sasuke's most underrated technique

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this is in my opinion Sasuke's most underrated technique

most people just write this technique in vs scenario's against naruto's clones because the would"just dodge it" or "it was only fodder zetsu".

I don't believe this to be the case at all. this techinque Is very useful for sasuke in any fight where sasuke can use ninjutsu.


I believe the main reason this technique is underrated is because of this scan


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this scan give the impression that he just shoots a one shot barrage like a shotgun blast. just a one shot burst effect. I think its more like machine gun fire.

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Notice in the original scan how the zetsu are sent flying. this means the magatama are traveling with a considerable amount of velocity.


similar to a mounted machine gun sasuke can just continuously fire a barrage of magatama at his opponent, and even follow them if they try to run( like naruto's clones would try to do)

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How this technique would work on naruto:

Now most would say naruto is mostly protected from this attack due to his BM cloak or his KCM cloak.


BM cloak: Now Im not suggesting this attack would end naruto, but it could potentially get naruto to remove his entire cloak.

when sasuke fire on BSM or BM naruto his cloak would be pelted with these his speed sticky flames. Now naruto cloak would take that damage fine; but how long before naruto entire cloak is cover by small amaterasu flames. naruto can just shed tiny patches of his cloak, and while trying to shed them he is an easy target for a stronger attack.


KCM: this form of naruto stands no chance of countering these magatama. naruto would most definitely dodge the initial barrage, but when sasuke allows him, the wide spread and rapid fire of this attack would make dodging futile. all sasuke would need to do is shoot in front of naruto. and he can't move at top speed forever. One hit and his body is engulfed in seconds. Same goes for form of naruto sage mode and below.


Clones: naruto's clones being weaker than naruto himself would prove no match for the wide spread and speed of this technique. naruto's clones wouldn't even get close to a hit on sasuke, and moving at top speed is only momentary.



Conclusion: the wide area this technique covers and the fact that it travels at a speed makes it like a machine gun and shotgun mixed. because it can do both simultaneously is what makes it this dangerous. Sasuke's ability to track foes with his sharingan and spin while using this technique would make it virtually impossible to dodge(barring ftg, or kamui). Once hit,the rapid succession with which one would be hit again couple with the unquenchable black flames makes this sasuke's most underrated technique
i think naruto is way to fast for this technique
remember raikage was able tot dodge it and naruto is faster then him so yeah point proven
 

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i think naruto is way to fast for this technique
remember raikage was able tot dodge it and naruto is faster then him so yeah point proven
the raikage dodged amaterasu, which spawns where the user is looking. This enton tech travels so the user can lead the opponent. Sasuke was able to follow juubito with his new eyes, KCM naruto wouldn't be a problem.

as for trolling sage, I never said it was a kill tech for BM naruto, but KCM is another story. And it could be useful for BM as well
 

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the raikage dodged amaterasu, which spawns where the user is looking. This enton tech travels so the user can lead the opponent. Sasuke was able to follow juubito with his new eyes, KCM naruto wouldn't be a problem.

as for trolling sage, I never said it was a kill tech for BM naruto, but KCM is another story. And it could be useful for BM as well
KCM can make Chakra arms as well
 

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but to block all these magatama wouldn't be possible

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not only that, naruto's visibility would decrease with continued pelting.

this isn't blocking shit
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He only needs to make the chakra arms big enough to cover his body. Once that's done, they'll act as a barrier between him and Sasuke.
 

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forcefully lifted from his feet, thanks for helping my point.
dude just because you get lifted from you feet doesn't mean it is fast just means it has a great enough force to push you from you feet
its like getting hit by the Wrecking ball it's not really that fast it just has enough force to throw you of your feet that's all
 

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IF it is bm naruto then he isn't dodging this because of his huge surface area.
Secondly if sasuke use this "machine gun" while running with his susano with legs, no version of naruto will be able to dodge it.

imo, Susano/Amaterasu arrows are much faster with good penetration.
i just don't see how sasuke will have enough chakra for it
 

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He only needs to make the chakra arms big enough to cover his body. Once that's done, they'll act as a barrier between him and Sasuke.
then the enton magatama would have still helped sasuke. Blinding naruto would make sasuke's next attack deadly.
dude just because you get lifted from you feet doesn't mean it is fast just means it has a great enough force to push you from you feet
its like getting hit by the Wrecking ball it's not really that fast it just has enough force to throw you of your feet that's all
How would being hit by fire forcefully throw you from your feet if its not traveling fast? its fire it has no mass.
i just don't see how sasuke will have enough chakra for it
Sasuke has been spamming the **** out of his MS techs in the last day of the war and still isn't tired. sasuke would accomplish ths easily
 

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then the enton magatama would have still helped sasuke. Blinding naruto would make sasuke's next attack deadly.

How would being hit by fire forcefully throw you from your feet if its not traveling fast? its fire it has no mass.


Sasuke has been spamming the **** out of his MS techs in the last day of the war and still isn't tired. sasuke would accomplish ths easily
It will blind Sasuke as well. But unlike Sasuke, Naruto doesn't rely on his eyes. He's a sensor.
 

