Sage Mode Naruto Vs Itachi

[lanakau888]

Wow kurenai gets out of his genjutsu and that was just through pain. post timeskip Naruto partially gets out of itachi's genjutsu. It is stated that excellent chakra control allows you to break out of genjutsu. Naruto has magnificent chakra control. Itachi's basic genjutsu will be broken out of.

i agreed with most of ur other statements but magnificent chakra control dude ur overrating his chakra control quite a bit.

are you serious, unless itachi one-shots jiraiya then naruto won't get one-shotted either, since his chakra control is even greater than jiraiya's is.

 

[arv993]

itachi has more than just basic genjutsu he has ones that can even immobilize sannin(oro) without any problem. naruto may have gotten better chakra control i would not use the word extreme cos naturally he is bad at chakra control due to the nine tails. he can't just get out of genjutsu like nothing especially even high lvl ones like the ones he used on bee or oro. if he is caught he is vulnerable to other attacks such as amaterasu and so and so forth. naruto's chances in Sm are quite low in comparison to KM.[/QUOTE]

I repeat once again. Naruto has above sannin level chakra control since his sage mode is way superior to jiraiya's sage mode. He will get out of the high-level genjutsus. He will not get out of tsukuyomi. Naruto's chakra control is extremely high, higher than most ninja in the narutoverse.[/QUOTE]

who told you that man his chakra control is not that amazing by any standards and never been praised for it by any means. he was naturally bad at it due to kyubi in the beginning but improved but nowhere is it shown his chakra control is much better than most ninja in the narutoverse.

 

[lanakau888]

itachi has more than just basic genjutsu he has ones that can even immobilize sannin(oro) without any problem. naruto may have gotten better chakra control i would not use the word extreme cos naturally he is bad at chakra control due to the nine tails. he can't just get out of genjutsu like nothing especially even high lvl ones like the ones he used on bee or oro. if he is caught he is vulnerable to other attacks such as amaterasu and so and so forth. naruto's chances in Sm are quite low in comparison to KM.

I repeat once again. Naruto has above sannin level chakra control since his sage mode is way superior to jiraiya's sage mode. He will get out of the high-level genjutsus. He will not get out of tsukuyomi. Naruto's chakra control is extremely high, higher than most ninja in the narutoverse.[/QUOTE]

who told you that man his chakra control is not that amazing by any standards and never been praised for it by any means. he was naturally bad at it due to kyubi in the beginning but improved but nowhere is it shown his chakra control is much better than most ninja in the narutoverse.

Whatever his chakra control may be it has to be above jiraiya's since naruto's sage mode is perfect, while jiraya's isnt. And unless you think itachi is one-shotting jiraiya with genjutsu, he will not one-shot naruto.

Furthermore, itachi's so called immobolizing sannin genjutsu can only be cast if naruto looks into itachi's eyes. Naruto already knows not to do this, and will summon genjutsu-proof clones at the beginning of the battle, whom will be able to fight itachi to their heart's content.

 

[arv993]

are you serious, unless itachi one-shots jiraiya then naruto won't get one-shotted either, since his chakra control is even greater than jiraiya's is.

the fact that he needs a clone to use rasengan shows his lvl of chakra control. it improved but by no means "magnificent". ppl can be stopped by genjutsu of itachi that is his specialty not something surprising.

 

[arv993]

why are the quoting functions not working properly

 

[lanakau888]

the fact that he needs a clone to use rasengan shows his lvl of chakra control. it improved but by no means "magnificent". ppl can be stopped by genjutsu of itachi that is his specialty not something surprising.

Nope using a clone has nothing to do with chakra control. Naruto simply has a hard time doing all three of the steps of the rasengan at the same time.

So answer me, can itachi one-shot jiraiya with no difficulty? Cuz the last time I checked he said a stalemate was the only thing he could hope for.

 

[Dragonfly X]

What is this shit!!!.
Sage mode has been in two fights. Jiraiya vs pein and naruto vs pein and it both the users got defeated. Demon mode is what saved naruto, otherwise he was captured.

Sage mode is overrated, it still hasnt won a fight yet.

Itachi is the clear winner hear

Yet it smashed the rest of the pains, and Jiraiya only took out 3 I believe. If you don't call destroying individually strong ninja a good battle, if you don't count those as defeats, then you're crazy. Also, and I don't know how to say this without spoilers, but Third Raikage, look it up, SM kicked his ass xd
Also, SM is proven to be just as fast as KM. So, itachi isn't that fast, so I vote Naruto to win.

