Sasuke did not get powers handed to him

[DaileyM]

so did naruto, it was inevitable.

And exactly why are you bringing Naruto up? Your thread is about Sasuke, I never once said Naruto didn't or even mentioned Naruto in my post.

 

[Liquid Snake]

He was stronger than naruto & sasuke,in part 1, he worked way harder like i said, no rare bloodline, like (uzamakai, senju or uchiha),no specail powers no nine tails, no sharigan or nothing like that and look at the diffrence, naruto and saske are on a wayyyyyy higher level then them and he worked harder, like i said its all by luck, yes he has pontential but he'll never be as strong as naruto or sasuke, and like i said you dont have to agree with me but i will stay by my opinion, and like i said it all depends how you look at it, if you think that sasuke got "handed powers up", then you can say the say for Naruto,kakashi,obito,madara,hashirama and alot of other powerful Shinobi's

what powers were handed to madara and hashi? and who says lee wont get up there guy almost killed juubimadara with no rare bloodline no sharigan no special powers or nine tails so whats ur point? and i stand by my opinion sasuke was handed all his power ups he did absolutely no training and he put in no effort to unlock any of his powers except chidori lol

 

[Liquid Snake]

He was stronger than naruto & sasuke,in part 1, he worked way harder like i said, no rare bloodline, like (uzamakai, senju or uchiha),no specail powers no nine tails, no sharigan or nothing like that and look at the diffrence, naruto and saske are on a wayyyyyy higher level then them and he worked harder, like i said its all by luck, yes he has pontential but he'll never be as strong as naruto or sasuke, and like i said you dont have to agree with me but i will stay by my opinion, and like i said it all depends how you look at it, if you think that sasuke got "handed powers up", then you can say the say for Naruto,kakashi,obito,madara,hashirama and alot of other powerful Shinobi's

also how was he stronger than naruto? he couldnt beat gaara or neji but he did whoop sasuke so u are right about him being stronger than sasuke

 

[ClarifyingThings]

And exactly why are you bringing Naruto up? Your thread is about Sasuke, I never once said Naruto didn't or even mentioned Naruto in my post.

im only saying that because thats being biased, if you say that about sasuke you can say the same for naruto, heck even kaguya, your basically trying to say that he had handed power-ups, everybody has their own opinion but after all the words i said, you only said 2 lines, of stuff that i already mentioned in the post?, it doesint back up your opinion at all.

 

[DaileyM]

im only saying that because thats being biased, if you say that about sasuke you can say the same for naruto, heck even kaguya, your basically trying to say that he had handed power-ups, everybody has their own opinion but after all the words i said, you only said 2 lines, of stuff that i already mentioned in the post?, it doesint back up your opinion at all.

I would be biased if i said that ONLY Sasuke has had his powers handed to him, All i said is that he received his powers from Hagoromo, Not all his powerups. I'm obviously aware of that. And i'm also aware that Naruto got his latest powerup from Hagoromo, But this thread is about Sasuke not Naruto.

And it's not an opinion that Sasuke and Naruto receiver there latest power from Hagoromo? It's a fact .

 

[ClarifyingThings]

also how was he stronger than naruto? he couldnt beat gaara or neji but he did whoop sasuke so u are right about him being stronger than sasuke

He one panneld naruto, he redirected his charge with his hand

what powers were handed to madara and hashi? and who says lee wont get up there guy almost killed juubimadara with no rare bloodline no sharigan no special powers or nine tails so whats ur point? and i stand by my opinion sasuke was handed all his power ups he did absolutely no training and he put in no effort to unlock any of his powers except chidori lol

Hashirama is a senju and madara took his brothers eye and took hashirama's senjustsu and is a uchiha, im only going by your logic of "Handed power-ups" if you say that about sasuke having itachi's eye, you can say the same about madara, also gai used a tenchque that is temparoay and leads to death, people only use the 8 gates when their in a life or death situation and after you use it, you dont have the strength anymore, and you die, so even if lee used it, he would only be close to naruto & sasuke's strength temporaily and then he"ll die afterwards, and he would only use it, if he's fighting and enemy, not just to be as strong as his peers.

 

[ClarifyingThings]

I would be biased if i said that ONLY Sasuke has had his powers handed to him, All i said is that he received his powers from Hagoromo, Not all his powerups. I'm obviously aware of that. And i'm also aware that Naruto got his latest powerup from Hagoromo, But this thread is about Sasuke not Naruto.

And it's not an opinion that Sasuke and Naruto receiver there latest power from Hagoromo? It's a fact .

yeah it is a fact, im just wondering, what was the point of even saying it?

