PS stabilized is not possibly without Rinnegan.

[RedRobin]

I am aware of that. But if you look at the kurama/PS combination Madara did, it has far more similarities appearance wise with the "stabilized" version than the unstabilized version. Plus the fact that the sword was capable of wiping out mountains(even without using the 9 tails bijuudama to help) when no other version(other than the stabilized form) has shown the ability to do so.

Ok that is the kyubi and PS. I am talking about PS itself.

 

[TRE MERCER]

People still are denying Manga facts? The nose means it's stabilized. Madara when he used his unstabilized Ps i didn't have a long nose it looked like the unstabilized Ps he used against Hashirama just with legs.

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Looks exactly the same.

Now take a look at the stablized Ps. They both have the same exact nose which means there stabilized. If that doesn't mean it's stabilized then what does i ask you?

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[RedRobin]

People still are denying Manga facts? The nose means it's stabilized. Madara when he used his unstabilized Ps i didn't have a long nose it looked like the unstabilized Ps he used against Hashirama just with legs.

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Looks exactly the same.

Now take a look at the stablized Ps. They both have the same exact nose which means there stabilized. If that doesn't mean it's stabilized then what does i ask you?

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PS with KURUMA........

/yourpoint

 

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Susanoo's mouth looks like that of a horse.

OT: ^ #Solo'd

 

[RedRobin]

Susanoo's mouth looks like that of a horse.

OT: ^ #Solo'd

PS with KURUMA........

/yourpoint

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I admit I am wrong about it being just the rinnegan but a EMS user by themselves cannot have PS stabilized.

 

[TRE MERCER]

PS with KURUMA........

/yourpoint

At first they need Rinnagan now it's Kurama damn why can't people just admit there wrong?

 

[RedRobin]

At first they need Rinnagan now it's Kurama damn why can't people just admit there wrong?

I admit I am wrong about it being just the rinnegan but a EMS user by themselves cannot have PS stabilized.

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[Punk Hazard]

PS with KURUMA........

/yourpoint

Scan to where being in contact with Kurama's chakra heightens a technique to it's next level?
I'm aware being on contact with Kurama's chakra than boost the strength of a technique at its current level, but it wouldn't grant access to another level of said technique, it has never been shown to do that before.

People still are denying Manga facts? The nose means it's stabilized. Madara when he used his unstabilized Ps i didn't have a long nose it looked like the unstabilized Ps he used against Hashirama just with legs.

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Looks exactly the same.

Now take a look at the stablized Ps. They both have the same exact nose which means there stabilized. If that doesn't mean it's stabilized then what does i ask you?

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Not to mention the Susano'o Sasuke is using there is identical to PS', and has not been seen on any lower levels of Susano'o.

 

[RedRobin]

Scan to where being in contact with Kurama's chakra heightens a technique to it's next level?
I'm aware being on contact with Kurama's chakra than boost the strength of a technique at its current level, but it wouldn't grant access to another level of said technique, it has never been shown to do that before.


Not to mention the Susano'o Sasuke is using there is identical to PS', and has not been seen on any lower levels of Susano'o.

lol it obviously does as Sasuke couldnt use the form until his chakra met with Kuruma's. Same with Madara. So obviously it does. It probably has to do with yin chakra that Kuruma has.

 

[TRE MERCER]

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They don't need a Rinnagan at all to access the full power of stablized PS.

 

[RedRobin]

They don't need a Rinnagan at all to access the full power of stablized PS.

Obviously they do. That or Kuruma. Not on their own with just EMS.

 

[Torche]

They don't need a Rinnagan at all to access the full power of stablized PS.

Perhaps without one of the Bijuu (which were once part of the Juubi) they do.

 

[Conspirator.]

Wrong, kurama doesn't allow you to access a higher level of Susanoo. That makes no sense. Basically, Madara chose to armour his PS stabilized onto the kyuubi. NOw, PS is taller than Kurama, so he had to "compress" it using shape transformation onto Kurama. That's why it has the same facial features as the stabilized version, but is smaller. Madara could have used PS alone, but then Hashirama would have stomped him even more so it was not a wise tactical option for him.

 

[RedRobin]

Wrong, kurama doesn't allow you to access a higher level of Susanoo. That makes no sense. Basically, Madara chose to armour his PS stabilized onto the kyuubi. NOw, PS is taller than Kurama, so he had to "compress" it using shape transformation onto Kurama. That's why it has the same facial features as the stabilized version, but is smaller. Madara could have used PS alone, but then Hashirama would have stomped him even more so it was not a wise tactical option for him.

It obviously does. When Kuruma fuses with PS, it changes its appearance to that of PS stabilized.

 

[Kamui Sama]

was about to agree with you until I remembered Kurama lol

 

[RedRobin]

was about to agree with you until I remembered Kurama lol

Yeah my fault, either way the main point was an EMS user by themselves wouldnt be able to do it without something special like the rinnegan or Kuruma's chakra.

 

[adeshina365]

Another Narutobase dumbass.

 

[Aya San]

Madara didn't get Kurama chakra, dumb thread.

 

[RedRobin]

Madara didn't get Kurama chakra, dumb thread.

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[lucario14]

I guess that makes sense. But madara didn't have a complete rinnegan in edo form, only a fake one. He couldn't even use limbo. Also Indra had one, despite not having the rinnegan but mabe his ocular powers were similar as you had said. It comes down to whether susanoo+kurama combo is stabilized or not. Regardless if you are right, it means neither sasuke nor madara could produce a stabilized susanoo without another party.