Sasuke did not get powers handed to him

[UCE]

just ignore them.

 

[Born sinner]

powers is nothing unless you can actually use them like sasuke and unlike naruto

 

[aashish1996]

I don't care what people say... It's obvious powers were "handed" to Sasuke and Naruto when you have teens that can beat legendary people like Hashirama and Madara without much effort when they were considered the best of the best.

 

[Ryu D Hyuuga]

you can look at it, in two diffrent ways, you can either look at is as, "Everybody got things handed to them one way or another, or you could you could give it explantion, naruto was a baby and didint really contribute at all to getting the nine tails, but he worked hard to tame/control it and enchanced its powers a couple of times, like when he mixed sage mode with kyuubi mode for exmaple, it all really depends how you look at it.

Also good point

 

[Ryu D Hyuuga]

I don't care what people say... It's obvious powers were "handed" to Sasuke and Naruto when you have teens that can beat legendary people like Hashirama and Madara without much effort when they were considered the best of the best.

That's a good way to look at it

 

[siege]

The only thing your thread is demonstrates is Sasukes willingness to be used so he can gain power 1. Orochimaru knew Sasuke could survive getting a curse Mark which is Orochimaru's essence which he described as putting a leash around neck then Kakashi put the cure sealing jutsu on him which gave him some aid in controlling 2. Itachi plan was to awaken his Mangekyo which he then overused and refused to implant his brothers eyes until Naruto gave him motivation and of course Obito wanted this because the EMS with amplify his hate more than Itachi came along as an Edo then gave them a lecture about what you're talking about now people who try to do it on their own lose the same with Naruto the whole theme Naruto is teamwork and cooperation those who go on and on about Sasuke talking about he's perfect and does it all by himself they focus on the trivial and lose sight of what's truly important

 

[ClarifyingThings]

listen just tell me how he earned curse seal itachi's eyes and sage power and i will respect your opinion that sounds fair to me right?

the curse seal in itself, he did not really work for, but it wasint really used for sasuke to get power, orchimaru just wanted sasuke's body, so he tried to trick into joining him, wich was succesful, but sasuke also used it to his advantage, he knew that orchimaru wanted his body, so he used that to his advantage,to put it in simpler terms, orchimaru thought that he was using sasuke, but sasuke was using orchimaru, he got a power boost, wich he learned how to control, wich many other expirments died/became orchimaru's pupets, and learned some new skills by training with the test-subects and then he double crossed orchimaru before he can use him, isint that using your brains?, now for itachi's eyes, like i said in the post, if he never fought itachi, he would've never got the eyes, or met tobi, it was basically all luck and oppurtunity, he wasint really looking to get his eyes, its something that was just their in the heap of the moment, he went their to kill itachi and get "revenge" but then the circumstances changed when he met tobi and then he learned the truth about itachi and decided to destroy konoah, and he fought danzo,raikage,mizukage and etc at the summit and he became blind because he overused it and sense itachi's eye were their, he used it, and fused it with his own eyes, to get ems, thats just like if you were trying to make money and you found ten thousand dollors and by change their was four thousand dollors, in the same area and you picked that up as well, you werent looking for that money but it was their so you took the oppurtuinty and used it, that basically what happen.

 

[Ryu D Hyuuga]

FACT:

The eyes Sasuke currently has, belonged to Itachi

Sasuke ruined is original eyes due to overuse

If it wasnt for him stealing the eyes, he would still be blind

He states he can feel Itachi's power flowing into him

Sasuke was handed the power to unlock Itachi's eyes and upgrade them to Rinnegan

Don't try to refute this, If you steal a car, paint it, trick it out and someone gives you a better engine. It's still not your car because you stole it.

Listen idk how many times I have to tell you half baked etards the only way to abtain renningan is to combine indara and asura chakra that's how madara dd it that's the only way to do it

 

[Rizengan01]

Oh yeah? Show me with proof how he worked for them. Go ahead. I'll wait.

Show you....proof...of everything....Sasuke has worked for...?

Explain your argument.

Gladly. Keep in mind that this spurred from this comment, though:

"naruto earned the respect of the tailed beast i mean he fought ms obito the juubi husk and jinchurikis and still was talking about saving them ems sasuke would have died in that battle. its a difference from earning and getting a handout sasuke earned none of his power ups sage even just gave it to him because he felt bad for INDRA"

Did Sasuke worked for his EMS?

Going by what Liquid Snake said above, Sasuke fighting the Kages and Team 7 was him "earning" EMS. Sasuke "earned the respect" of Itachi as well, so that further backs my point.

Cursed mark?

