[Spoilers] Sasuke relegated himself to the level of decoy

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It holds just as much ground as the cement in it. Hashi came out "on top" because Madara wanted him to, he wanted him to try and kill him, that was already established, so what you said is null and void. And naruto mad? That's nothing, every time he got mad against Sasuke, he put him in his place sadly.

From part 1, to beginning of part 2, to after the kage summit. It would be no different now.

It obviously looks like you don't know what holding ground means. Your argument is based on the speculation that could supposedly help its credibility in your point of view. The problem with that is that your point of view is biased. Madara wanted him to come on top? That's nonsense since he's his rival and was struggling to be better than him since he met him. What I said isn't null and void, what I said were facts as opposed to your wishful thinking. Last couple of sentences clearly show you leaning to Sasuke's side which makes you subjective and illogical.
 

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It obviously looks like you don't know what holding ground means. Your argument is based on the speculation that could supposedly help its credibility in your point of view. The problem with that is that your point of view is biased. Madara wanted him to come on top? That's nonsense since he's his rival and was struggling to be better than him since he met him. What I said isn't null and void, what I said were facts as opposed to your wishful thinking. Last couple of sentences clearly show you leaning to Sasuke's side which makes you subjective and illogical.


It's not speculation, it's a fact. Madara set it up for Hashi to try and kill him, so get your facts straight there first of all. Second of all, Madara and Hashi were never rivals until their surnames were revealed, but still remained friends. Madara never wanted to be better than Hashi because in his own way he already was. Madara and Hashi were virtually even, it took all of what Hashi had to exhaust Madara and himself included, and then he attempted to trick madara with a wood clone to try and kill him like madara planned, so I suggest you get your facts straight there.

And of course, anyone leaning towards Sasuke's side is TOTALLY subjective and illogical, meanwhile anyone leaning towards Narutos side is TOTALLY objective and logical! Dumb ass.
 

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It's not speculation, it's a fact. Madara set it up for Hashi to try and kill him, so get your facts straight there first of all. Second of all, Madara and Hashi were never rivals until their surnames were revealed, but still remained friends. Madara never wanted to be better than Hashi because in his own way he already was. Madara and Hashi were virtually even, it took all of what Hashi had to exhaust Madara and himself included, and then he attempted to trick madara with a wood clone to try and kill him like madara planned, so I suggest you get your facts straight there.

And of course, anyone leaning towards Sasuke's side is TOTALLY subjective and illogical, meanwhile anyone leaning towards Narutos side is TOTALLY objective and logical! Dumb ass.

nowhere in the manga did it ever stated that madara set that fight up so that hashi would win, nowhere. so your argument is not fact. unless you find a page where it says so then go ahead, post it here.

Madara and hashi was rivals the moments they started to trow that rock across the river competing to see who was better.

Madara admitted that hashirama was stronger than him

Again madara did not plan on being defeated by a wood clone, nowhere in the manga did it states that. you need to get your facts straight.

It's not that we think sasuke fans are subjective and illogical it's mostly becuase they resemble people like you, who mostly post there opinions as if they are facts so that you make it seems one character is above the other.
 

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nowhere in the manga did it ever stated that madara set that fight up so that hashi would win, nowhere. so your argument is not fact. unless you find a page where it says so then go ahead, post it here.

I don't need to find a page where it says it to a t, because if you have any kind of comprehension skills, you would have realized Madara's plan all along was resurrection, and in order to do that, he would have had to steal Hashi's cells, fake his death (which is why he pre-programmed the jutsu to activate after he went cold), and to continue his work unnoticed.

Madara and hashi was rivals the moments they started to trow that rock across the river competing to see who was better.

Madara admitted that hashirama was stronger than him

Madara was taunting Hashi in front of the kages, we saw who was indeed stronger when Hashi could not bust through him to help the other kages, and when madara made him into his *****.

Again madara did not plan on being defeated by a wood clone, nowhere in the manga did it states that. you need to get your facts straight.

Again, if you have any kind of comprehension skills I did not say he planned to be beaten by a wood clone, I said that Hashi attempted to trick him with a wood clone and tried to kill him like Madara planned (trying to kill him)

It's not that we think sasuke fans are subjective and illogical it's mostly becuase they resemble people like you, who mostly post there opinions as if they are facts so that you make it seems one character is above the other.

