Reincarnation or REINCARNATIONS of the SO6P????

[projecttsukinome]

Basically what I'm about to say is based on my two earlier threads, 'Era before the SO6P - wrapped in eternal genjutsu?????(

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What we can see from my earlier threads that the SO6P had two beliefs, at first he believed in mutual understanding, but then he had to admit to the fact that true peace is not possible in this world...

Now let us take a tour through the timeline of the Narutoverse. We will begin with Uchiha Madara. He was the first one after the SO6P to activate the Rinnegan. He at first approved the concept of village, then realization hit him.

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As we all know by now, Madara planted his eyes,the Rinnegan into Nagato as a child. Now, what does this signify? Only to use the Gedou Rinne Tensei no jutsu on him? Or was he planning to entrust his will to Nagato,waiting for him to grow up? I think Madara had both these in his mind. One thing we know for sure, at that point of time Madara did not include Obito in his plans. He didn't expect a half crushed Uchiha kid to present himself before his 'eye'(As he had one Sharingan at that time =D).

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Here I will make note of some points.

1. What was so special about Obito that Madara had to reformulate his plans? Someone like Madara would not entrust his will to some random brat. Was it simply because of the Kamui? If he was so interested in his eye only, he could have simply taken it. What was he doing in the cave in the first place? Simply killing time? Was he at all enjoying his pathetic state? It seems he was hellbent on passing down his will to Obito. He hadn't given up hope even after Obito's rejection of his notion.

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Madara himself said that Obito could control the Gedou Mazou even without the Rinnegan itself! And why Madara even bothered to teach Obito Rikudou's jutsu when in the first place Obito didn't have any Rinnegan and moreover had only one eye?

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Did he sense the SO6P's chakra in Obito?(Remember Madara was connected with the Gedou Mazou and the Mazou must have had the sage's chakra signature).

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Here we can see how the Juubi reacted on sensing the SO6P's chakra in Naruto.


2. In the scan below, what was Obito sensing that even Madara, after coming to the battlefield couldn't?

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See the nine tomaes around Naruto, it's same as the Sage's outfit.

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I think he sensed the Sage inside Naruto and everyone in the Narutoverse is aware of the power of the SO6P. But still Obito brushed the thought aside. Now when such confidence can stem? If he also shares the same power as Naruto.


3.The Sage's way of doing things is very much symbolic. His actions lead me to believe he is the living embodiment of the Yin-Yang. He believed peace can be obtained through mutual understanding,yet he passed down the Uchiha stone tablet. He divided the Juubi's chakra into nine parts and yet left a way to resurrect the Juubi.

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A. In the first scan, we can see that the SO6P told that the complete revival of the Juubi will signal the end of the planet.

B. Yet again, that same person hoped that one day all the Tailed Beasts would be united again. It's interesting to see that the Sage indeed had regret.That's why he said this -

And unlike when you were within me you will be led down the right path

And as the Sage envisioned these two predictions can only become truthful if and only if there are two Juubis viz A refers to the Juubi on the battlefield and B refers to Naruto.

4. Now lets return to the battle field and view the match-ups. Most likely Madara will be engaged by Hashirama and Tobirama. Now Naruto has shown obvious signs that that he will be the SO6P and will soon get a huge power up. Obviously then Naruto will engage the Juubi and defeat it. Now what remains - Obito vs. the whole battlefield?? Now many of you already know that Kishimoto himself stated in an interview that there will be a special fight in the end. Did it ring any bells?? Also we have seen Obito not using the Rinnegan in it's true potential. All that was known about his capability of using the Rinnegan was the linked eyed vision and his ability of the Gedou Rinne Tensei no jutsu.

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I think he used the Preta path to absorb the Kurama's chakra cloak from Kakashi. Moreover he himself mentioned he can use the Ningendo's technique.

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So basically I think that he is just storing chakra otherwise why has he used it only once in the battle? Something big is about to come! Till now he has not shown his true power. What is he waiting for?


5. Last but not the least, everyone remember the Toad Sage's prophecy?

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Who was this young man with power in his eyes? Looking at the current scenario Obito is the only young man as his opponent. Now if Naruto is the SO6P, then to make the battle even Obito has to be the another reincarnation of the SO6P. And it's basically possible - the clash between the Sage's two wills(Symbolizing the Yin and the Yang). And Madara also stated that Obito was the savior of this world.

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I hope I have explained why Naruto and Obito are two reincarnations of the SO6P.


From what has been seen till now, both(Naruto and Obito) want peace but in different way. Naruto and obito are just two faces of a single coin, each carrying with them a part of the SO6P's will. Now time will tell us which part of the will prevails??

