Sasuke is worse than Obito and Madara ever were

[Darth Uchiha]

My apologies. I never meant to insult you. I wanted to challenge your opinion. Think about it: even if you're in a country under rule of fear by someone, who's character is similar to Sasuke's, you'll still have the chances to do stuff and work-hard for what you always dream of. However, compare it to a rule under an illusion entirely controlled by a dedicator like Madara's character, you literally have no will to do what you want and your whole life is under his control. Potentially someone like Madara, who loves watching his enemies suffer, he'll probably mind-game his victims. Sorry, but I want to have my free will and choice to do what I want, and not a slave.​

Well, Madara has shown that he genuinely wanted to help, what with his line about Naruto stealing everyone's happiness. Also, not so, Sasuke's world would probably be like either North Korea or Soviet Russia, and no amount of hard work could help you there. And, I know you didn't mean to insult me, I wasn't offended, but, as someone who suffered from a very bad bout of depression, I was just saying, I know the mindset that would make someone accept something like IT.

 

[Tennis Robot]

Haha, you've never wanted to die, well, I have, I know why someone would choose that.

You shouldn't be talking to us about this problem. For one, you don't seem to consider anyone else's perspective on the matter. Also, you always bring up a hatred of your own existence. I don't know how serious you are about it, but that is not something that you should be so frequently bringing up to random, unqualified people on the Internet. If you really think you have a problem, go seek help from someone with actual credibility.

 

[WalksInShadows]

the thing that makes me believe Sasuke is worse than the both of them is that he knows of ppl that failed trying to put everything on their own shoulders to solve, and yet he still insists on being fueled by the hubris that it can't possibly happen to him.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

You shouldn't be talking to us about this problem. For one, you don't seem to consider anyone else's perspective on the matter. Also, you always bring up a hatred of your own existence. I don't know how serious you are about it, but that is not something that you should be so frequently bringing up to random, unqualified people on the Internet. If you really think you have a problem, go seek help from someone with actual credibility.

Believe me, I'm not depressed anymore, I usually mention my depression in these debates to point out why someone would reach a conclusion like Obito's. Personally, I found him to be the most relatable character while I was depressed, because I knew how it felt to be so miserable you'd rather live a lie than face reality, am I there anymore? No, do I use it in an objective manner? Yes.

Edit: Also, I did get therapy.

 

[Bronze]

Well, Madara has shown that he genuinely wanted to help, what with his line about Naruto stealing everyone's happiness. Also, not so, Sasuke's world would probably be like either North Korea or Soviet Russia, and no amount of hard work could help you there. And, I know you didn't mean to insult me, I wasn't offended, but, as someone who suffered from a very bad bout of depression, I was just saying, I know the mindset that would make someone accept something like IT.

Kishimoto didn't have him stay for too long after back-stabbed by Black Zetsu. Who knows if he continued fighting Naruto and Sasuke. Let me tell you something: 3 years ago at my school, a German woman lived back at the days of Hitler's rule, she said something like surviving the war or something. This isn't a bullshit, it's true. Back to my original point, you can still get out of a corrupted government rule. Some way and somehow, you'll have to work for it; and that is what makes someone a hard-worker and ambitious.

Someone who wants to live inside an illusion is someone who gave up his life.​

 

[Tennis Robot]

Believe me, I'm not depressed anymore, I usually mention my depression in these debates to point out why someone would reach a conclusion like Obito's. Personally, I found him to be the most relatable character while I was depressed, because I knew how it felt to be so miserable you'd rather live a lie than face reality, am I there anymore? No, do I use it in an objective manner? Yes.

Edit: Also, I did get therapy.

Understanding it and believing it to be the solution are two different things. I think that everyone, to some extent, understands how the idea of Infinite Tsukuyomi would be appealing, because everyone has hit rock bottom at some point in their lives. You, however, seem to think that it is still the ideal method of creating true peace. Why is that?

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Understanding it and believing it to be the solution are two different things. I think that everyone, to some extent, understands how the idea of Infinite Tsukuyomi would be appealing, because everyone has hit rock bottom at some point in their lives. You, however, seem to think that it is still the ideal method of creating true peace. Why is that?

Well, I don't, not anymore, but, when I did, it was because I'd given up all hope. The way I saw things, people were cold, unfeeling, and cruel. I felt like, to the people that didn't outright look down on me, I was invisible, and being invisible was honestly, in many ways, just as bad as being hated. That invisibility made me start to hate the world for how I felt it treated me, then I'd turn on the news, hear about more innocent people getting killed, and I began to fully hate mankind. At the time I barely had any friends, and my grades were failing, even the things I loved like acting weighed in on my stress, until I began to resent my friends for being happy while I was not. I finally lost all hope when the girl I loved flat out rejected me, which is why I began relating to Obito so easily. Since I'm also a lucid dreamer, I looked forward to going to sleep, because, at that point, pretending to live in paradise beat living in the real world. That was why I fully agreed with IT and even wished it'd happen here, I didn't even care about anyone else anymore, all I knew was that I was always miserable. Of course, once I realized I found it easy to relate to a fictional mass murderer I realized I needed serious help, my school forced me to get a psych exam for self-harm and now I'm actually doing a lot better, but, yeah, that's why I agreed with Obito.