You shouldn't talk about you and the other narutards that way, we see how you dumb asses act all the time, so there is no need for you to further clarify.

Now go wank off to naruto or something, you're being a pest.
 

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I don't need to find a page where it says it to a t, because if you have any kind of comprehension skills, you would have realized Madara's plan all along was resurrection, and in order to do that, he would have had to steal Hashi's cells, fake his death (which is why he pre-programmed the jutsu to activate after he went cold), and to continue his work unnoticed.



Madara was taunting Hashi in front of the kages, we saw who was indeed stronger when Hashi could not bust through him to help the other kages, and when madara made him into his *****.



Again, if you have any kind of comprehension skills I did not say he planned to be beaten by a wood clone, I said that Hashi attempted to trick him with a wood clone and tried to kill him like Madara planned (trying to kill him)



You shouldn't talk about you and the other narutards that way, we see how you dumb asses act all the time, so there is no need for you to further clarify.

Now go wank off to naruto or something, you're being a pest.

Yeah, i tried to give you the benefit of the doubt but you have fallen down the rabbit whole.
 

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Yeah, i tried to give you the benefit of the doubt but you have fallen down the rabbit whole.

Don't speak unless you clarify what you are attempting to project, because I don't recall you and I giving each other a benefit of the doubt thing.
 

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Don't speak unless you clarify what you are attempting to project, because I don't recall you and I giving each other a benefit of the doubt thing.

I've already stated that your a suspect Naruto hater.

I don't need to find a page where it says it to a t, because if you have any kind of comprehension skills, you would have realized Madara's plan all along was resurrection, and in order to do that, he would have had to steal Hashi's cells, fake his death (which is why he pre-programmed the jutsu to activate after he went cold), and to continue his work unnoticed.

This statement is so disrespectful to Madara. So your basically stating that Madara knew that he couldn't defeat Hashi and his plan was to take "the lose". I interpreted the scenario much differently, he had every intention of killing Hashi and believed the nine-tails he could - Plan "A". Kill Hashi, take his cells, then kill his brother, rule the ninja world, do what i want. Plan "B" just in case this thing goes south I'll bite Hashi early to obtain his DNA and resurrect myself later.

P.S. As a Madara fan don't down play his chara in a blind Naruto bash.
 

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I've already stated that your a suspect Naruto hater.



This statement is so disrespectful to Madara. So your basically stating that Madara knew that he couldn't defeat Hashi and his plan was to take "the lose". I interpreted the scenario much differently, he had every intention of killing Hashi and believed the nine-tails he could - Plan "A". Kill Hashi, take his cells, then kill his brother, rule the ninja world, do what i want. Plan "B" just in case this thing goes south I'll bite Hashi early to obtain his DNA and resurrect myself later.

P.S. As a Madara fan don't down play his chara in a blind Naruto bash.

If I were a Naruto hater I would be bashing him left and right with Sasuke > Naruto like a lot of people on here do, but I have not, so you have absolutely no warrant at all to label me a Naruto hater just because I am explaining to morons that Naruto is not a God and such.

As for the Madara thing: No, I am saying that his intents was to get his cells and fake his death so he can go about his plans unnoticed. There was only one reason he had that sharingan pre-programmed to activate that jutsu after he went cold, and that is to fake his death. His entire goal was resurrection as he told Tobirama after he handed his ass to him. I suppose it is up for interpretation in a sense, but I believe what I said is a fair interpretation of Madara's intents given what his goals were and such.

PS: My Naruto bash is in retaliation to the sudden spark of Sasuke bashing going on on this forum because a bunch of idiots believe Naruto is a God now and all that bs, it's just as bad as when idiots just like these idiots (some are still here) from 2011-2012 were POSITIVE that Itachi was more powerful than Nagato (not Pein) and could beat him "simply" with the yata mirror. That is exactly what this garbage of Naruto >>> Sasuke resembles.
 

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I feel you adeshina.

You're one of the very few Sasuke fans that I respect. So it probably sucks for you.
 
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