Nice thread u got there...But the thing is am not dat sure who z gonna win..Minato isnt some dunce either..His intelligence is highly rated as well and we re nt so sure minato wont b able to mark muu cos if he does..Muu z done...Again if minato should start using his sealing techniques...ow will muu counter that?...nice thread man..really hard to decide who will finally win...
Proof that Second Tsuchikage > Fourth Hokage (Actual Explanation Inside)
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Not a Minato fanboy but this is what you alos have to take into account
1. Minato was married to an Uzumaki so he learned alot of Fuuinjutsu. Fuuinjutsu plays a factor because of the possibly it can do. Most likely he can seal a couple of elements from Muu.
2. We never knew about Minato's elements. Most likely he had more than two most likely Wind and Water which can counter some of Muu elements.
3. Minato fast reflexives. Most likely he will get away from Dust Release no prob and can notice before Mu strikes even when he is invisible.
So in my opinion Minato > Mu. There is a reason all the kages from the past that knew him and the ones now respect him so much
1. Minato was married to an Uzumaki so he learned alot of Fuuinjutsu. Fuuinjutsu plays a factor because of the possibly it can do. Most likely he can seal a couple of elements from Muu.
2. We never knew about Minato's elements. Most likely he had more than two most likely Wind and Water which can counter some of Muu elements.
3. Minato fast reflexives. Most likely he will get away from Dust Release no prob and can notice before Mu strikes even when he is invisible.
So in my opinion Minato > Mu. There is a reason all the kages from the past that knew him and the ones now respect him so much
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This wont be much of a battle..Muu crushes minato and please people dont give me the BS that minato has FTG..><
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I agree. I usually do not post much in versus threads simply because alot of them are made about characters which we didn`t see fight much yet.
Your in depth analysis was a good read though and when I think about it, I can`t really see a way to defeat Muu. The current kages were not able to stop him either. Luckily edo tensei wasn`t cancelled before he showed some of his awesome abilities. I`d say, reading through your points, that Muu would be the perfect opponent to beat Minato. I`ve yet to see how he ever got beaten and how. Even current tsuchikage impresses me alot. I remember him saying that Muu was the one who trained him. Too bad, Oonoki is way past his prime.
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Your in depth analysis was a good read though and when I think about it, I can`t really see a way to defeat Muu. The current kages were not able to stop him either. Luckily edo tensei wasn`t cancelled before he showed some of his awesome abilities. I`d say, reading through your points, that Muu would be the perfect opponent to beat Minato. I`ve yet to see how he ever got beaten and how. Even current tsuchikage impresses me alot. I remember him saying that Muu was the one who trained him. Too bad, Oonoki is way past his prime.
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Negative Knight
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Thanks for the +RepI agree. I usually do not post much in versus threads simply because alot of them are made about characters which we didn`t see fight much yet.
Your in depth analysis was a good read though and when I think about it, I can`t really see a way to defeat Muu. The current kages were not able to stop him either. Luckily edo tensei wasn`t cancelled before he showed some of his awesome abilities. I`d say, reading through your points, that Muu would be the perfect opponent to beat Minato. I`ve yet to see how he ever got beaten and how. Even current tsuchikage impresses me alot. I remember him saying that Muu was the one who trained him. Too bad, Oonoki is way past his prime.
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Lol even though im on the side of Muu they're a many scenarios on how Minato could win either way none of them would be a easy battle
Whether the terrain benefits one of them or not
Hidden in the leaves
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I think that Minato could counter some of Mu's jinton with his summoning techniques. I also believe that even if Minato hadn't gotten a kunai on Mu he could still mark him with a sign by touching him. I think Minato could hold mu off for quite a while, but evidentially Mu would win.
Really nicely done by the way.
Really nicely done by the way.
Baka Sennin
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Well, it would be a very interesting battle for sure. Minato has the best reflexes and Muu is up there with the very best also, along with Naruto.
One point to make out is that although Muu can somewhat avoid Minato by flying, the increased distance also makes it easier for Minato to evade dust release. Minato can avoid it three ways;
a. ftg. tobi takes longer than minato to materialise himself, yet he managed it. so it's a very good counter, assuming of course muu doesn't do one so huge as to destroy all the kunai simultaneously.
b. speed. madara managed to dodge both the atomic detatchment (he let himself be hit on purpose to show the kage hashirama's face), and he lost limbs to the second one, but he mentioned that susanoo made him slower. plus, minato is faster than madara
c. space/time barrier. while this is extremely unlikely, minato could make use of it as the battle progresses and he starts to figure muu out. on the other hand, muu is not the type to make any unnecessary moves, so the point is moot. i doubt he'd be able to use it, but if he could, it might be devastating to redirect it onto muu.
now, as far as i've figured out from what muu has shown, he can be invisible and fly, and he can be invisible and mask his chakra, but he cannot fly and mask his chakra or attack and mask his chakra, or attack and be invisible. so while his abilities are still invaluable for sneak attacks, it's not quite so simple to take an elite by surprise when he goes to attack them.