Sasuke's body assimilated the Cursed Seal (hence why he didn't die), and then Sasuke even spent the three years after that mastering the power. Sasuke also earned the respect of Orochimaru and Juugo.

Rinnegan?

Sasuke earned this by fighting Obito and Madara and the Juubi, by bringing the Edo Kages, and by earning the respect of Hagoromo.

While Naruto goes through all the hard work trying to control sage chakra, Kyuubi and trust of all the bijuus and the village.

See, now you just stepped into the same foolish zone as Liquid Snake. Earning a Bijuu's trust means he earned that power-up? Then Sasuke earned the trust of Hagoromo, and deserved that power-up. Then Sasuke earned the respect of Orochimaru and Itachi and Obito and Madara, so he earned every power-up associated with them as well. Etc. If you want to try to use such a faulty argument for one character, then don't ignore it for the other.

Like I said in my original post, Sasuke was handed free power. So was Naruto. No point in even trying to get around this.

 

[ClarifyingThings]

It was handed to him, but unlike an Uchiha it drains his chakra more considerably thus being a good and bad thing. He still had to train his body to be able to handle it. So that point is moot. And I like how you ignored all of my posts after the first one. I think it's because you know I'm right.

i'm not ignoring you im just talking to a whole bunch of people at one time, and thats what im basically trying to say, it was by chance/oppurtuinty, is it sasuke's fault that his chakra doesint get drained as fast as kakashi's while using the sharigan because he's a uchiha? no, it was luck and chance, and actually kakashi used ms longer than sasuke, he used ms mostly all of shippuden when sasuke unlocked his mid point during the show,like around the killer bee fight and he still lost it when he fought at the five kage summit, while kakashi on the other hand used way more times than sasuke.

 

[ClarifyingThings]

The only thing your thread is demonstrates is Sasukes willingness to be used so he can gain power 1. Orochimaru knew Sasuke could survive getting a curse Mark which is Orochimaru's essence which he described as putting a leash around neck then Kakashi put the cure sealing jutsu on him which gave him some aid in controlling 2. Itachi plan was to awaken his Mangekyo which he then overused and refused to implant his brothers eyes until Naruto gave him motivation and of course Obito wanted this because the EMS with amplify his hate more than Itachi came along as an Edo then gave them a lecture about what you're talking about now people who try to do it on their own lose the same with Naruto the whole theme Naruto is teamwork and cooperation those who go on and on about Sasuke talking about he's perfect and does it all by himself they focus on the trivial and lose sight of what's truly important

i know sasuke has his flaws, but im tired of people that keep saying that he had everything handed to him, if you could say that about sasuke, you can say that mostly about every powerful shonibi, it all depends how you look at it, but im still sticking by to what i said, sasuke used his brains and oppurtuintys to out-smart orchimaru and to fight itachi and got a oppurtunity to get his eyes, but like i said its all depends how you look at it.

 

[Liquid Snake]

the curse seal in itself, he did not really work for, but it wasint really used for sasuke to get power, orchimaru just wanted sasuke's body, so he tried to trick into joining him, wich was succesful, but sasuke also used it to his advantage, he knew that orchimaru wanted his body, so he used that to his advantage,to put it in simpler terms, orchimaru thought that he was using sasuke, but sasuke was using orchimaru, he got a power boost, wich he learned how to control, wich many other expirments died/became orchimaru's pupets, and learned some new skills by training with the test-subects and then he double crossed orchimaru before he can use him, isint that using your brains?, now for itachi's eyes, like i said in the post, if he never fought itachi, he would've never got the eyes, or met tobi, it was basically all luck and oppurtunity, he wasint really looking to get his eyes, its something that was just their in the heap of the moment, he went their to kill itachi and get "revenge" but then the circumstances changed when he met tobi and then he learned the truth about itachi and decided to destroy konoah, and he fought danzo,raikage,mizukage and etc at the summit and he became blind because he overused it and sense itachi's eye were their, he used it, and fused it with his own eyes, to get ems, thats just like if you were trying to make money and you found ten thousand dollors and by change their was four thousand dollors, in the same area and you picked that up as well, you werent looking for that money but it was their so you took the oppurtuinty and used it, that basically what happen.

throughout ur whole comment u didnt say "he earned" lol all i said was tell me how he "EARNED" his powers dnt remind me how he got them i clearly know that

 

[lilenesaron]

i'm not ignoring you im just talking to a whole bunch of people at one time, and thats what im basically trying to say, it was by chance/oppurtuinty, is it sasuke's fault that his chakra doesint get drained as fast as kakashi's while using the sharigan because he's a uchiha? no, it was luck and chance, and actually kakashi used ms longer than sasuke, he used ms mostly all of shippuden when sasuke unlocked his mid point during the show,like around the killer bee fight and he still lost it when he fought at the five kage summit, while kakashi on the other hand used way more times than sasuke.

kakashi used it cautiously. sasuke was reckless with his ms. the fight against danzo, and 5 kage summit is just over doing it.