 

[Rovian]

Because all of his hundreds of clones were busy trying to find sasuke.
I told you how current naruto can break out of itachi's non-mangekyou genjutsu. Yes that naruto was still weaker than itachi.

Why would you think making many clones can make the user weaker? each clone has it's own mind and thinking, although Naruto controls their movements being the main one.. for example, Naruto created many Sage Mode clones in this war, it did take his Chakra out but it didn't make him weaker by any means..

Also, when he fought Itachi for the 3rd time, he could've used like 10 more clones or so to beat him like he did to Kakuzu, right? he knew that his clones wont work on him, that's why he didn't bother making any and charged on him instead..

Magnitude 13 facepalm
I even said in that very post that naruto will not get out of itachi's tsukuyomi, but will be able to get out of itachi's basic genjutsu.

All we've seen so far Naruto being unable to get out of his basic Genjutsu's, so I don't think being in Sage Mode will change that fact..

For now on I want you to spend a lot of time thinking before you make a statement like this.
If its true that you have to be as good as itachi at genjutsu in order to break out of his regular genjutsu, then if itachi were to fight anyone in the narutoverse, save madara, he would fodderize them in an instant because he is better than them. You have to think about applying statements that you make to other circumstances in order to test them to see if they will be true or not.

And I stand of what I say, he was able to beat most of his opponents with just his basic Genjutsu's, and they were all strong as hell.. someone like Orochimaru or Deidara aren't regular Shinobi's at all..

Wow kurenai gets out of his genjutsu and that was just through pain. post timeskip Naruto partially gets out of itachi's genjutsu. It is stated that excellent chakra control allows you to break out of genjutsu. Naruto has magnificent chakra control. Itachi's basic genjutsu will be broken out of.

So you are pretty much saying that if itachi fights someone like nagato, who is not as good as him in genjutsu, then nagato will instantly get beaten by basic genjutsu?

He didn't want to kill anyone back then, he may have simply stopped it so she would dodge his next attack.. he also stopped his Tsukuyomi so Kakashi can see the daylight again..

No, I'm not saying that Itachi can beat Nagato with just his basic Genjutsu's, but he has like 80% of beating him that way.. since Nagato's weakness is Genjutsu (only..)

 

[~MC117~]

What is this shit!!!.
Sage mode has been in two fights. Jiraiya vs pein and naruto vs pein and it both the users got defeated. Demon mode is what saved naruto, otherwise he was captured.

Sage mode is overrated, it still hasnt won a fight yet.

Itachi is the clear winner hear

Why do you get mad and start cursing when someone says that itachi would lose in a fight.Wow fanboys.... SMH U_U
SM hasn't won any fight yet?? he beat kyuubi and 3rd raikage mmm...

 

[~MC117~]

I think itachi would win if he is not sick or he is edo tensei, if he is alive and sick he would lose badly.

 

[Mercury]

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[lanakau888]

Why would you think making many clones can make the user weaker? each clone has it's own mind and thinking, although Naruto controls their movements being the main one.. for example, Naruto created many Sage Mode clones in this war, it did take his Chakra out but it didn't make him weaker by any means..

Go back and look at the state naruto is in when he arrives at the kakuzu fight.

Also, when he fought Itachi for the 3rd time, he could've used like 10 more clones or so to beat him like he did to Kakuzu, right? he knew that his clones wont work on him, that's why he didn't bother making any and charged on him instead..

I have never ever stated that naruto could have beaten itachi before sage mode.

All we've seen so far Naruto being unable to get out of his basic Genjutsu's, so I don't think being in Sage Mode will change that fact..

not being in sage mode, but having the chakra control to master sage mode on a higher level than jiraiya did, the same guy who itachi said would have stalemated him.

And I stand of what I say, he was able to beat most of his opponents with just his basic Genjutsu's, and they were all strong as hell.. someone like Orochimaru or Deidara aren't regular Shinobi's at all..

This would include nagato, since he got beaten by frog genjutsu. So what you are saying in that an itachi vs nagato match itachi would win instantly without any difficulty.
Go make a thread and see where that gets you.

He didn't want to kill anyone back then, he may have simply stopped it so she would dodge his next attack.. he also stopped his Tsukuyomi so Kakashi can see the daylight again..

So we can extrapolate itachi's feats as high as we want since he was actually a good guy. Get real.

No, I'm not saying that Itachi can beat Nagato with just his basic Genjutsu's, but he has like 80% of beating him that way.. since Nagato's weakness is Genjutsu (only..)

