Sasori vs Onoki
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Disagree. Iron Sand bullets will quickly f*ck up Ohnoki if Jinton application is tried. Ohnoki wouldn't be able to dodge something that breaks the sound barrier, and sound travels 332 MPS. Not to mention Ohnoki has no type of defense.
Holy shit, I just realized Sasori trolls this guy.. Poison engulfed Iron Sand - One Scratch - Dead Ohnoki.
Sasori Mid.
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Only by overrating him. You think Doton is capable of protecting Onoki from IS destructive forms. Yet alone capable of dealing with attack speed superior then FRS.
Replace Magatamas with iron sand bullets.
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Then Onoki preps Jinton from behind the golem and vaporizes the whole area with big ass Jinton.
Actually, nvm. Golem isn't even needed. A basic ass earth wall is enough to tank iron sand bullets.
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Inb4 Onoki never showed earth wall. If the whole alliance can learn this technique in a few seconds, the Tsuchikage should know it.
Don't really feel like debating this rn though.
So Kakuzu gets that technique too?
We both know the sand was what mostly protected them, Golem made the sand bulkier. Not to mention Sasori can spawn IS around the golem, or use ISWO which traps Onoki from moving upwards.
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Sasori should win mid diff as long as he stops Onoki from gaining too much distances.
-Iron Sand should easily interrupt Jinton's prep time.
-Iron Sand should easily rip through Onoki's golem considering Magatama were capable of cracking it even w/ a Sand Shield from Gaara. Now, it might get more powerful if he forms it with chakra, but the one formed with chakra's best feat is blocking something that seems to be stronger than C1, but weaker than C2. But I doubt it'd protect him anyway since I'm sure Iron Sand would pierce Sasuke's wing with no trouble despite Sasuke's wing tanking C2.
And without a reliable way to end Sasori, Iron Sand eventually clips him.
-Iron Sand should easily interrupt Jinton's prep time.
-Iron Sand should easily rip through Onoki's golem considering Magatama were capable of cracking it even w/ a Sand Shield from Gaara. Now, it might get more powerful if he forms it with chakra, but the one formed with chakra's best feat is blocking something that seems to be stronger than C1, but weaker than C2. But I doubt it'd protect him anyway since I'm sure Iron Sand would pierce Sasuke's wing with no trouble despite Sasuke's wing tanking C2.
And without a reliable way to end Sasori, Iron Sand eventually clips him.
You can't give a character a technique he didn't show lol. That's standard man.
But no that wouldn't counter either, need an exact link to Ohnoki using the spawned golem, because atm breaking the sound barrier >> Ohnoki forming the rock golem. He'd be tagged way before he could perform such. Chiyo only managed to block the technique because her puppet was:
A: Already deployed
IS solos Ohnoki mate.
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You keep ignoring the attack speed of IS, compare to your examples. And you keep ignoring that Sasori can make much more lethal and destructive propellants.
Let us all remember Iron Sand's destructive power.
Now let us laugh at Golem tanking that even though the Golem was cracked by Magatama's after the Magatama's had already been severely weakened since they penetrated Gaara's Sand.
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Now let us laugh at Golem tanking that even though the Golem was cracked by Magatama's after the Magatama's had already been severely weakened since they penetrated Gaara's Sand.
Replying to everyone here because there is no way that Sasori wins this.
The golem is actually quite durable. A much, much weaker golem withstood the force of Deidara's bomb (
Spawning ISWO around the golem doesn't work because the golem can just break free from the thin restraints. It took large scale Deep Forest Emergence to restrain it (
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The golem can be formed extremely quickly based on the fact that it was erected fast enough to intercept the Magatamas. You can see by this fodder's
And not to mention, just because Sasori starts w/ the Kazekage out doesn't mean that iron sand is ready to be deployed from second 1. It has to come out of the Kazekage's mouth first.
And if all else fails tbh, the golem just grabs Onoki in its fist and retreats underground (
DrProof only mentioned iron sand bullets which are easily tanked. Larger iron sand variants can be punched away by the golem. I'll explain below.
No because Kakuzu isn't the Tsuchikage.