another point i'd like to address, is that if minato touches muu just one, he's going to put an ftg seal on top of him. meaning that flying won't be safe. splitting is a poor counter, as it loses muu the ability to use dust release.
but what you said about muu changing the terrain with earth release is very interesting, although we don't know if he can do that. it's a pity that we haven't seen more water and earth techniques, they're awesome.
personally, i think Minato has the skillset to defeat Muu, either quickly or by outlasting him. Dust Release is a tasking technique, albeit an insanely dangerous one. The best chance Muu has imo is to do a massive dust release and take out all of Minato's kunai simultaneously, giving him to options at all/forcing him to retreat outside the battle location. an enclosed location would be better for that purpose, although it'd rob Muu of the option to fly, although perhaps a canyon or valley would be the best location for him.
anyway, well done for the post, you brought up some very interesting points; although I don't think that Muu>Minato, it isn't cut and dry and you presented your points well
One point to make out is that although Muu can somewhat avoid Minato by flying, the increased distance also makes it easier for Minato to evade dust release. Minato can avoid it three ways;
a. ftg. tobi takes longer than minato to materialise himself, yet he managed it. so it's a very good counter, assuming of course muu doesn't do one so huge as to destroy all the kunai simultaneously.
b. speed. madara managed to dodge both the atomic detatchment (he let himself be hit on purpose to show the kage hashirama's face), and he lost limbs to the second one, but he mentioned that susanoo made him slower. plus, minato is faster than madara
c. space/time barrier. while this is extremely unlikely, minato could make use of it as the battle progresses and he starts to figure muu out. on the other hand, muu is not the type to make any unnecessary moves, so the point is moot. i doubt he'd be able to use it, but if he could, it might be devastating to redirect it onto muu.
now, as far as i've figured out from what muu has shown, he can be invisible and fly, and he can be invisible and mask his chakra, but he cannot fly and mask his chakra or attack and mask his chakra, or attack and be invisible. so while his abilities are still invaluable for sneak attacks, it's not quite so simple to take an elite by surprise when he goes to attack them.
another point i'd like to address, is that if minato touches muu just one, he's going to put an ftg seal on top of him. meaning that flying won't be safe. splitting is a poor counter, as it loses muu the ability to use dust release.
but what you said about muu changing the terrain with earth release is very interesting, although we don't know if he can do that. it's a pity that we haven't seen more water and earth techniques, they're awesome.
personally, i think Minato has the skillset to defeat Muu, either quickly or by outlasting him. Dust Release is a tasking technique, albeit an insanely dangerous one. The best chance Muu has imo is to do a massive dust release and take out all of Minato's kunai simultaneously, giving him to options at all/forcing him to retreat outside the battle location. an enclosed location would be better for that purpose, although it'd rob Muu of the option to fly, although perhaps a canyon or valley would be the best location for him.
anyway, well done for the post, you brought up some very interesting points; although I don't think that Muu>Minato, it isn't cut and dry and you presented your points well
Rafeal brown
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Wow... Nice thread. I agree 75%. Minato will most likely lose 7/10. + rep and i just sent you a friend request lol
ashupardeshi
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Minato is severely under rated. First of all he is the youngest Hokage ever been , he is extremely brilliant and person to revere in the Shinobi world. I guess he is the only guy till date to physically injure Tobi and that to within such a short encounter. So if pitted against Mu or any other he would surely determine a way to take them down with himself or atleast permanently handicap the opponent.
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plus rep all the way could have said it better. Still i say mid to low diffculty minato always finishes fights quickly always.
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Alright i'll detail a situation in which Muu could beat Minato
1) Firstly, use his Earth Release techniques to warp the terrain so it becomes uneven with sharp spikes coming out of the floor at different levels or something similar (Earth was his main element same with Mei having water has her main). This also prevents summons
2) Use Wind Techs to redirect Minato's FTG while he's using it in quick succession to produce the effect of flying. This will pressure Minato into going to the redirect locations as if he lands he will be impaled.
3) Muu can use this to his advantage by preparing a fire tech or even Jinton to eradicate Minato as soon as the Kunai is redirected.
1) Firstly, use his Earth Release techniques to warp the terrain so it becomes uneven with sharp spikes coming out of the floor at different levels or something similar (Earth was his main element same with Mei having water has her main). This also prevents summons
2) Use Wind Techs to redirect Minato's FTG while he's using it in quick succession to produce the effect of flying. This will pressure Minato into going to the redirect locations as if he lands he will be impaled.
3) Muu can use this to his advantage by preparing a fire tech or even Jinton to eradicate Minato as soon as the Kunai is redirected.
Uchiha Dan
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Very detailed and precise. You present a very good argument on why Tsuchikage could whoop the 4th butt! I fully agree on this.
Very good job sir.
Very good job sir.
SashaUchiha
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I am not really good at the statistics and analysis part... so dunno... it's clear that Muu has better abilities. I'd say, Tobi>Minato (we even have people saying Tobi>Madara, therefore)... but Minato defeated him. Winning a battle is not always about strength, it's more about how you react at that point in time. Oro>>> Sasuke, but Sasuke beat him... really... it is all about the moment, anything is possible... U.U
