Rasen-shuriken clashes with Kirin

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  • RasenShuriken

    Votes: 29 59.2%
  • Kirin

    Votes: 20 40.8%

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Kirin isn't just regular chidori, if the normal version is >= rasengan then the other version will be the same.

if were just gonna go with linear growth then
chidori/raikiri =rasengan
then chidori/raikiri < fuuton rasengan
kirin > fuuton rasengan
kirin < fuuton rasenshuriken
but its not linear so it dosnt matter :p
 

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Having Sage mode markings AND adding Sage chakra to the jutsu are two different things.

Ya I know that but if Naruto has sage mode markings, it certainly leaves a room for suspicion..:yeah:
I think we should stay on topic..:p
Basically my point is if two jutsus collide sheer destructive power plays a big role there. Rasenshuriken causes most of it's damage due to affecting the opponent to the cellular level, Kirin doesn't do that and that's why I said earlier that RS harms opponent more than Kirin.
But when it comes to clash of jutsus, Kirin dominates and reason is it is natural lightning directed by Raiton user without large amount of use of chakra and has higher amount of destructive power(compared to 'basic' Rasenshuriken, no sage mode..)
 
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Ya I know that but if Naruto has sage mode markings, it certainly leaves a room for suspicion..:yeah:
I think we should stay on topic..:p

Yup, by the way, I did some modifications in the topic =D
 

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It obviously happened in the anime and manga :facepalm:
Sasuke used regular chidori. Your point?
Its weaker as a nature type...but you are going off a say so but ignore the result of a true clash itself. Seriously people.

No, if that's true naruto with the fox chakra cloak and his rasengan would have beat sasuke's black chidori, when they clashed at the water fall below, and the bridge. It didn't, stop going off what it said and actually take the information from the actual results :)

1. My point: regular rasengan and regular chidori clashed. Had nothing to do with elements.

2. Naruto with Kurama's chakra and Sasuke with Orochimaru's experimental chakra clashed. No elements other than lightning come onto play.


Honestly by the argument you're using Chidori <= Regular chakra attacks.

Rasengan =/= a Fuuton Jutsu.
 

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speed and concentrated power from kirin make it more stronger than RS
 

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Ya I know that but if Naruto has sage mode markings, it certainly leaves a room for suspicion..:yeah:
I think we should stay on topic..:p
Basically my point is if two jutsus collide sheer destructive power plays a big role there. Rasenshuriken causes most of it's damage due to affecting the opponent to the cellular level, Kirin doesn't do that and that's why I said earlier that RS harms opponent more than Kirin.
But when it comes to clash of jutsus, Kirin dominates and reason is it is natural lightning directed by Raiton user without large amount of use of chakra and has higher amount of destructive power(compared to 'basic' Rasenshuriken, no sage mode..)

agreed........... ;)
 

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how?
Naruto wasn't using sage mode when he created Mini-Rasenshuriken. Also he threw it.

hmmmm true enough i guess i just figured kuramas chakra and the smaller size let him throw it, do to ma and pas comments on him throwing something as large and dense as the regular one.
my bad thanks for correcting me :D
 

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hmmmm true enough i guess i just figured kuramas chakra and the smaller size let him throw it, do to ma and pas comments on him throwing something as large and dense as the regular one.
my bad thanks for correcting me :D

its neither because of Kyuubi's chakra or Sage chakra.
if we consider RS thrown during Pain's arc, we say that it's because of Sage chakra
if we consider RS thrown in KC mode, we say it's because of Kyuubi chakra
But if both the conclusions are wrong then we can say that Naruto managed to learn how to throw a RasenShuriken. :hint:
 

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Well it was one of my longest volleys but it was nice to debate with you, sir, I saw very few people who stayon the topic, and discuss things logically..:)

this is my first discussion thread to last this long after one of my prediction thread =D
 

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wind is sronger than lightning and rasenshuriken > kirin....!
anyway even if we neglect wind and lightning, i'd still go for rasenshuriken...!
 

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if you are making argument on the RS vs Kirin including Naruto then Naruto has to be in Sage mode. SM Naruto can evade the attack as soon as the Kirin appears out of the clouds.

More than 1/1000 of a second speed? Yeah, good luck with that. Lol
 

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Kirin > Any Wind Jutsu in destructive force.

Remember, Kirin isn't Chakra Lightning. It's real, natural lightning.
 

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Well Futon > Raiton, FRS its chakra can be controlled and can be fired many times needed so FRS>Kirin
 

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Already stated in the Manga wind beats Lightning, you can change a Manga Fact. Lightning requires a cloud change with electricity that Sasuke using His chakra can directed to a target,it's slow to gather and can essay for a strong Wind to disperse. Clouds disperse no lightning strike can occur. Have any droughts go to the Weather Channel for explanations.

Yeah, because FRS has been shown to travel several Thousand feet into the air, completely dissipating any cloud Over-head, especially Cumulonimbus, whose original cone easily exceeds 10,000 feet on average. Not to mention the powerful downward draft from right under the cloud - Micro-burst - would decimate FRS before it even has hopes of touching the cloud itself or direct it back to the ground. That is if FRS even (vastly) hypothetically makes it any where near it.

LOL Naruto fanboys.
 

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Yeah, because FRS has been shown to travel several Thousand feet into the air, completely dissipating any cloud Over-head, especially Cumulonimbus, whose original cone easily exceeds 10,000 feet on average. Not to mention the powerful downward draft from right under the cloud - Micro-burst - would decimate FRS before it even has hopes of touching the cloud itself or direct it back to the ground. That is if FRS even (vastly) hypothetically makes it any where near it.

LOL Naruto fanboys.

>Says bold
>Just tried to use logic in Naruto...

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shelke please spare these fodder debaters.

hey aren't worth it.

ot: Kirin > FRS
 
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