The golem is actually quite durable. A much, much weaker golem withstood the force of Deidara's bomb (
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) taking only moderate damage. Just because the sand mother was on top of the golem isn't proof that it's more durable than the golem. Logically the golem should be more durable since rock is more durable than sand therefore chakra infused rock is more durable than chakra infused sand, not to mention the golem is bigger and thicker.Spawning ISWO around the golem doesn't work because the golem can just break free from the thin restraints. It took large scale Deep Forest Emergence to restrain it (
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), the golem would easily smash apart ISWO....all of Onoki's golems are formed with chakra. He inserts his chakra through his hands into the ground and the golem rises out of the ground, it's just using the earth in the surroundings. Doesn't mean it's not reinforced with his chakra.
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are punched away by the golem. Onoki can make a rock clone that goes on top of the golem and adjusts its punches to make the punches super heavy and destructive with the weighted-boulder jutsu. Meanwhile, the real Onoki preps Jinton from behind the golem. When the iron sand collides with the golem's heavy punch, the golem will take some damage sure but the whole thing won't pierce through since the stronger force from the punch will knock it away allowing Jinton to be prepped and executed.Well I mean, people like Ino learned that technique in less than a minute. Pretty sure all Iwa ninja with an earth affinity know that jutsu, let alone the fkin Tsuchikage lmao.
The golem can be formed extremely quickly based on the fact that it was erected fast enough to intercept the Magatamas. You can see by this fodder's
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that he thought he was toast meaning the golem was formed really fast. And breaking the sound barrier isn't anything special.And not to mention, just because Sasori starts w/ the Kazekage out doesn't mean that iron sand is ready to be deployed from second 1. It has to come out of the Kazekage's mouth first.
Didn't say Golem would tank that. Saying when two forces collide (iron sand block and golem's weighted punch) the stronger force will knock back the weaker force. Common sense bruh. The golem might take some damage but it won't pierce all the way through because of the force applied. Also Sasori doesn't know where Onoki is exactly behind the golem because it blocks LOS so a spear going through the golem would prob not hit Onoki. Tbh, he probably will think the rock clone on top of the golem is the real Onoki and not realize that the real Onoki is actually preparing Jinton.
And if all else fails tbh, the golem just grabs Onoki in its fist and retreats underground (
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). Then Onoki prepares Jinton underground and vaporizes the whole battlefield above him. Troll asf.
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Then all his golem's get obliterated since Magatama cracked them despite having a Sand Shield supporting it.
Uh, if he uses the blocks then yes, they get punched away. But if he uses large spikes or the fast spikes then no, he doesn't punch them away. They'd rip right into his golem's fist under normal circumstances, but since you mentioned the added weight jutsu then yes, he'd most likely be able to knock away Iron Sand with that. However Sasori can use multiple Iron Sand attacks from multiple angles while the Golem can't strike from multiple angles, even moreso due to the fact that Onoki has to time his weighted boulder jutsu so that he doesn't make the golem too slow to block the attacks.
So the Golem gets wrecked and Jinton's prep is interrupted.
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Ok, but so far you keep mentioning non factor usage of IS via giant blocks and tiny bullets. IS has far better creative move sets that would provide trouble for Onoki .
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The prep that caused Mu to get 3 holes put in his chest when Naruto challenged him.
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Chiyo and Sakura reacting to Iron Sand doesn't change the fact that Onoki can't prep and fire Jinton before Iron Sand reaches him.
Just how much iron sand do you think Sasori has?
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is what he has at his disposal. Now he can make that into two large and powerful spears, or split them down into multiple smaller spears. At least two spears get knocked away by the golem's two fists so that leaves a few others, which have a very low probability of actually hitting Onoki since their AOE is small and Sasori doesn't know where he is behind the golem...in fact he'll probably think the rock clone on top of the golem is the real Onoki. And Sasori can't divide his iron sand into too many spears, otherwise they'll lose their destructive power and won't pierce through. At a guess I'd say five or six is his maximum.Actually, you know what. All this doesn't matter because after Onoki puts up his rock golem, Onoki
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and prepares his Jinton from below. So even if IS spears pierce through the golem they will sail right over Onoki's head.