[Spoilers] Sasuke relegated himself to the level of decoy

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Without Sasuke, Naruto would have been caught in the IT, without Sasuke, Naruto would have been killed multiple times by Madara, Obito, and Kag. Without Sasuke, Naruto could have never saved the beasts and obito would have never been defeated. I could go on for days, but if you're not incompetent, you should get the picture.

It's odd how you use a one sided argument to press the point that Sasuke and Naruto are equal. Not one time did you mention one thing that Naruto did for Sasuke. This is what makes you look like a fanboy, nerd raging, or just straight up Naruto hater.
 

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It's odd how you use a one sided argument to press the point that Sasuke and Naruto are equal. Not one time did you mention one thing that Naruto did for Sasuke. This is what makes you look like a fanboy, nerd raging, or just straight up Naruto hater.

I can see why you say that with the post of mine you quoted, but I have always said that they need each other and cannot defeat kag alone. I was emphasizing all Sasuke did for Naruto here because of all the perpetually stupid crap being thrown around by fanboys and stupid people, about Naruto soloing Sasuke.

But in all honesty, Sasuke has saved Naruto a hell of a lot more times than Naruto saved him, but Naruto did do good with giving Sasuke Kurama's chakra to increase his power and endurance to fight and such and the flying technique to save Sasuke and Kakashi from potentially burning to death. That's honestly among the only few things Naruto himself has done for Sasuke in this entire war.
 

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Clearly Sasuke realizes now they need to work together.
Sasuke is no fool, he knows who is better suited to attack, and he knows that he's needed.
In my opinion I honestly think Sasuke knows of no way to stand to Kaguya without Naruto's assistance, yet he knows he nor Naruto like Solo King Itachi can solo Kaguya so he's basically doing what he thinks would be more productive.


But knowing Sasuke there's a good chance he's fooling Naruto and Kaguya to think he's a decoy, only to later catch Kaguya off guard.
 

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Clearly Sasuke realizes now they need to work together.
Sasuke is no fool, he knows who is better suited to attack, and he knows that he's needed.
In my opinion I honestly think Sasuke knows of no way to stand to Kaguya without Naruto's assistance, yet he knows he nor Naruto like Solo King Itachi can solo Kaguya so he's basically doing what he thinks would be more productive.


But knowing Sasuke there's a good chance he's fooling Naruto and Kaguya to think he's a decoy, only to later catch Kaguya off guard.

I agree for the most part. Sasuke served as the distraction, which allowed Naruto to get his attack in, despite induced by anger and sadness, still very effective. Also, Sasuke repelled Kag with his perfect Susanoo, and that Susanoo is even more advanced than before, so his powers are starting to evolve again, which is showing through the battle, last time he got dropped in a different dimension he was screwed, but this time he has somehow kept himself sustained with Susanoos' cloak and returned to the dimension naruto was in.

So Sasuke definitely has a plan, but like before, he's letting Naruto take the initiative so he can plan his next move carefully.
 

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There never was a fight until now lol. Naruto was never stronger than Sasuke, after the kage summit naruto admitted he could not defeat sasuke at his current level, and that was only when sasuke had the mangekyo. It's simple logic over fanboy way of thinking.

Except that you're ignoring Naruto's modesty, not to mention the sweet irony of you talking about fanboyism.
 

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Except that you're ignoring Naruto's modesty, not to mention the sweet irony of you talking about fanboyism.

Naruto has never been modest when it came to Sasuke. He always wanted to be better than him, besides, when he was talking with Rikudo, the flashback to the very incident I speak of happens in where he tells everyone he cannot defeat Sasuke, and that "something is inside him" which shows Indra.

So no, Naruto was telling the truth, and nothing but the truth.

Anyways, I am not a Sasuke fanboy, I don't know how many times I am gonna have to say this, but my favorite character is Itachi.
 

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Naruto has never been modest when it came to Sasuke. He always wanted to be better than him, besides, when he was talking with Rikudo, the flashback to the very incident I speak of happens in where he tells everyone he cannot defeat Sasuke, and that "something is inside him" which shows Indra.

So no, Naruto was telling the truth, and nothing but the truth.

Anyways, I am not a Sasuke fanboy, I don't know how many times I am gonna have to say this, but my favorite character is Itachi.

Naruto has always been modest in almost everything. He's selfless, it's in his character. While we're talking about his character, if we go back in past and review his achievements despite lack of knowledge about his true abilities, we'll get right back to modesty. Your argument doesn't hold any ground because what Naruto said can't be taken literally because of aforementioned analysis.

That's completely wrong. Not to mention seeing his and Sasuke's abilities thus far which are self-explanatory.

I don't know if you are, but you look like one. Nice, Itachi is also my favorite character but that doesn't mean I won't be objective when he gets a spotlight in a debate.
 

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Naruto has always been modest in almost everything. He's selfless, it's in his character. While we're talking about his character, if we go back in past and review his achievements despite lack of knowledge about his true abilities, we'll get right back to modesty. Your argument doesn't hold any ground because what Naruto said can't be taken literally because of aforementioned analysis.

That's completely wrong. Not to mention seeing his and Sasuke's abilities thus far which are self-explanatory.

I don't know if you are, but you look like one. Nice, Itachi is also my favorite character but that doesn't mean I won't be objective when he gets a spotlight in a debate.

Again, wrong. Naruto knew that if they ever fought again that they would die. He was not making any of that up when he told Sasuke that, in which Sasuke already knew, and everyone else. Do you understand what that means? That means that they both would kill each other in the end, so it's already been concluded long ago of naruto and sasukes comparisons, they are equals.