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It will blind Sasuke as well. But unlike Sasuke, Naruto doesn't rely on his eyes. He's a sensor.
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how come naruto didn't sense this coming?

sasuke would know naruto's location because the flames landed on naruto. sasuke is free to move and attack naruto.
 

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naruto can initally avoid these magatama. the speed and spread of this attack, coupled with sasuke's own sharingan predictive capabilities, makes dodgin this attack for more than a few moments almost impossible
raikege ran out of sasuke's view and he couldnt see him so saying sasuke can keep up with someone who is faster then A without proof is . . .:|
 

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raikege ran out of sasuke's view and he couldnt see him so saying sasuke can keep up with someone who is faster then A without proof is . . .:|
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notice sasuke and naruto adjust. naruto due to his sensing and sasuke to his sharingan

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then theres this

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why would the mangekyo help his movement if it didn't augment his ability to track the movements of opponents?


the raikage also has considerably better control than naruto of his speed.

Not only that the raikage has better reactions than naruto due to the electricity effecting his synapses

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overall sasuke still manages to track naruto and hit him with the attack
 

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notice sasuke and naruto adjust. naruto due to his sensing and sasuke to his sharingan

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then theres this

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why would the mangekyo help his movement if it didn't augment his ability to track the movements of opponents?


the raikage also has considerably better control than naruto of his speed.

Not only that the raikage has better reactions than naruto due to the electricity effecting his synapses

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overall sasuke still manages to track naruto and hit him with the attack
raikage has better reaction time? naruto reacted to the raikages strongest hit at point blank range proving that he is faster then the raikage and has excellent reaction time(A already said he was faster so no debate there).

and your showing that naruto and sasuke both adjusted to a faster opponent so that automatically = sasuke can keep up with a faster then himself, naruto, and amateratsu(to lazy to correct spelling) him? while naruto is now used to faster opponents it would be easier to deal with slower openonts and attacks. You have to consider both sides.

And that "machine gun" was only because he saw the white zetsu's if he loses track of naruto for a second(like he did with raikage, not saying he isnt better at predicting and reading but just a good example) he wouldnt be able to shoot amateratsu at him since he didnt see him
 

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raikage has better reaction time? naruto reacted to the raikages strongest hit at point blank range proving that he is faster then the raikage and has excellent reaction time(A already said he was faster so no debate there).

and your showing that naruto and sasuke both adjusted to a faster opponent so that automatically = sasuke can keep up with a faster then himself, naruto, and amateratsu(to lazy to correct spelling) him? while naruto is now used to faster opponents it would be easier to deal with slower openonts and attacks. You have to consider both sides.

And that "machine gun" was only because he saw the white zetsu's if he loses track of naruto for a second(like he did with raikage, not saying he isnt better at predicting and reading but just a good example) he wouldnt be able to shoot amateratsu at him since he didnt see him
yes the raikage has better reactions to naruto. Naruto in KCM has nothing augmenting his reaction time.

you assert that naruto reacted to the raikage? why did the raikage say " im coming naruto"? tat eliminated all need for reaction, and was pure timing.

sasuke isn't going to amaterasu him, he is going to lead himwith an enton barrage. If you don't understand the difference between enton and amaterasu then Im done with you. come back with more knowledge

your assertion that naruto can react to slower attack easier is funny. it was BSM naruto that reacted to juubito. the large kyuubi avatar overall lacks the speed to avoid the enton magatama. As for KCM, naruto's fight with obito wouldn't improve his ability at all without the bijuu mode sensing.

that machine gun affect was because he wanted to...

notice makes more magatama than there are zetsu

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you have no evidence to suggest naruto can move fast enough to lose EMS sasuke.

you want proof KCM naruto lacks reactions

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yes the raikage has better reactions to naruto. Naruto in KCM has nothing augmenting his reaction time.

you assert that naruto reacted to the raikage? why did the raikage say " im coming naruto"? tat eliminated all need for reaction, and was pure timing.

sasuke isn't going to amaterasu him, he is going to lead himwith an enton barrage. If you don't understand the difference between enton and amaterasu then Im done with you. come back with more knowledge

your assertion that naruto can react to slower attack easier is funny. it was BSM naruto that reacted to juubito. the large kyuubi avatar overall lacks the speed to avoid the enton magatama. As for KCM, naruto's fight with obito wouldn't improve his ability at all without the bijuu mode sensing.

that machine gun affect was because he wanted to...

notice makes more magatama than there are zetsu

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you have no evidence to suggest naruto can move fast enough to lose EMS sasuke.

you want proof KCM naruto lacks reactions

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Naruto doesn't lack reaction. The reason he got hit there was because he developed tunnel vision. He was so focused on attacking Roshi and destorying the chakra rod that had been implanted in his body that he completely ignored his surrounds. I came to that conclusion by looking at scene prior to Naruto getting hit. That's the important scene you overlooked.


 

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Naruto doesn't lack reaction. The reason he got hit there was because he developed tunnel vision. He was so focused on attacking Roshi and destorying the chakra rod that had been implanted in his body that he completely ignored his surrounds. I came to that conclusion by looking at scene prior to Naruto getting hit. That's the important scene you overlooked.


show me a KCM naruto reaction feat then... he has nothing augmenting his reactions so hes just like base naruto as far as reactions go
 
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