 

[Liquid Snake]

He one panneld naruto, he redirected his charge with his hand

Hashirama is a senju and madara took his brothers eye and took hashirama's senjustsu and is a uchiha, im only going by your logic of "Handed power-ups" if you say that about sasuke having itachi's eye, you can say the same about madara, also gai used a tenchque that is temparoay and leads to death, people only use the 8 gates when their in a life or death situation and after you use it, you dont have the strength anymore, and you die, so even if lee used it, he would only be close to naruto & sasuke's strength temporaily and then he"ll die afterwards, and he would only use it, if he's fighting and enemy, not just to be as strong as his peers.

how are you going by my logic by saying becasue hashi is a senju he was handed done powers then what happend to tsunade? oops there goes that part but madara was givin izunas eyes but he earned all his powers other than that he didnt have cursed seal and him and hashi trained hard everyday to get that strong sasuke didnt train and lee can use 7 gates, naruto and sasuke arent as strong as juubimadara individually so maybe lees power could be close i know he would never be equal to them. sasuke was giving his powers because all the events the lead to him unlocking the sharigan were staged and planned even his hatred toward itachi so technically his emotion was giving to him to if it werent for itachi doing wat he did sasuke might not even have made it to a 3 tomoe sharigan

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

how are you going by my logic by saying becasue hashi is a senju he was handed done powers then what happend to tsunade? oops there goes that part but madara was givin izunas eyes but he earned all his powers other than that he didnt have cursed seal and him and hashi trained hard everyday to get that strong sasuke didnt train and lee can use 7 gates, naruto and sasuke arent as strong as juubimadara individually so maybe lees power could be close i know he would never be equal to them. sasuke was giving his powers because all the events the lead to him unlocking the sharigan were staged and planned even his hatred toward itachi so technically his emotion was giving to him to if it werent for itachi doing wat he did sasuke might not even have made it to a 3 tomoe sharigan

Dafuq?Sasuke train alot,he trained to learn Chidori, he trained with Orcochimaru,and he trained with his MS powers.You're just being biased at this point since Madara had power "handed" to him going by your inane logic.

 

[DaileyM]

yeah it is a fact, im just wondering, what was the point of even saying it?

To be completely honest with you, I was too lazy to read your full post. So i kind of skipped most of it and just said what came up in my mind.

 

[ClarifyingThings]

how are you going by my logic by saying becasue hashi is a senju he was handed done powers then what happend to tsunade? oops there goes that part but madara was givin izunas eyes but he earned all his powers other than that he didnt have cursed seal and him and hashi trained hard everyday to get that strong sasuke didnt train and lee can use 7 gates, naruto and sasuke arent as strong as juubimadara individually so maybe lees power could be close i know he would never be equal to them. sasuke was giving his powers because all the events the lead to him unlocking the sharigan were staged and planned even his hatred toward itachi so technically his emotion was giving to him to if it werent for itachi doing wat he did sasuke might not even have made it to a 3 tomoe sharigan

You said that sasuke never worked hard and that he got things "Handed to him" so by your logic, you can say the same about hashirama's senju power, that gave him a huge power boost, just like how uzamaki gives you good healing powers,also it wasint just "Izuna's eye" it was also hashirama's senjustu, remmber he mixed that with his, and made the rinnegan also the face on his chest he absorbed more senjustu, so yes by your logic that is indeed a "Handed power" and tsunade wasint a pure blood senju, hashirama was her grandfather, people have diffrent things in their family's like being half spanish and half jamaican or half indian and half trinadadian and etc, we dont know who her parents are, and sasuke did train too, but like i said time after time, he used his brains more than working hard, some people get things easier than others, it was all by luck and chance, and i never said that they were as strong as juubimadara inividually, and lee will not be close to their power, that is really far-fetched, they have the power of the sage, theirs no way that lee would be able to get that far,kishimoto doesint even develop him that much anymore, and excatly like i said, it was oppurtuinty, sasuke played a big part in getting his own power, itachi didint force sasuke to fight him, he played with his emotions, so he could never find out the truth about him, itachi never stated that he did that to make sasuke strong, he did that to play his role as the susposedly "Bad guy" like danzo kept telling people in the village, but anyway im done debating with you, i cant change your mind, you cant change mind, so i guess thats it.

 

[ClarifyingThings]

To be completely honest with you, I was too lazy to read your full post. So i kind of skipped most of it and just said what came up in my mind.

Lol i knew it,please read it, so you dont think that im just trying to fanboy

 

[DaileyM]

Lol i knew it,please read it, so you dont think that im just trying to fanboy

Okay ill read it now XD

 

[Klaves]

You said that sasuke never worked hard and that he got things "Handed to him" so by your logic, you can say the same about hashirama's senju power, that gave him a huge power boost, just like how uzamaki gives you good healing powers,also it wasint just "Izuna's eye" it was also hashirama's senjustu, remmber he mixed that with his, and made the rinnegan also the face on his chest he absorbed more senjustu, so yes by your logic that is indeed a "Handed power" and tsunade wasint a pure blood senju, hashirama was her grandfather, people have diffrent things in their family's like being half spanish and half jamaican or half indian and half trinadadian and etc, we dont know who her parents are, and sasuke did train too, but like i said time after time, he used his brains more than working hard, some people get things easier than others, it was all by luck and chance, and i never said that they were as strong as juubimadara inividually, and lee will not be close to their power, that is really far-fetched, they have the power of the sage, theirs no way that lee would be able to get that far,kishimoto doesint even develop him that much anymore, and excatly like i said, it was oppurtuinty, sasuke played a big part in getting his own power, itachi didint force sasuke to fight him, he played with his emotions, so he could never find out the truth about him, itachi never stated that he did that to make sasuke strong, he did that to play his role as the susposedly "Bad guy" like danzo kept telling people in the village, but anyway im done debating with you, i cant change your mind, you cant change mind, so i guess thats it.