And I am like this with any character that gets downplayed by ignorant people or fanboys, it's not wise to judge a book by its cover, however I am not up for the stupid Itachi > Nagato (not Pein) debate, because that was the stupidest thing that was ever said on here back in 2011-2012.

Even stupider than these dumb Naruto > Sasuke and Sasuke > Naruto threads everywhere.
 

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Again, wrong. Naruto knew that if they ever fought again that they would die. He was not making any of that up when he told Sasuke that, in which Sasuke already knew, and everyone else. Do you understand what that means? That means that they both would kill each other in the end, so it's already been concluded long ago of naruto and sasukes comparisons, they are equals.

And I am like this with any character that gets downplayed by ignorant people or fanboys, it's not wise to judge a book by its cover, however I am not up for the stupid Itachi > Nagato (not Pein) debate, because that was the stupidest thing that was ever said on here back in 2011-2012.

Even stupider than these dumb Naruto > Sasuke and Sasuke > Naruto threads everywhere.

They should be equals in a manner of speaking but Ashura and his reincarnations have always been proven to be stronger. So no, I'm not wrong.

He's not being downplayed. He's a main character next to Naruto so it looks like he's being downplayed when he pales in comparison. But it's not really hate or downplaying.

They are indeed dumb.
 

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This thread has become a soap opera between some ladies (and yes I use ladies couse using b*tches is apparently offensive) with nothing better to do. Fyi Sasuke only said what he did to get Naruto off the ground. He again showed he can be a complete uncaring **** (Obito dying? meh big deal, leave the trash to die). And I only think that he said "decoy" after he failed to hit Kaguya (yet again).

Feel free to rant some more.I bet kishi draws inspiration from this.
 

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They should be equals in a manner of speaking but Ashura and his reincarnations have always been proven to be stronger. So no, I'm not wrong.

He's not being downplayed. He's a main character next to Naruto so it looks like he's being downplayed when he pales in comparison. But it's not really hate or downplaying.

They are indeed dumb.

That's not true, Hashi was barely stronger than Madara in sage mode, so that hardly counts. So yes, you are wrong, Naruto would have been killed if it were not for Sasuke and he would have also been trapped in the IT if not for Sasuke, so naruto needs sasuke as much as sasuke needs him. Accept it and move on, facts are facts.

And I only think that he said "decoy" after he failed to hit Kaguya (yet again).



Sasuke took advantage and attacked kag while everyone had their guard down, and kaguya had to shift dimensions to avoid Sasuke's Chidori, then concluded he would be the decoy not only to give naruto an opportunity, but also for him to further analyze her and look for any kind of weakness to exploit and such. While she was engaged with Sasuke, Naruto took the opportunity to blitz her with a chakra claw, cool but not very impressive.
 
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That's not true, Hashi was barely stronger than Madara in sage mode, so that hardly counts. So yes, you are wrong, Naruto would have been killed if it were not for Sasuke and he would have also been trapped in the IT if not for Sasuke, so naruto needs sasuke as much as sasuke needs him. Accept it and move on, facts are facts.

How am I wrong if you just said that he was stronger, even if barely? Even mentioning the word fact. Don't contradict yourself. You were the one who talked about logic so don't go and lose all your credibility.
 

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Sasuke is becoming less arrogant and is starting to use teamwork. He's becoming more likable to me. But don't worry he will get his moment.

Yes. I agree. I have never liked him, but I'm finalllllllllly starting to see him cooperate and actually try to see the bigger picture here. He's realizing Naruto isn't just a clown...and that the world is worthless without the people in it.
 

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Not really
he is putting pride aside unlike fanboyz

Sasuke is just putting aside his pride and is showing his willingness to work with Naruto fanboys/fangirls, so relax, Naruto is not above Sasuke, sorry if you misunderstood cooperation for more power.

Exactly. Sasuke knows perfectly this is not the time to be a ****. Sasuke has always been one who will do anything in order to achieve his goals, even serve as decoy.
 

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He actively realizes his own power is below that of Naruto's.
 

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Think he knows he isn't in naruto or kaguyas league, but he needs to stick around to seal her once narutos won.. Sasuke can't touch her, he probably realises naruto is out of his reach now, especially when naruto ripped off her arm
 

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How am I wrong if you just said that he was stronger, even if barely? Even mentioning the word fact. Don't contradict yourself. You were the one who talked about logic so don't go and lose all your credibility.

Because back in those times, it was all war and BZ manipulated Madara into going A-wall via the tablet. It's not like with Sasuke, who has tapped into his true potential, Madara went rouge and pushed Hashi to try and kill him in order to get his cells and to make him believe he is dead to move forward with his plan. Naruto and Sasuke obtained their spiritual powers, Madara at that time did not, nor did Hashi, so that is how it is different.

Exactly. Sasuke knows perfectly this is not the time to be a ****. Sasuke has always been one who will do anything in order to achieve his goals, even serve as decoy.

Correct. And not only that, Sasuke stated in the very beginning and when he had naruto and the others in his perfect susanoo, that if either one of them dies it means the end of the world. So Sasuke knows he cannot defeat the enemy alone just as naruto knows.

He actively realizes his own power is below that of Naruto's.

He actually realizes teamwork is better than solo work, a major difference.

Think he knows he isn't in naruto or kaguyas league, but he needs to stick around to seal her once narutos won.. Sasuke can't touch her, he probably realises naruto is out of his reach now, especially when naruto ripped off her arm

lolz no.
 

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everyone saying that sasuke was acting as decoy so that naruto got a chance to hit her.
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but they were having a nice conversation here.
 
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