Proof that Akatsuki > 10 Greatest Kages of History (Actual Explanation Inside)
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Muu can make him invisible for a pause...
But itachi can use susanoo's carcas for protect and use amaterasu on her feel like sasuke
But itachi can use susanoo's carcas for protect and use amaterasu on her feel like sasuke
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I think things like this are totally situational and dependant on who each ninja is paired with. For example, alternate the Tobi/3rd Raikage with the Deidara/Minato pair and it completely changes the outcome.
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So true Ryuu but that argument could be used for the hundred combinations possible so i decided it was best to give the Akatsuki balanced people to fight against
e.g. Itachi is Muu's Level, whilst Gaara fights the weakest of Akatsuki - Zetsu
e.g. Itachi is Muu's Level, whilst Gaara fights the weakest of Akatsuki - Zetsu
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Just have to say this, Hidan is the weakest Akatsuki. That is all. There is no way Zetsu loses to him, I don't even know if he bleeds!
Would you feel better if I said he would finish him off with his swords?
The point is Muu can completely erase his presence to the point that he’s a non-person. Without a chakra form and presence, he can practically solo the majority of the Naruto universe (and he probably did).Itachi does not possess any sensor sand/rain, any special modes, or a barrier like Jiraiya so he can’t intercept Muu’s attack. This is based on the manga the pages are there, it’s not based on whether or not you or I think the technique is overrated. Until Kishi actually changes his mind or decide to reveal new info, it will stay canon and anything other than that can be summed up as baseless assumptions. Same can be said about his past battles since we are not privy to them (even though the 2nd Mizukage was, obviously, a bad match-up with his clam and jokey boy which can sense heat), or Muu’s progress for that matter, so it’s futile to bring that up when we are both full aware that only Kishi can answer that.
Itachi will simply lose his head with a single slash, from behind, probably a bloody scene, since Muu is not dumb enough to engage in a full blown battle when he can take advantage of his incredible invisibility mode while also avoid using a chakra-taxing technique that will reveal his position i.e. Jinton.
However, I will correct you since you either forgot or chose to ignore that Muu can take flight, at any moment, thus rendering amaterasu useless. Muu is also an incredible sensor, arguably the best (Naruto and Karin are also up there), he can sense Amaterasu coming and simply avoid it… just like he sensed the fastest man alive, Naruto, waited until the last possible moment and dodged a rasen shuriken with his back turned. How on earth do you expect amaterasu to play any role whatsoever in this battle?
Tsukuyomi can be avoided with a little thing called distance, or by Muu simply flying, by the way, while doing that Muu could blast Itachi with a giant Jintons. We already saw the immortal, invincible Madara fear/respect jinton after all his clones were completely erased, even with preta but I digress. The yata mirror will protect Itachi for awhile, but eventually Itachi will either die from exhaustion, chakra depletion, etc., or Muu will find his opening before that- behind the mirror. It’s a horrible, horrible match-up for Itachi, I don’t see intelligence changing anything here especially as Muu created a kekkei tota and is an intelligent shinobi himself.
As I said in the beginning, it won’t reach that far death by assassination will be the most likely outcome.
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bro this is one of the best if not the best thread i`ve seen so far thanks for inviting me to be apart of this.. all I have to say is the second Hokage might give it to Kisame!
WOW, this must have been a lot of work. I agree with most of your points, but I don´t think Zetsu is able to beat Gaara. Like Tobi for example said, Zetsu is a non combat Shinobitype and Gaara is in my opinion one of the strongest combat types (distance). If Gaara uses his defence, there is no way the white Zetsu´s can even touch him.
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Did you forget that Muu had all this and still lost low difficulty to madara without him even using his perfect suasnoo? He had all these things and still lost to the sharingan, so his invisiblity and his dust release can be beaten.Would you feel better if I said he would finish him off with his swords?
The point is Muu can completely erase his presence to the point that he’s a non-person. Without a chakra form and presence, he can practically solo the majority of the Naruto universe (and he probably did).Itachi does not possess any sensor sand/rain, any special modes, or a barrier like Jiraiya so he can’t intercept Muu’s attack. This is based on the manga the pages are there, it’s not based on whether or not you or I think the technique is overrated. Until Kishi actually changes his mind or decide to reveal new info, it will stay canon and anything other than that can be summed up as baseless assumptions. Same can be said about his past battles since we are not privy to them (even though the 2nd Mizukage was, obviously, a bad match-up with his clam and jokey boy which can sense heat), or Muu’s progress for that matter, so it’s futile to bring that up when we are both full aware that only Kishi can answer that.
Itachi will simply lose his head with a single slash, from behind, probably a bloody scene, since Muu is not dumb enough to engage in a full blown battle when he can take advantage of his incredible invisibility mode while also avoid using a chakra-taxing technique that will reveal his position i.e. Jinton.
However, I will correct you since you either forgot or chose to ignore that Muu can take flight, at any moment, thus rendering amaterasu useless. Muu is also an incredible sensor, arguably the best (Naruto and Karin are also up there), he can sense Amaterasu coming and simply avoid it… just like he sensed the fastest man alive, Naruto, waited until the last possible moment and dodged a rasen shuriken with his back turned. How on earth do you expect amaterasu to play any role whatsoever in this battle?
Tsukuyomi can be avoided with a little thing called distance, or by Muu simply flying, by the way, while doing that Muu could blast Itachi with a giant Jintons. We already saw the immortal, invincible Madara fear/respect jinton after all his clones were completely erased, even with preta but I digress. The yata mirror will protect Itachi for awhile, but eventually Itachi will either die from exhaustion, chakra depletion, etc., or Muu will find his opening before that- behind the mirror. It’s a horrible, horrible match-up for Itachi, I don’t see intelligence changing anything here especially as Muu created a kekkei tota and is an intelligent shinobi himself.
As I said in the beginning, it won’t reach that far death by assassination will be the most likely outcome.
And how would him flying make amaterasu useless? Cause i must of missed something, last time i checked amaterasu doesnt travel on the ground.
And all this is if Muu even starts the battle off with going invisible, which is countered by itachi starting the battle off with genjutsu which he ALWAYS did when he was a live. He he starts the battle with genjutsu against some one with 0 knowledge on him(which Muu fits that discription) its a wrap.
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Good thread, BUT:
This thread is based on particular 1v1s and is very rigid. You cannot really randomly swap all of the shinobi on that list and have the same outcome, meaning that this isn't really "proof". You have demonstrated that if it's a tournament of sorts, akatsuki may come out on top if these match-ups were the case, but there's nothing that suggests any teamwork on the post or any combination of 2-3 jutsu from different shinobi that can be used to attack the opposite team.
I like the research and it certainly took you a long time, but as far as the "proof" part is concerned, you haven't proven it.
This thread is based on particular 1v1s and is very rigid. You cannot really randomly swap all of the shinobi on that list and have the same outcome, meaning that this isn't really "proof". You have demonstrated that if it's a tournament of sorts, akatsuki may come out on top if these match-ups were the case, but there's nothing that suggests any teamwork on the post or any combination of 2-3 jutsu from different shinobi that can be used to attack the opposite team.
I like the research and it certainly took you a long time, but as far as the "proof" part is concerned, you haven't proven it.
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Yeah i agree Tsunade > Mei but i had to compare a wide variety of move sets
e.g. A and Tsunade are stronger but have the same style as the 3rd Raikage
Mei and Gaara showed different fighting styles that were pretty much original
e.g. A and Tsunade are stronger but have the same style as the 3rd Raikage
Mei and Gaara showed different fighting styles that were pretty much original