Just adding to your argument:

Family heritage may entitle shinobi to being naturally strong, but it still requires effort. Sure, Gai and Lee trained like hell to use the gates. They train the most in the manga, I'm sure (if you don't count Naruto's clone hax). However, if Gai's dad wasn't a gates user, he never would have been and therefore Lee wouldn't have been either. Gai's heritage directly effected his strength, just like everyone in the manga.

 

[Liquid Snake]

Dafuq?Sasuke train alot,he trained to learn Chidori, he trained with Orcochimaru,and he trained with his MS powers.You're just being biased at this point since Madara had power "handed" to him going by your inane logic.

sasuke trained to use chidori yes but other than than he was experimented on to get the other power ups like adding juugo's dna and oro's dna but im open to see a scan with him training with oro and training with his MS. he experienced hardship so he unlocked the MS that involved no training and He had no training with the EMS either he was just given sum eyes then pow there goes more power

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

sasuke trained to use chidori yes but other than than he was experimented on to get the other power ups like adding juugo's dna and oro's dna but im open to see a scan with him training with oro and training with his MS. he experienced hardship so he unlocked the MS that involved no training and He had no training with the EMS either he was just given sum eyes then pow there goes more power

Read early Part 2 and the end of Part 1,Sasuke went to Orochimaru to train which is why he even left the village in the first place.He also trained with his MS given the fact Juugo made a comment of Sasuke wanting to try out Susanoo at the Kage Summit.

Sasuke was literally pushed to his limit in order to awaken MS so he did earn it.

 

[Liquid Snake]

You said that sasuke never worked hard and that he got things "Handed to him" so by your logic, you can say the same about hashirama's senju power, that gave him a huge power boost, just like how uzamaki gives you good healing powers,also it wasint just "Izuna's eye" it was also hashirama's senjustu, remmber he mixed that with his, and made the rinnegan also the face on his chest he absorbed more senjustu, so yes by your logic that is indeed a "Handed power" and tsunade wasint a pure blood senju, hashirama was her grandfather, people have diffrent things in their family's like being half spanish and half jamaican or half indian and half trinadadian and etc, we dont know who her parents are, and sasuke did train too, but like i said time after time, he used his brains more than working hard, some people get things easier than others, it was all by luck and chance, and i never said that they were as strong as juubimadara inividually, and lee will not be close to their power, that is really far-fetched, they have the power of the sage, theirs no way that lee would be able to get that far,kishimoto doesint even develop him that much anymore, and excatly like i said, it was oppurtuinty, sasuke played a big part in getting his own power, itachi didint force sasuke to fight him, he played with his emotions, so he could never find out the truth about him, itachi never stated that he did that to make sasuke strong, he did that to play his role as the susposedly "Bad guy" like danzo kept telling people in the village, but anyway im done debating with you, i cant change your mind, you cant change mind, so i guess thats it.

how do u know tsunade isnt full senju did kishi say that? the only one proven to be a half breed is naruto also itachi wanted sasuke to kill him he said he only wanted to be judge by a uchiha and the only other uchihas he knew about where sasuke and obito and i know he didnt want obito to kill him. also madara wasnt given hashi's cells he took them thats how he awakened the rinnegan he wasnt revived with half of hashi until he took himself off of gedo statue so madara earned all his powers except maybe his wood style techniques and EMS izunas eyes were handed to him

 

[lilenesaron]

sasuke and naruto both trained hard. sasuke perfect his use of chidori variants and naruto trained to get sage mode and KCM and invented rasen shuriken. but they both had free power ups too. naruto got nine tails and bijuu chakras and hagoromo's senjutsu, sasuke got itachi's eyes, curse mark (though now useless), and hagoromo's power. yes hashi did give sasuke a jutsu both from the way i see it. its a one time deal. its not something he can use continuously. they both worked and trained and were given some of what they have now. and they had to use it in real life battles for experience and stuff. your thread is partially correct. but there's no doubt he was handed or given the power. if he didnt work or train for it like he did with them chidori variants or naruto did with rasengan then its was a gift from someone. he didnt earn it

 

[Liquid Snake]

Read early Part 2 and the end of Part 1,Sasuke went to Orochimaru to train which is why he even left the village in the first place.He also trained with his MS given the fact Juugo made a comment of Sasuke wanting to try out Susanoo at the Kage Summit.

Sasuke was literally pushed to his limit in order to awaken MS so he did earn it.

wat limit was sasuke pushed to to awaken MS? which fight was this? and sasuke went to kage summit to kill danzo not test susanoo sasuke only tested his powers when he awakened EMS. and just because sasuke left to train doesnt mean he actually trained. none of oro's experiments trained not juugo suigetsu kabuto karin sasuke or any other one lol

 

[Flawž]

Curse mark --> From Oro
EMS --> Itachi's eyes
Rinnegan --> Hagoromo and Hashirama's powers.