Sasuke vs Minato The never ending debate [Solved]

[KidGamer65]

No, I was simply saying if one was restricted from the user, the other person would solo, and vice versa. You do realize without FTG Minato is still the fastest... Right? :|

No, Naruto is.

 

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No, Naruto is.

Oh dear, I meant in his time. I should have clarified. *_*

 

[KidGamer65]

Oh dear, I meant in his time. I should have clarified. *_*

Oh, then that would be Ay. Minato only surpasses his speed with FTG.

 

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Oh, then that would be Ay. Minato only surpasses his speed with FTG.

Ahhh, can't be to certain with that. There's no manga proof to back up your claim, as Obito says his, "Yellow Flash moniker" comes from his base speed. IMO Minato was showing off when A tried to punch him.

 

[KidGamer65]

Ahhh, can't be to certain with that. There's no manga proof to back up your claim, as Obito says his, "Yellow Flash moniker" comes from his base speed. IMO Minato was showing off when A tried to punch him.

Yellow Flash means he's fast, not the fastest. No, its pretty much outright shown that Minato needed FTG in order to escape Ay's full speed.

 

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Yellow Flash means he's fast, not the fastest. No, its pretty much outright shown that Minato needed FTG in order to escape Ay's full speed.

Nah man...

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Minato's throws are faster than A is... :|

He threw the kunai out, and then FTG'd over to it. He could have easily done shunshin... He was just showing off. :|

 

[KidGamer65]

Nah man...

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Minato's throws are faster than A is... :|

He threw the kunai out, and then FTG'd over to it. He could have easily done shunshin... He was just showing off. :|

lol what? Minato didn't throw the Kunai faster than A can move. He threw it above his head is all. Nor does that prove he could have Shunshin'd out of the way even if you were right about him throwing faster than A.

He used FTG because he had to.

 

[Sygris]

lol what? Minato didn't throw the Kunai faster than A can move. He threw it above his head is all. Nor does that prove he could have Shunshin'd out of the way even if you were right about him throwing faster than A.

He used FTG because he had to.

what "Inanimated" means is that minato kunai throwing speed >> Ay full speed. take another look at the pic and Ays position.

 

[KidGamer65]

what "Inanimated" means is that minato kunai throwing speed >>ay full speed.

Our discussion about who is faster, as in foot speed. Hence him mentioning Minato's nickname that he got for his footspeed, not his throwing speed.

 

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lol what? Minato didn't throw the Kunai faster than A can move. He threw it above his head is all. Nor does that prove he could have Shunshin'd out of the way even if you were right about him throwing faster than A.

He used FTG because he had to.

If he had the time to throw kunai's why couldn't he shunshin? He caught Naruto before he even fell an inch, but couldn't even shunshin out the way of A at like 5 inches away? I think you're missing the part where he has to take them out his back pocket, then throw them, all. While A is coming at him full speed. That's just unnecessary. That's taunting on the level of Kakashi reading Make Out Paradise while fighting team 7. :|

 

[KidGamer65]

If he had the time to throw kunai's why couldn't he shunshin? He caught Naruto before he even fell an inch, but couldn't even shunshin out the way of A at like 5 inches away? I think you're missing the part where he has to take them out his back pocket, then throw them, all. While A is coming at him full speed. That's just unnecessary. That's taunting on the level of Kakashi reading Make Out Paradise while fighting team 7. :|

He had that Kunai in his hand before A charged at him, and again. Throwing speed=/=Foot Speed. All you're proving is that Minato can throw a Kunai when A is coming at him, you aren't proving that Minato is faster than him on foot, when Minato needed FTG to evade him. The look on Minato's face says it all.

 

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He had that Kunai in his hand before A charged at him, and again. Throwing speed=/=Foot Speed. All you're proving is that Minato can throw a Kunai when A is coming at him, you aren't proving that Minato is faster than him on foot, when Minato needed FTG to evade him. The look on Minato's face says it all.

