Proof that Second Tsuchikage > Fourth Hokage (Actual Explanation Inside)
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USSJ Future Trunks
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the fact of the matter is muu need not rely on jinton. he has his twin swords and 3 elemental releases as well as flight. he can cut minatos head off when hes caught off guard
madara fought muu when he was a kid. he stated "why should i fight seriously vs children"
NakedNinja
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minato can "fly" in a way he can throw his kunai in the air instantly tele to it and repeat. and we havent seen alot of minatos abilitys cause he never had to use them. he died young still not in his prime so i think if minato lived to his prime and we have seen all his techs he has a high chance to win. but as every thing we know minato would most likely lose but barely
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juankimari
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Good thread, very well thought and quite possible. However i still think Minato would win. Mu seems to have a wider variety of techs but don't forget Minato only needs an instant to evaluate the situation and come up with a counter, even if he has no info on his opponent his instantaneous reflexes and quick thinking allowed him to come out on top.
I would only like to add that Mu flying IS NOT a problem to Minato,why?? He could not fly BUT people seem to ignore the fact that he was able to teleport even to a kunai flying through mid-air so what would stop Minato from throwing a kunai up in the air and teleporting with a nice Rasengan to the face or the back?
People often understimate him (not the original poster, he makes good points) by thinking he only had Rasengan and FTG, that's not the case either, he was very talented in summoning,sealing techs, taijutsu,barriers etc, he not only invented Rasengan and FTG but Shiki Fuujin too.
I would only like to add that Mu flying IS NOT a problem to Minato,why?? He could not fly BUT people seem to ignore the fact that he was able to teleport even to a kunai flying through mid-air so what would stop Minato from throwing a kunai up in the air and teleporting with a nice Rasengan to the face or the back?
People often understimate him (not the original poster, he makes good points) by thinking he only had Rasengan and FTG, that's not the case either, he was very talented in summoning,sealing techs, taijutsu,barriers etc, he not only invented Rasengan and FTG but Shiki Fuujin too.
NakedNinja
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Great Sage of Uchiha
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I love this thread dude, personally i agree with you Second Tsuchikage > Fourth Hokage. People need to stop looking at the Hokage and putting him on this high and mighty pedestal. The Fourth Hokage was a great ninja i give him credit just like i did the second Hokage but like i said before he is not the best around, everyone has someone that can kill them no matter who they are there is always somebody better. This would be a great fight to see but the Second Tsuchikage would kill the fourth hands down, yes this would be a hard battle for both ( +rep to you N.k, i like the way you try to show both characters abilities to make it non-bias) but the fourth is no match in this fight. Sorry guys but no the fourth can't win this one.
juankimari
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Check your facts again, when that happened Onoki was ALREADY Mu's student, meaning Mu was in no way a child, heck i don't know why people don't get that, when Madara said he wouldn't fight seriously against a child he was MOCKING their power comparing it to his own. get it? an adult vs a child is but a game to the adult, there's no way for the child to win.
Madara pretty much mocked them both at the same time.
RinneArtist
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I don't know.
I feel that your underestimating Minato a bit.
Just because he has the ability to minipulate one element doesn't make him immune to another technique.
Call it Plot no Jutsu but Sasuke's Lightning beat Naruto's Wind based attack.
It would be a tough fight but the FTG tech is just too brutal.
In the end it comes down to Muu can hide and has a lot of attacks, however if you can't land them they are useless.
Minato is one of the fastest Ninja in this universe (if not the fastest), plus you are undermining all of Minato's Barrier techniques which could be a huge disadvantage.
What if he casts a barrier around the area (Assuming Muu is caught in it) just like he did with the 9 tailed fox? then he couldn't hide for long because its a small area and Minato would make sure his Kunai were everywhere.
Longs story short (and I am no fanboy to any one character) It would be an epic fight to see.
It may come down to who's fastest (like tobi and Minato) and be over in an instant.
I feel that your underestimating Minato a bit.
Just because he has the ability to minipulate one element doesn't make him immune to another technique.
Call it Plot no Jutsu but Sasuke's Lightning beat Naruto's Wind based attack.
It would be a tough fight but the FTG tech is just too brutal.
In the end it comes down to Muu can hide and has a lot of attacks, however if you can't land them they are useless.
Minato is one of the fastest Ninja in this universe (if not the fastest), plus you are undermining all of Minato's Barrier techniques which could be a huge disadvantage.
What if he casts a barrier around the area (Assuming Muu is caught in it) just like he did with the 9 tailed fox? then he couldn't hide for long because its a small area and Minato would make sure his Kunai were everywhere.
Longs story short (and I am no fanboy to any one character) It would be an epic fight to see.
It may come down to who's fastest (like tobi and Minato) and be over in an instant.
USSJ Future Trunks
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that was kushinas doing
but to madara he was. and thats what matters. hiruzen started training the sannin when he was in his early 20s
juankimari
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Which was exactly my point, he was a child to Madara powerwise
not in age. I don't understand what you are trying to get at by saying Hiruzen was in his early 20s when he started trianing the Sannin.
Are you saying that Mu might have been in his early 20s when he became Onoki's teacher? Even if that were the case, there is not a place in the world where that age would be considered to be the age of a child.
Like i said, Madara treated them like children because of the power difference not because of their age. Madara himself was nowhere near old at the time.
snipeshot11385
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+rep for effort, and i like both Muu and Minato, and i would honestly say the battle could go either way 51% chance Minato would win and 49% chance Muu would win just because if Muu is ever pressured to split, He wont be able to use the one thing that would give him the advantage in battle, which is his Particle Release.
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Uzamaki Naruto 6Paths
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FlyingThunderGodHax
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You always post long threads, since I need a proper view on this i guess I have to read it... 1sec
Cursed Prince
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So True, at first your versus threads seem ridiculous but after listening to them and thinking about it, I always end up agreeing. +Rep to you
JakeLife510
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So people say Minato will FTG Muu to death.
Ok after Minato lays the final blow, Muu will just body split intohis invisible self.
Minato will think he won.
Muu will be invisible right near Minato which will leave the biggest opening for Muu to deliver thefinal blow to Minato.
Hell if it fooled Naruto, Oonoki and Gaara it will fool Minato.
Ok after Minato lays the final blow, Muu will just body split intohis invisible self.
Minato will think he won.
Muu will be invisible right near Minato which will leave the biggest opening for Muu to deliver thefinal blow to Minato.
Hell if it fooled Naruto, Oonoki and Gaara it will fool Minato.
