Sasuke is worse than Obito and Madara ever were

[saw2097]

Peace is more important than happiness.

What's the point of peace if there is no happiness, the reason people want peace is so they can pursue happiness, if there is no happiness in peace then peace has failed.

He's strong enough that everyone will just surrender quietly. Out of fear mostly.

Oh you mean like how everyone surrendered to Obito, Madara, or Kaguya.

No wait they didn't, they stood against them.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

I guess that's why he wants to end the shinobi system huh?
So nothing like itachis life ever happens again, and so he can carry on itachis will to protect the leaf.

Sometimes sacrifices MUST be made. Naruto just doesn't agree with this. Neither are right, neither are wrong, but naruto needs to understand his philosophy won't change the world, and while sasukes is kinda cruel, it can change the current system.

How many more would have to die for Sasuke's vision? He doesn't even really care about peace, not really, only living up to the expectations of a dead man. And Itachi would still be ashamed.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

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Who tried to rob people of their free will again?

 

[Senju Bean]

What's the point of peace if there is no happiness, the reason people want peace is so they can pursue happiness, if there is no happiness in peace then peace has failed.



Oh you mean like how everyone surrendered to Obito, Madara, or Kaguya.

No wait they didn't, they stood against them.

Better than the current system. If the goal is peace, then nothing else matters, not even happiness.

Well, Sasuke is clearly in a higher league then them. Except for Kaguya but there is no surrendering to her, she just wants to kill everyone.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Their peace would have been eternal, Sasuke's would end with his dictatorship, either when he died, or when the people revolted.

Madara and Obito's peace was fake,even Naruto said so.

 

[saw2097]

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Who tried to rob people of their free will again?

Want to hear the really funny thing, I have been firmly against Obito and Madara's Eye of the Moon Plan and I have been very vocal about it.

But even I think that Sasuke's plan is even more evil, because with his plan the killing will never stop, once he takes over the world people will constantly rise against him and he will kill them.

And the thing about tyranny is that once that tyrant falls the government will collapse and the world will be left in chaos.

Better than the current system. If the goal is peace, then nothing else matters, not even happiness.

Well, Sasuke is clearly in a higher league then them. Except for Kaguya but there is no surrendering to her, she just wants to kill everyone.

So its better if everyone in the world is miserable as long as there is peace?

That would be a terrible world to live in.

People were outclassed by Juubi Jin Obito and Madara, yet they didn't stop fighting even after Madara dropped a meteor on them.

People will fight against Sasuke, and the killing will continue.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Madara and Obito's peace was fake,even Naruto said so.

You're point being? At least their happiness was real, Sasuke's peace would create nothing but misery.

 

[Dannie]

This base can't be this stupid, can it? As if Sasuke is actually going to kill the kages

Sasuke hasn't even killed anyone yet lmao and you're trying to compare this chapter to Obito's past irrelevant actions that has made a larger, much worse impact on the story then anything that Sasuke has done? Lol

 

[Darth Uchiha]

This base can't be this stupid, can it? As if Sasuke is actually going to kill the kages

Sasuke hasn't even killed anyone yet lmao and you're trying to compare this chapter to Obito's past irrelevant actions that has made a larger, much worse impact on the story then anything that Sasuke has done? Lol

I'm comparing his plan to Obito's. His would result in never ending violence, whereas Obito and Madara's didn't.

 

[Senju Bean]

You're point being? At least their happiness was real, Sasuke's peace would create nothing but misery.

Why so? Misery comes only from violence. Without violence, there is no misery.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Want to hear the really funny thing, I have been firmly against Obito and Madara's Eye of the Moon Plan and I have been very vocal about it.

But even I think that Sasuke's plan is even more evil, because with his plan the killing will never stop, once he takes over the world people will constantly rise against him and he will kill them.

And the thing about tyranny is that once that tyrant falls the government will collapse and the world will be left in chaos.

How is it more evil when Madara and Obito literally tried to rob people of what makes them human:free will and the freedom to choose.Atleast Sasuke would give people the choice of opposing him or not.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

You're point being? At least their happiness was real, Sasuke's peace would create nothing but misery.

No,their happiness was a illusion.None of it was real.

 

[Senju Bean]

How is it more evil when Madara and Obito literally tried to rob people of what makes them human:free will and the freedom to choose.Atleast Sasuke would give people the choice of opposing him or not.

Madara actually gave people a good ass trip. They will wake up with good memories.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Why so? Misery comes only from violence. Without violence, there is no misery.

And what about when the people rise up against him? What about when he dies and chaos ensues in the vacuum? Also, no, misery comes from far more than violence.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

No,their happiness was a illusion.None of it was real.

Peace can be an illusion, but not happiness, you can't say happiness is an illusion unless someone is only feigning happiness. They were happy, that's the end of it.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

How is it more evil when Madara and Obito literally tried to rob people of what makes them human:free will and the freedom to choose.Atleast Sasuke would give people the choice of opposing him or not.

Yeah, of course opposing him means death...they don't really have a choice, do they?

 

[Senju Bean]

And what about when the people rise up against him? What about when he dies and chaos ensues in the vacuum? Also, no, misery comes from far more than violence.

He can just restrain with genjutsu. No need to kill.


Well, they would be less miserable under Sasuke's rule than they are fighting to the death.

The worst life of all is on the battlefield.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

He can just restrain with genjutsu. No need to kill.


Well, are less miserable under Sasuke's rule than they are fighting to the death.

The worst life of all is on the battlefield.

I'd rather die on the battlefield as a soldier, than die in a camp as a prisoner, just saying.

 

[saw2097]

How is it more evil when Madara and Obito literally tried to rob people of what makes them human:free will and the freedom to choose.Atleast Sasuke would give people the choice of opposing him or not.

There is no question in my mind that Obito's and Madara's plan was sick and evil, I have said this a thousand times.

But their killing would have stopped once they accomplished their plan, with Sasuke's plan the killing will never stop.

Madara would have stopped killing people once he put everyone in a genjutsu, I am not saying that justifies or exonerates him, he was a lunatic. But Sasuke has no intention to stop the killing, in order to maintain his New World Order more people would have to die.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Peace can be an illusion, but not happiness, you can't say happiness is an illusion unless someone is only feigning happiness. They were happy, that's the end of it.

Happiness is nothing if it's fake.What do you think will happen when those trapped in IT are released and find out none of it was real?