My point is, Minato had the time to throw a handful of kunai's(Out his pocket, when he was there, he only had 1 in his hand), but you say he couldn't have used shunshin to evade. He saved his son before he fell an inch on base speed. He was half a room away. Now you're saying Minato can't shunshin out the way of A about a foot to the left or right, yet has the time to throw kunai all the way up a tree...KidGamer are you trolling? :|

 

[KidGamer65]

My point is, Minato had the time to throw a handful of kunai's(Out his pocket, when he was there, he only had 1 in his hand), but you say he couldn't have used shunshin to evade. He saved his son before he fell an inch on base speed. He was half a room away. Now you're saying Minato can't shunshin out the way of A about a foot to the left or right, yet has the time to throw kunai all the way up a tree...KidGamer are you trolling? :|

I should be asking you if you're trolling. Mainly cause you think being able to flick a Kunai upwards before A hits him=him being fast enough to evade Ay via Shunshin. He isn't dodging cause he isn't fast enough, hence him having to use FTG to evade Ay. Hence the look on his face when Ay is about to hit him.

He threw those Kunai BEFORE Ay charged at him. Are you even reading the same manga?

 

[Dantee]

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Nah man...

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Minato's throws are faster than A is... :|

He threw the kunai out, and then FTG'd over to it. He could have easily done shunshin... He was just showing off. :|

Stop making things up. That kunai behind the raikage was for this.... He threw this kunai after he dodged the raikages initial hit.

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Minato threw the kunais before the raikage even started charging at him. Thats how he dodged.

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I should be asking you if you're trolling. Mainly cause you think being able to flick a Kunai upwards before A hits him=him being fast enough to evade Ay via Shunshin. He isn't dodging cause he isn't fast enough, hence him having to use FTG to evade Ay. Hence the look on his face when Ay is about to hit him.

He threw those Kunai BEFORE Ay charged at him. Are you even reading the same manga?

What look on his face? He knew he was going to escape, he had the same expression when he was charging him, it only changed when he landed on the tree. Meaning he as about to engage, which he did. So you mean Minato can Shunshin through a room at full speed to save his son before he falls an inch, yet can't move out the way of A...? He clearly saw the guy charging at him as his expression didn't even change till he landed on the tree. He waited till the last second, as shown by kishi, to put emphasis on his speed. I don't think you understand the feat Minato achieved here. Minato's body went from a still state to an active state faster than Ay's body, in an active state, went about an inch in distance. That was FTG. Base speed he did exactly the same thing when he caught Naruto. He went from a still state to an active state faster than Naruto could fall about an inch. To put this into even more perspective, A didn't slow down at all. He thought he hit him until he was gone, same as Obito. I think the problem is Minato's base speed is heavily down sized on this forum. It can be said based on the above that Minato's base speed = FTG v1. FTG v1 is used more often, however, due to convenience and preference. U_U

 

[Sygris]

minato catching baby naruto with base speed feat, should allow him to dodge Ays attack.
the reason why he didn't use base speed is quite simple, plot. using ftg to dodge an attack is more badass than using base speed, and if base speed allows him to do that, what do you think he'll be capable with shunshin? only theoretically though.

 

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minato catching baby naruto with base speed feat, should allow him to dodge Ays attack.
the reason why he didn't use base speed is quite simple, plot. using ftg to dodge an attack is more badass than using base speed, and if base speed allows him to do that, what do you think he'll be capable with shunshin? only theoretically though.

Exactly... Kishi made him wait until the last second to showcase FTG. How fun would it be to see the fastest ninja dodge using a jutsu a genin can do?

 

[Gakido]

time to react? ftg is instant. susanoo is gone, the instant it gets touched by minato or his KB.

The act of FTG is instant. Minato using FTG is not.

That's why I said he ports to Susanoo first.

Thats why Sasuke wont get blitzed. Sasuke's Shunshin is on par with Minato's. The only reason Minato was considered the "Fastest Alive" was because of FTG.

FTG is instant, whether it is you who teleports or you who is teleporting something. Minato ported the Kyuubi without a hand seal, instantly.

Proof? Or is that some more offscreen bull that Minato fans try to use.

If memory serves me right, that was the only instance Minato used shunshin ( normal shunshin ) against Obito and he covered a rather impressive distance within miliseconds ( gravitational acceleration, yadda yadda ).

And Sasuke's feats of speed are much more impressive.

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[Sygris]

The act of FTG is instant. Minato using FTG is not.

yes it is. the minato vs Ay fight proofs this.

 

[Gakido]

yes it is. the minato vs Ay part proofs this.

Ay isn't instant. So it proves nothing.