Reincarnation or REINCARNATIONS of the SO6P????

[Almighty Ra]

Awesome work and theory

 

[projecttsukinome]

Man, u have missed a very vital point..It is just a theory, a speculation.. It need not be true..I am not Kishimoto himself..If my theory is proved to be correct, i will be very happy and if it is proved false, I would gladly accept it!

 

[villain55]

Well planed out theory i agree that obito v.s naruto final battle.
They shared the same dreams
Always underestimated

Good job man i really like it

 

[Inichi Matsuka]

When it comes to reincarnation, one person can only be reincarnated to one person. but your points were well made

Well, you don't know that. In this case, he was saying that the sage himself represented both Yin and Yang. Rather, being the embodiment of both. However they were split, just like his sons. It does make sense, considering how Obito is basically a "failed" Naruto.

OT: Once again, really nice work! Sorry I took so long to get around to reading; I've been rather busy today c:
You made some really valid points, and brought together your theory perfectly! 5/5 Great Job!

 

[projecttsukinome]

Well then lets get started. Firstly I want to say that I consider this and all 3 of your theories to be a sham, but I think that goes without saying. But let me tackle each of the arguments you raise in regards to my post which is going to be short as you do very little to reply to what I said other than saying "Didnt you read" "Insert another evasive statement"

1) Ok, sorry i was wrong about Nagato not being able to summon gedo, to be honest that was just a speculation. A speculation that has nothing to do with ANYTHING. You said that Madara wanted Obito because he knew Obito could summon Gedo without the Rinnegan, and I said you dont need to Rinnegan to summon gedo all you need is Uchiha and Senju DNA. And THEN I threw out the who Nagato thing as a SIDE NOTE, in your reply you do nothing to counter what I said rather you go after the SIDE NOTE!!

2) Firstly if you had read the manga you would know that Madara didnt create Black Zetsu up until AFTER he met Obito. Lastly you reply to my statement about "All Obito did" by telling me to read the Manga. This is INCREDIBLY evasive and does nothing to answer my question. And since you could not answer it I will assume you dont have to answer, just because you want to yell and try to demean me doesnt make you right. Talking as though you are superior does not impress me, I am impressed by people who prove to me that they know there stuff, you have not done this.

3) You never answer my question, you dont even try to, rather you bring up some argument I had with someone else about orochimaru as if it means anything. The reason I didnt reply again to your first thread was because it was non sense, this is the same reason I didnt bother replying to your 2nd a 2nd time either. I am only paying you this kindness because I feel if I dont you will only sink further into this charade.

4) I read your theory, all of it, and even went back to read it again, I just forgot to change the first part which I had typed before hand. But again you do nothing to answer my question, all you say is "Read my Theory again." Well i have done so and stick with my question, will you answer it now?

5) You state I am making a fool of myself, anyone who has read your reply will know who here is the fool. If you want to provide evidence of your theory then i believe you would have. But instead of doing so you stick with an almighty persona . I take it that you chose not to prove your case because you cannot.

6) You didnt PROVE anything, I dont understand how you have the audacity to say you did. All you did was talk down to me and tell me to go read this or go read that. I am not interseted in finding your answer for you, contact me when you actually have answers to my questions, until then dont waste my time.

You even say he has a habit of playing with his food? to the point that he would allow his enemy the chance to kill him multiple times?... Im not even going to humor that statement with a response.


This is sort of sad, I would create a debunked thread if I actually thought you were serious, instead I think you are trolling me right now and I refuse to feed trolls. Perhaps you have let all the comments telling you "Good job" and "Nice theory" go to your head. I would like to point you to a thread created by someone else that was incredibly inaccurate [

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] and although it was wrong it too got ALOT of comments saying "Good job" and "Nice thread". It is my thought that most of the people on this site dont really follow the manga as much as they should. Granted me and AfricanProd are on good terms, but his thread was wrong.

Lastly I am debating whether or not to even check up on your reply, if you even bother to make one, because I really am not interested in it. It would be like me arguing with a kid, I get nothing from it and it only serves to waste my time, debating people i do not respect seems pointless to me. Ill tell you what, ill check up for your reply and if the starts off well I will read the whole thing, if it doesnt I wont even bother reading it not to mention replying to it.

It do seems that i will have to explain my every points which can be easily pointed out from my theory or from the manga.

When you say Madara would not entrust his will to some brat you make it seem like he had all the options in the world. Obito happeneed to be in the right place at the right time and Madara used it to his advantage. After repairing his body Obito was dependant on Spiral Zetsu to be able to move, if Obito had refused Madara's Proposal Madara would have likely killed him and used Black Zetsu to do his bidding. But since Obito was there he used him instead. Obiti really didnt do anything, all he did was put together the Akatsuki, have them hunt the tailed beasts, get Nagato to revive Madara, and thats it.

2. First of all you don't seem to acknowledge Obito at all and perhaps doesn't accept him to be the main antagonist. Now how would you like him? If from the beginning he came out in public, had some expression suiting some villain?. Now as for Madara he already gave his eye to Nagato. Now you would only give your Rinnegan to someone if you believe he was your successor and he would carry your will. Now this was the plan. Now after meeting Obito it seems he changed his plans a bit too hastily. Surely a man who has waited that many years could wait a little longer. Then what made him to change his plans?This led me to believe that Obito was special even to Madara. And as for his actions, if you can be of that level of a manipulator, does it require to do the work himself. He manipulated Nagato, a God himself. I think this explains my point.

