Rasen-shuriken clashes with Kirin

[KingHashirama]

Rasenshuriken. Wind solos all.

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[benzy]

Dafuq i am reading ? Fuuton > Raiton that is all.

 

[paratise]

Wind > lightning?
That's not a logic that can be used when a jutsu simply overpowers the other.

Do you think Kakashi's doton wall would be enough for blocking Mei's suiton or Kisame's 1000 feeding sharks, part 1 Temari's CE fuuton would put a dent on 3rd raikages's lightning armor or Kakashi's sution can put down the whole juubi-sized katon of Madara? What's next, Hinata > Gai just because jyuuken is said to be the strongest taijutsu in leaf?

Kirin > FRS in base

 

[Turson]

If anyone here doesn't even know the difference between Raw Lightening and Lightening Release then He/she should log off for good. Kirin is pure Lightening. It blows Naruto to bits along with his measly Rasanshuriken. It literally blew apart an entire hill. Lol @ this base.

Even if Kirin was normal Raiton technique it wouldnt change a thing. Its power is just too big compared to FRS, so Fuuton > Raiton rule is meaningless here. Its like saying that you could save burning house with few buckets of water.

 

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these sausage fanboys Fuuton > Raiton
ot: nice going restricting FRS to normal chakra while using a natural energy jutsu for sasuke.you know when something is weaker when someone has to apply a restriction. but FRS fodderize sasuke before he can even get to prep kirin.

 

[Turson]

these sausage fanboys Fuuton > Raiton

Actually, I like both Naruto and Sasuke, Kirin is just technique of different calliber than FRS.

 

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Actually, I like both Naruto and Sasuke, Kirin is just technique of different calliber than FRS.

OT said current naruto which is BSM naruto then restricted FRS to the original base Form how is that a Fair Comparsion?
Sage Art : Rasenshuriken is enough for kirin.

 

[Turson]

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-> Look at this. Kakuzu powered up his Katon with Fuuton, so the flames were strong enough to break through Kakashis Suiton. It would be the same with Kirin and FRS, only Kirin does not have to be amplified by anything, since its already on different level than FRS.

 

[reject101]

Not in Sasuke's case, Sauske has always been >= to naruto in a clash with wind and lightning.

Naruto has never used a wind attack against Sasuke, so you can't say that. He only ever used his normal rasengan against chidori, and they generally cancell each other out most times.

 

[shelke]

@Turson

Yeah, I definitely agree. It was shown on another occasion with Madara and his Fire Destruction technique. It took several Suiton attacks from several Ninjas to stop it in its tracks. But that was Fire / Katon Release, This is Natural Lightening not Lightening / Raiton Release. This distinction is far more important here. FRS, whether it's in Sage or other form is nothing doing anything to Kirin.

 

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-> Look at this. Kakuzu powered up his Katon with Fuuton, so the flames were strong enough to break through Kakashis Suiton. It would be the same with Kirin and FRS, only Kirin does not have to be amplified by anything, since its already on different level than FRS.

i apologize my good sir U_U

 

[SoundBar]

Can somebody explain to me the difference between chakra lightning and natural lightning, because lightning is fukking lightning, quit saying one is stronger than the other unless you have proof, and the only reason Kirin is stronger than Justus based lightning is because no one has enough chakra to generate that much lightning, so yea, explain or stfu

op: wind > lightning/natural lightning

 

[Smd]

kirin should be the correct answer.

Not only is it faster but its stronger.

 

[SoundBar]

FRS should be the correct answer.

Not only is it better but its stronger.

Fixed it for ya, smdh women

 

[Multiply]

Well actually it does work that way when comparing elemental factors. Fuuton is superior to Raiton.

If you said you saw a lot of our arguments, why did you only list one? You said a, a lot of your arguments was...". Arguments were is the correct way to say it. If you intend to base a counter thread on one point, you should rephrase it to, "the primary argument used was..."

Please refrain from generalizing people who oppose you as "those who dislike Sasuke." Contrary to your opinion, I like Sasuke. I respect his character. Wasn't a fan of his blind revenge... But that's what made him Sasuke.

Anyways...


1. The rasenshuriken is a superior element when the two clash.

2. The premise of the previous thread was basically what happens when A and B collide., and thus speed is irrelevant.

3. Kirin is mostly comprised of natural lighting with little chakra: meaning the rasenshuriken is a greater volume of chakra and elementary superior (the two requirements in determining which one wins).

4. Based on hear say manga wise, elements naturally reflect their jutsu counterparts: Kakashi could cut lighting with Raikiri. Had the jutsu been unable to interact: Kakashi would be a smouldering corpse. Thus: Fuuton > Natural lightning.

5. Additionally, the Rasenshuriken is technically complete only on Sage Mode: thus has the benefit of Natural Energy.

6. Since the Rasenshuriken is a jutsu that focuses on a specific area, it would create an umbrella effect which would protect Naruto. The parts of Kirin that aren't touched would strike around him in a comparable measure to Itachi vs Kirin. Except the Rasenshuriken user wouldn't be on the ground.

7. Had you wanted to count speed is a factor, the amount of rasenshuriken's that can be fired off before Kirin is even ready is far greater considering it took fire dragon bullets plus an extreme burning of Amaterasu (sun hot flames) to kick start a storm. So really despite the fast fire time when fired. The charge makes it inefficient.



The Rasenshuriken is more efficient and overall better than Kirin.

Courtesy of KGB Kakuzu...

 

[grenwood]

Except Kirin is pure lightning so chakra natures don't apply to it.

kakashi cut through a bolt of natural lightning using raikiri.
FRS>raikiri.
FRS>natural lighting.
kirin= natural lighting
FRS>kirin

or

weak itachi>kirin

normal oodama rasengan> weak itachi

normal oodama rasengan>kirin



EDIT:

You, you lack the understanding to know that susanoo is way stronger than any frs. Don't forget itching has the yata mirror smart one.

it seems itachi has a new nickname.

 

[shelke]

So now we have a comparison of a single bolt of Electrical Discharge versus something that blew apart a mountain top? Even in real life, people have survived from being hi with Lightening bolts. There is a famous incident of one hitting on a soccer field. Nothing happened to anyone.

 

[grenwood]

So now we have a comparison of a single bolt of Electrical Discharge versus something that blew apart a mountain top? Even in real life, people have survived from being hi with Lightening bolts. There is a famous incident of one hitting on a soccer field. Nothing happened to anyone.

i know people have been hit with multiple lightning bolts. plus, lightning in real life cant even harm any major building. there should be a jutsu in naruto to make a lightning rod that transforms natural lightning into chackra

 

[shelke]

^ Which should tell you something about Kirin ...

 

[grenwood]

also like i said in one of my previous posts, kakashi cut through natural lighting with raikiri. so chakra based lightning attacks are capable of beating natural lightning, which means wind based attacks should have no problem. however simply because of the fact that its sasuke vs naruto, it will probably be a tie between oodama FRS and kirin. but thats because of plot, logically even normal FRS should be able to beat kirin, especially if naruto controlled it with a chakra arm and hit kirin from the side in order to cut through it. logically the only thing that could stop even a normal FRS from beating kirin is the speed at which naruto could form FRS, its questionable if he could form it before kirin strikes, but again due to plot he will have his best version of wind rasengan formed with plenty of time to spare.