Sasuke vs Minato The never ending debate [Solved]

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i really don't see sasuke win this after minato got KB. that's right, why is everyone ignoring minatos KB?

alive minato should be capable of 5 KB. 5 KB = 5 minato. 5 minato > sasuke.
the weakness of KB are their low durability, but how are you going to hurt KBs if they have a fast base speed, shunshin and even ftg? add to that, that every KB carries hiraishin marks on their kunai, allowing minato and the KB to teleport to each other, it's impossible for sasuke to get a hit.

genjutsu doesn't work on KB. GG!



susanoo is a physical object and can therefore be warped away. the manga also proved that susanoo can be apart from its user. it's true that the user can resummon susanoo, but the time it would take to do that, would be enough for minato to kill the user.
Only Madara showed this feat not Sasuke... Im almost positive Susanoo can not be Ftg away and he'll need physical contact to ftg Susanoo away and how will that be possible if it's coverd in Blaze Release?
 

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Im going to go with Sasuke i seriously doubt Minato could ftg there Susanoo off of them... If he could why wouldn't they just bring it back... Minato has no counter for Genjutsu and his Summoning will get controlled...

So... He has no defence against Genjutsu? Really? Show me the panel that even implies this plz. He broke Obito's hold over Kyuubi easy enough and Obito didnt even bother with genjutsu at all so Im not convinced.

I say Minato because if he gets in early its over with and we still have yet to see some of his skills. We only JUST found out about his ability to spark up like Naruto now does.

Susanoo wont go up fast enough and Sasuke himself isnt fast enough. He got his power up already too... Naruto's rasengan.
 

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of course he would mark him ... logically it be the first he do
a person can cleary be removed from there susanoo as shown in naruto b and itachi vs nagato
susanoo is just a wall of chakra

He was removed from his Susanoo in the Anime not Manga... The user has imunity from inside the Susanoo Sasuke threw kunai at Danzo through Susanoo but Danzo kunai didn't just go threw Susanoo...
 

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So... He has no defence against Genjutsu? Really? Show me the panel that even implies this plz. He broke Obito's hold over Kyuubi easy enough and Obito didnt even bother with genjutsu at all so Im not convinced.

I say Minato because if he gets in early its over with and we still have yet to see some of his skills. We only JUST found out about his ability to spark up like Naruto now does.

Susanoo wont go up fast enough and Sasuke himself isnt fast enough. He got his power up already too... Naruto's rasengan.
He released the Kyuubi from the contract seal and how will he release himself from Genjutsu? Minato running speed isn't fast enough to catch Sasuke b4 he used Susanoo...

Actually A running speed is faster than Minato's in v1 mode...

Excuse the double posting...
 

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Only Madara showed this feat not Sasuke... Im almost positive Susanoo can not be Ftg away and he'll need physical contact to ftg Susanoo away and how will that be possible if it's coverd in Blaze Release?

actually it was madara and itachi.

there is no need for direct contact to ftg stuff away.
minato ftg'd himself and the kyuubi to a mark, while he was standing on top of gamabunta.
 

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He released the Kyuubi from the contract seal and how will he release himself from Genjutsu? Minato running speed isn't fast enough to catch Sasuke b4 he used Susanoo...

Actually A running speed is faster than Minato's in v1 mode...

Excuse the double posting...

This makes no sense.

First, he has to get caught in genjutsu to have to break out.
second, why would he run at him at all when he can fly instantly via kuni.

You're conveniently ignoring his fighting style to suit your argument. So its obvious youve lost this one.
 

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Nah, Minato beats him fair and square.
 

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actually it was madara and itachi.

there is no need for direct contact to ftg stuff away.
minato ftg'd himself and the kyuubi to a mark, while he was standing on top of gamabunta.
He was on top of Gamabunta and which was on the 9tails there goes ur contact. But i agree Minato can defeat Sasuke if thats what you want to hear...
This makes no sense.

First, he has to get caught in genjutsu to have to break out.
second, why would he run at him at all when he can fly instantly via kuni.

You're conveniently ignoring his fighting style to suit your argument. So its obvious youve lost this one.
Wait Minato can fly.???
 

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Minato has demonstrated multiple times that he can teleport into a radius around a marked kunai not only directly above one. This means that he doesn't actually have to physically mark sasuke to get into susanoo since he controls where he appears within the radius.

Add in the fact that he now has shadow clones it pretty much seals the deal for sasuke. It's very plausible that minato can use 2-3 clones which all have marked kunai to distribute. If its done right minato could actually hide the fact he made a clone, instead just appearing as though he is in to places at once with his speed.

Also clones aren't affected by genjutsu. So clone feints will work just as kakashi used on itachi. Minato is to fast for Enton or amaterasu and as I explained earlier minato can actually get inside susanoo. Minato takes this and I didn't even mention KM.

P.s. the argument that someone has no counter for genjutsu because they have never been caught and broken one in-canon is stupid. Someone of Kage level wouldn't have such a glaring weakness, if genin naruto and Sakura has counters minato does. Besides minato developed rasengan which requires the highest degree of chakra control.
 

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He was on top of Gamabunta and which was on the 9tails there goes ur contact. But i agree Minato can defeat Sasuke if thats what you want to hear...

Wait Minato can fly.???

Splitting hairs... YES the KUNI is moving he ports to it... FLY! YAY!!! This is over.

Technically if he continues to throw them up and ports and throws and ports and throws ect ect. Hes pretty much flying... like a thunder god. 0.0
 
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Splitting hairs... YES the KUNI is moving he ports to it... FLY! YAY!!! This is over.

Technically if he continues to throw them up and ports and throws and ports and throws ect ect. Hes pretty much flying... like a thunder god. 0.0

yes, minato could theoretically fly like that. would be easiest by doing this with two kunais. (one in each hand)
 

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Minato has demonstrated multiple times that he can teleport into a radius around a marked kunai not only directly above one. This means that he doesn't actually have to physically mark sasuke to get into susanoo since he controls where he appears within the radius.

Add in the fact that he now has shadow clones it pretty much seals the deal for sasuke. It's very plausible that minato can use 2-3 clones which all have marked kunai to distribute. If its done right minato could actually hide the fact he made a clone, instead just appearing as though he is in to places at once with his speed.

Also clones aren't affected by genjutsu. So clone feints will work just as kakashi used on itachi. Minato is to fast for Enton or amaterasu and as I explained earlier minato can actually get inside susanoo. Minato takes this and I didn't even mention KM.

P.s. the argument that someone has no counter for genjutsu because they have never been caught and broken one in-canon is stupid. Someone of Kage level wouldn't have such a glaring weakness, if genin naruto and Sakura has counters minato does. Besides minato developed rasengan which requires the highest degree of chakra control.
^^^^^ more logic that will be ignored
 

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^^^^^ more logic that will be ignored

by logic, minato stomps both in edo and alive. sadly, the fanboys are pretty good when it comes to denying the manga.
 

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Minato could just teleport all amaterasu and susanoo arows away? :c
 

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Off topic but... At what point did Minato mark the TBB he ported to the ocean?
 

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Minato could just teleport all amaterasu and susanoo arows away? :c

yes he could.
sasuke shoots arrow, minato throws kunai towards sasuke, minato uses s/t barrier and sends the arrow to the kunai mark of the kunai he threw towards sasuke. GG.
 
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Off topic but... At what point did Minato mark the TBB he ported to the ocean?
minato used s/t barrier.
s/t barrier allows minato to absorb a jutsu like the tbb and send it to one of his markings.

EDIT. sry for double post.
 
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Honestly I don't really care for this debateZzz
 
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