No you specifically said genjutsu can only be beaten by someone who is equally good at genjutsu. So the battle starts and itachi just uses the same jutsu he used on orochimaru to instantly get nagato in genjutsu, then itachi beats him. The end, itachi wins no difficulty.

If you make a statement you take everything that comes with it, including things that make absolute nonsense.

 

[arv993]

Nope using a clone has nothing to do with chakra control. Naruto simply has a hard time doing all three of the steps of the rasengan at the same time.

So answer me, can itachi one-shot jiraiya with no difficulty? Cuz the last time I checked he said a stalemate was the only thing he could hope for.

that pretty much means he does not have good chakra control dude he never did, that is one of the reasons he had to come up with creative ways to beat it by using clones and etc. look at all others even kakashi he can do rasengan without a clone and can just create it naruto cannot his chakra control has gotten better but nowhere has it been stated to being amazing and spectacular.

Itachi one shotting jiraya is questionable tsukiyomi can do it, jiraya has specific defenses(which he was teaching naruto but he did not perfect it) for genjutsu which is better than naruto especially since he has ma and pa to break him out. But naruto does not have that, he has not shown anything to break genjutsu of that lvl his chakra control is not amazing by any means and just becos u have good chakra control is not an auto-genjutsu pass, kakashi has good chakra control yet he was caught in regular genjutsu by itachi so naruto can too i don't see him having much defenses for it.

 

[lanakau888]

that pretty much means he does not have good chakra control dude he never did, that is one of the reasons he had to come up with creative ways to beat it by using clones and etc. look at all others even kakashi he can do rasengan without a clone and can just create it naruto cannot his chakra control has gotten better but nowhere has it been stated to being amazing and spectacular.

Itachi one shotting jiraya is questionable tsukiyomi can do it, jiraya has specific defenses(which he was teaching naruto but he did not perfect it) for genjutsu which is better than naruto especially since he has ma and pa to break him out. But naruto does not have that, he has not shown anything to break genjutsu of that lvl his chakra control is not amazing by any means and just becos u have good chakra control is not an auto-genjutsu pass,

kakashi has good chakra control yet he was caught in regular genjutsu by itachi so naruto can too i don't see him having much defenses for it.

And when did this happen?


Once again, naruto balances sage mode way better than jiraiya does. Naruto's chakra control is better than jiraiya's.

If itachi can instantly one-shot jiraiya with non-sharingan genjutsu, then sure I will concede that he beats naruto instantly.

 

[lanakau888]

So rovian, tell me exactly how itachi would beat naruto

 

[Mercury]

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[arv993]

And when did this happen?


Once again, naruto balances sage mode way better than jiraiya does. Naruto's chakra control is better than jiraiya's.

If itachi can instantly one-shot jiraiya with non-sharingan genjutsu, then sure I will concede that he beats naruto instantly.

it was 30 percent chakra itachi who got him genjutsu. i hope u can remember cos its so far back that its annoying to look for a link. dude naruto can use clones since he knos genjutsu of itachi it won't be a one shot but itachi can also see naruto's clones but that won't help him for long since he does not have the advantage in speed like KM.

chakra control is not everything they have to be trained(like jiraya was training naruto to dispell one) in dispelling genjutsu and even itachi's regular genjutsu(non mangekyou) is hard even for high lvl sannin members like oro, he got kakashi in one, no reason naruto can't get in it seeing his genjutsu dispelling skills are not great and his chakra control is not perfect by any means either. and oro got in a non-eye contact one look at this

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[arv993]

yo peace lanakau888 i have to go now so i can't respond for a while.

 

[lanakau888]

it was 30 percent chakra itachi who got him genjutsu. i hope u can remember cos its so far back that its annoying to look for a link.

If got kakashi's CLONE in genjutsu, and the clone was completely unnaffected by it. Now what does naruto specialize in again? Genjutsu does not affect clones, and naruto will have over 20 sage clones coming at itachi, all with more speed and invisible punches that have enough power to kill him or injure him badly. And I'm not even bringing rasengan's into the picture.

dude naruto can use clones since he knos genjutsu of itachi it won't be a one shot but itachi can also see naruto's clones but that won't help him for long since he does not have the advantage in speed like KM.

How will it not be a one-shot. You said naruto can't get out of itachi's genjutsu. So according to you, battle starts, itachi somehow gets naruto into genjutsu despite naruto knowing not to look into his eyes or at his finger. Itachi wins with no difficulty.

 

[Scotch]

I don't want to sound like a fanboy and i don't like the uchiha but

itachi can point a finger at naruto and naruto will kill himself.