 

[Liquid Snake]

Show you....proof...of everything....Sasuke has worked for...?



Gladly. Keep in mind that this spurred from this comment, though:

"naruto earned the respect of the tailed beast i mean he fought ms obito the juubi husk and jinchurikis and still was talking about saving them ems sasuke would have died in that battle. its a difference from earning and getting a handout sasuke earned none of his power ups sage even just gave it to him because he felt bad for INDRA"



Going by what Liquid Snake said above, Sasuke fighting the Kages and Team 7 was him "earning" EMS. Sasuke "earned the respect" of Itachi as well, so that further backs my point.



Sasuke's body assimilated the Cursed Seal (hence why he didn't die), and then Sasuke even spent the three years after that mastering the power. Sasuke also earned the respect of Orochimaru and Juugo.



Sasuke earned this by fighting Obito and Madara and the Juubi, by bringing the Edo Kages, and by earning the respect of Hagoromo.



See, now you just stepped into the same foolish zone as Liquid Snake. Earning a Bijuu's trust means he earned that power-up? Then Sasuke earned the trust of Hagoromo, and deserved that power-up. Then Sasuke earned the respect of Orochimaru and Itachi and Obito and Madara, so he earned every power-up associated with them as well. Etc. If you want to try to use such a faulty argument for one character, then don't ignore it for the other.

Like I said in my original post, Sasuke was handed free power. So was Naruto. No point in even trying to get around this.

lmao wtf did i just read? he earned the respect of oro? oro jus said he wants to see where sasukes road takes him after all the power up he received and still wants his body so thats not respect. sasuke couldnt control curse seal mark until kakashi helped him otherwise he would have died so there goes that part and the sage clearly sage he was going to give the reincarnation of indra his power to make up for leaving everything to ashura sasuke earned nothing sorry i had to burst your bubble guy

 

[ClarifyingThings]

throughout ur whole comment u didnt say "he earned" lol all i said was tell me how he "EARNED" his powers dnt remind me how he got them i clearly know that

he earned it by using his brains,taking chances and not wasting oppurtunitys,you dont have to work hard just to get things, like i said in my thread,even in the real world, people work all day and barely get sleep and they still get a low pay check and some people got rich and barely did anything, they were just naturally talented and pursed their dreams and became very succesful and some people work hard and it pays off, naruto has luck aswell, some people that work hard, dont even get sucessful, lee is a prime example, he worked harder than naruto and sasuke, no rare bloodline or hidden powers, and look at his situation compared to naruto's.

 

[DaileyM]

All that effort and in the end he still got his power handed to him by Hagoromo.

 

[ClarifyingThings]

All that effort and in the end he still got his power handed to him by Hagoromo.

so did naruto, it was inevitable.

 

[Cunning Linguist]

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[Liquid Snake]

he earned it by using his brains,taking chances and not wasting oppurtunitys,you dont have to work hard just to get things, like i said in my thread,even in the real world, people work all day and barely get sleep and they still get a low pay check and some people got rich and barely did anything, they were just naturally talented and pursed their dreams and became very succesful and some people work hard and it pays off, naruto has luck aswell, some people that work hard, dont even get sucessful, lee is a prime example, he worked harder than naruto and sasuke, no rare bloodline or hidden powers, and look at his situation compared to naruto's.

lee is in a good situation he has potential look at gai and still those ppl that work hard for they paychecks earned them even tho they might deserve more. sasuke did not earned anything he basically sat on his ass and got power ups man jus face it

 

[ClarifyingThings]

lee is in a good situation he has potential look at gai and still those ppl that work hard for they paychecks earned them even tho they might deserve more. sasuke did not earned anything he basically sat on his ass and got power ups man jus face it

He was stronger than naruto & sasuke,in part 1, he worked way harder like i said, no rare bloodline, like (uzamakai, senju or uchiha),no specail powers no nine tails, no sharigan or nothing like that and look at the diffrence, naruto and saske are on a wayyyyyy higher level then them and he worked harder, like i said its all by luck, yes he has pontential but he'll never be as strong as naruto or sasuke, and like i said you dont have to agree with me but i will stay by my opinion, and like i said it all depends how you look at it, if you think that sasuke got "handed powers up", then you can say the say for Naruto,kakashi,obito,madara,hashirama and alot of other powerful Shinobi's