You never explain how the SO6P's chakra could have ended up inside of Obito.

3.This is just a speculation. I cannot point out exactly how he got SO6P's chakra. But as you can see, he is from the Uchiha clan, a direct discendent from the Elder Son. And his doujutsu is pretty much rare. With just one eye, he is able to do various things. First of all Kamui, then genjutsu(so powerful that it can control a perfect Jinchuriki),a genjutsu that can actually kill people, a genjutsu that can control your mind(Read the recent chapter,here you can see how Obito forced Kakashi to stab him because Kakashi's hand was down and he couldn't bring himself to kill his best friend). All these powers with one eye? Oh, I forgot to mention, he is the second person in the history to control the Kurama and he did that with normal Sharingan, where it was said that the ultimate achievement of the MS is to control the Kyubi. And Madara himself did it with EMS.

I think I have made myself clear from where i have got this particular speculation.

You say Obito must have SO6P Chakra since he didnt fall to his knees and throw away his plans after being scared by Naruto? Seems Legit... BTW the change he saw in Naruto was the fact that the other 7 Bijuu had given him part of there chakra thus making him alot stronger. [1][2][3].

4. Well this was pretty obvious isn't it. He controlled the Mazou. He had distinct idea how all the tailed beasts chakra would look like if they were gathered. now I am providing you the scan that i had provided with my theory...

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Does it bring any sense? Or at this point i am to explain the scan?

Obito couldnt use the Preta path because doing so what drain him of too much chakra or even kill him. [1][2]. Even further in the battle he takes a tailed beast Rasengan to the face when he could have easily absorbed the jutsu with Preta. [3]

5. Again I am providing you a scan that I had already given in my theory...

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Now will you bother to explain where did Kakashi's chakra cloak go the moment Obito touched Kakashi?? And if you are arguing it's Mukoton, I would say , Mukoton this fast??

Lastly your entire theory rests on 3 assumptions.

The first being that Obito is somehow a part of the SO6P's will, you never explain how or why this is. You make some claims but i have already shown all of them to either be conjecture or non conclusive.

Secondly you make the assumption that Obito has some GRAND power that he is hiding for when Naruto reveals his grand power? What is all the waiting for? He has not only almost died on several occasiions not to mention kakashi could have killed him [1]. So exactly how many times is he going to risk his life before he reveals this power?

Thirdly you assume that the SO6P comes into play at ALL. I dont think he does, not even in the slightest. He has been refered to throughout the series but I dont think he has any kind of hand or plan in what is going on right now. Clashing of the 2 wills of the SO6P? What two wills? We hardly even know there is a single will and yet now there are 2 will that are apparently clashing.

6. Now as I have exactly countered all your counter arguments I would like to say these speculations are drawn from my two earlier threads. You will have to go through them where I have clearly pointed out the Yin and Yang part of the SO6P's will.
And as for Obito, what type of character is he do you think? If you observe his battles do you think he fights seriously. And as for life threatening condition, he has no heart, he does not feel pain. Now will you suggest how are you seeing him die??

And as for the involvement of the SO6P I am again providing you the scan I have already provided with my theory.

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Sorry I think I was rather heated last time and if it offended you then I am making an apology. What I have got to say from my part that this is a theory, a speculation, it may be the truth or not. Well if it's the truth I will be really happy and if it's false I will gladly accept it.

I would like to ask you something, before making any criticism at least ask yourself once - the points I am pointing out, are they relevant to the theory or are they valid? Then again everyone is living by their own assumption.

 

[- Їиfєяио -]

GREAT THEORY ​

 

[naruttebayo]

nice work but i suggest use spoiler next time

 

[zubiamirza]

its just as i pridicted,the final is obito VS naruto
nice thread good job

 

[Excālibur1]

Great Theory!! It may be correct..

 

[zubiamirza]

Nice theory,i really like it !,hehe

 

[Avonomemi]

Very informative
Nice job
Tho I still think obito is just bin a hypocrite n forcing a destiny dat not meant fr him on himself (pity)

 

[darkprince]

great theory.
there are possibilities that it can be true.

 

[Foxeon]

Nice theory, i like the idea of Naruto vs Obito finale.

However, i believe that Sauske is not entirely became "good", the change was too fast. I still believe there will be a Naruto vs Sauske fight also :/

 

[lordmadarauchiha]

Dude you're so observant i like it

 

[Nakamazi Itchigo]

A very plausible theory, nicely done bro

 

[Horus]

Interesting Theory.
You are getting better at it
But in the Future, some spoiler tags would help

 

[AngelicYami]

I agree with your points.

 

[gjpaixao13]

Wow nice theory!!
But I have the feeling that this young man will be sasuke...Perhaps he's lying to the Kages and will ally with Madara and Obito, so the Uchicha can be restored in the dreamland.
I agree with you that Obito still has a major role to play in the end.

 

[2big]

idk i feel like naruto would have to be the sage and sasuke the juubi in order for them to fight other wise sasuke is gonna die in 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 seconds

 

[uchihamad]

Nice theory =D=D