I would like to introduce an interesting picture in this regard which is Kishimoto's self portrait.

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Doesn't this picture remind you of someone?

 

[kral]

Great work and maybe you are correct!

 

[jvega]

When it comes to reincarnation, one person can only be reincarnated to one person. but your points were well made

 

[Kuriboh]

maybe obito was ideal for the task since he was an uchiha that was supposed to be dead and maybe madara saw that obito could be easily manipulated with the death of rin or someone close to him. It also seems more like that naruto and obito are the same characters but shows how one can be corrupted with the wrong circumstances in obito's place

 

[Shura]

Hmm. Interesting theory.

It would be kinda cool if Obito was the reincarnation of the Sage as well. :yeah:

 

[KingHashirama]

Closest reincarnations of the Sage would be the Shodai, and Naruto together.

 

[S A G E]

This thread is a good read and very well supported. Good job
I really think obito might be the final villain because he was hypped to be like naruto and he has too many abilities to match naruto. Also he called himself as the next coming of the sage of six paths

 

[foxyladyland]

When it comes to reincarnation, one person can only be reincarnated to one person. but your points were well made

well this is NarutoverseManga where people could split their souls in two..

example Orochimaru's arms in the shinigami..

 

[Frikid]

interesting theory but i feel naruto and sasuke are reincarnation of so6p and they both will combine their powers and reach so6p level.

 

[NarutoKage2]

Good theory, naruto and obito facing off in an ultimate showdown seems to be an ever greater possibility what with Sasuke turning good and all. Btw, i think obito was uncomfortable there as he was reminded of himself as naruto has many similar personality traits to the old obito.

The next sage will probably be one person, as opposed to two. The destined child is supposed to be the savior, rather than the destroyer of this world.

 

[NagazuDead]

Very good theory bro! But i think Madara transplanted the Rinnegans into Nagato to make sure he can revive Madara later (he was so old) and Madara took Obito because he had the strength and power + his eyes.

 

[Domo Genesis]

Holy f*** nice theory

 

[luly]

It's really great theory well done
But as always kishi will surprise us by something un ecspected
But I really hope what you said can be true couz it's really nice and possible

 

[Hori]

interesting super long thread I had fun reading manga again lol.... anycase you'veprovided enough information at such I've lost the will to go against you

 

[avenged sevenfold]

Its a well made well thought out theory. It sounds accurate and very plausible. One of the most accurate threads I've read as to why naruto (and now obito) is the reincarnation of the sage of the six paths. Plus rep

 

[projecttsukinome]

interesting super long thread I had fun reading manga again lol.... anycase you'veprovided enough information at such I've lost the will to go against you

I am sorry that I couldn't make it shorter.. But with this magnitude of a topic, I have given all what I felt was necessary..Anyway glad that you enjoyed it!

 

[Katkot]

The so6p will return again. That's interesting =D

 

[pandu]

Great work bro =D
You really are getting good at making theories U_U

 

[KCMNaruto]

Awesome research and connecting facts which occured in manga =D, but you make one mistake in your theory:

You said that Madara was capable of summoning Juubi shell(Gedo Mazou) without Rinnengan - wrong !

Madara only said that having Senjuu and Uchiha DNA even without Rinnengan allows you to control Gedo Mazou(Juubi shell)

However nowhere he stated that Senjuu DNA and Uchiha DNA are enough to summon Gedo Mazou(Juubi shell)

Here:

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Left bottom panel, Madara said that when his span was almost over he awakened Rinnengan

You can say that it doesn't matter to this topic, but I assure you it matter when we look here:

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Two top panels, in first from right side Madara said "At the same time, that also allowed me to break certain seal"

Keyword is At the same time

and in left top panel, Madara continue speaking: "I was able to summon... The empty Shell of The Juubi from The Stone it was sealed into"

In other words Madara was able to summon Gedo Mazou only thanks to Rinnengan.

Obito being capable of controlling Gedo Mazou before Rinnengan:

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This was always beothering me how Obito(Tobi back then) was able to control Gedo Mazou(leading sealing process) without Pein(who was busy attacking Konoha in search for Naruto). Now I understand that Obito had Senjuu and Uchiha DNA already in this panel, that why...

in short:

Rinnengan- ability to summon and control Gedo Mazou

Senjuu and Uchiha DNA in one body - ability only to control Gedo Mazou

So I said well constructed theory with great manga facts to support it, but I don't like this idea personally

I would like for be only one Sage of six paths reincarantion- that Naruto

 

[Sunagura]

sorry i couldn't read all of that, i'm lazy
but i have read some of the comment and the seems like it. And really good for you to have done that. i do read a little of it. nice theory. great work. and i'm sorry i couldn't read all of it. really.