Proof that Akatsuki > 10 Greatest Kages of History (Actual Explanation Inside)

[Scryed]

You put thought into that threat. I appreciate that.
Though you might've pitted the Kages up against the ones who hold their weaknesses in Akatsuki. You can pretty much change the match-ups and the Kages would also hold more wins. So in a way, they both hold strengths and weaknesses against their opponents if you send them to an all out battle in which either side could be victorious.

Well thought out though.

 

[Flash]

According to me (its just my opinion)...

Itachi vs Muu
Well I feel it would be a tough match....can't really say who wins...
But Muu can go invisible n he can fly as well....so that would pose as a problem for Itachi...
Result: unpredicted

Kisame vs Tobirama
yes kisame is a no tailed beast but Tobirama's water techniques are second to none...
He even has s/t and edo tensei...
If kisame traps the Hokage inside his dome...he can get out using his s/t
N if kisame can steal the chakra...Tobirama can use tai jutsu(remember how Naruto's one punch got all the juice out of him)...
Anyway its not easy to fight against an edo user...
Result: Tobirama

Hidan vs Fifth Mizukage
I agree with what you said....
Result:Hidan

Minato vs deidara
Its a bad match up...Minato owns him even if he has c4 or c0...Minato with ftg can't be defeated by deidara
Result: Minato

Kakuzu vs Troll kage
The points you provided are very good but I still feel Mizukage takes this.....
I agree kakuzu has a hell lot of strength n has the 5 elements n 5 lives as well...but to defeat Mizukage(he has jokey boy)...you need the brains of people like Shikamaru....n without prior info about Mizukage I don't think kakuzu can beat the kage
Also Mizukage is the person who defeated Muu...so yes he is one of the best
Result: Mizukage

Sasori vs Third kazekage
This kazekage was one of the strongest in the sand.....
but the way sasori controlled him m sure the kazekage can do much more than that.....
If sasori uses poisonous needles...kazekage can obliviously control those needles....if sasori uses his 100 puppets he can counter it with iron sand world..
As far as hiruko is concerned even that its metallic....
Result: Third Kazekage

Zetsu vs Gaara
Well Zetsu is one character that I can never understand.....but I don't think Gaara would go down so easily to Zetsu
Result: can't decide

Konan vs Oonoki
I believe Oonoki can defeat konan high difficulty...
Oonoki is a kekke touta user n has a hell lot of experience....
As far as the paper bombs are concerned....he can always use his golem to protect him...
Being a powerful wind fire n earth user I don't think konan can beat him easily..
Result:Oonoki

Pain vs Hiruzen
Again a bad match up.....(if Nagato can use the six paths of pain I don't think rds would have any effect on him...using the deva path he can keep Hiruzen from coming closer to him)
Resultain

Tobi vs Raikage
I believe the only way one can beat this s/t user is by being a s/t user himself.....or by being Naruto(plot no jutsu)
The Raikage would cause a very big problem to Tobi but Tobi wins this high/very high difficulty...
Result:Tobi

Again this is all just my opinion....n everything is based on the way you matched up everyone....
The results could have been different had you changed the matchup...N also its good you didn't include hashi...the kages would have raped the Akatuski...

And finally dude +rep for your work....I always enjoy reading your threads..

 

[Negative Knight]

^^Thanks man i'm glad you guys do

Alright i'm here to answer any and all questions

-I agree the match ups are deliberate but in all honesty i can't 100s of different combination so i did the most equal chance of winning for both sides e.g. Mei would lose to anyone but Konan/Hidan, having a decent chance again them


-Minato and Deidara was a difficult one, but it seems like the best possible match up for the two

-Zetsu only has to land his spores, because they are not a direct attack Gaara's Sand doesn't act to protect him from something that isn't a immediate threat, once Zetsu land his spores he pretty much wins

-Konan only needs to restrain Onoki with one of the paper clones and cause them to all explode simultaneously, one incomplete explosion took Tobi's arm and half his mask so complete explosions should kill him

-Kisame's stamina only starts to fatigue when Tobirama no longer has chakra to provide him with, his Great Shark Bullet can absorb Tobirama's Suiton and at close range he uses Samehada/Fusion Mode to steal chakra directly.

-Hidan and Mei, remember how sluggish her Lava is and how fast fire release techniques are, he was able to dodge a fire ball at close range meaning he would make short work of her lava release, him drawing blood is the equivalent of Mei getting hit by Jinton either way its a one shot kill

 

[DivineIllusion]

Rep+ just for the large mass of information.
The outcomings of the battles seem logical to me... even if would saay that Mein has good chancec to beat hidan-> One hit with lavastyle and hidan is nearly unable to move... Another Hit and hes completely locked in lava... which becomes stonelike very fast...

And I think that Hiruzen cannot beat nagato, because even if he tries dto deathreaper him,: Shinra Tensei and done. Also Hiruzen has no counter to CT, while nagato needs just one contact in closecombat to kill hiruzen with human path...

 

[Flame Alchemist]

well if the matches are 1 on 1 and winners don't go around helping their friends I think it'll be like this.

itachi vs. muu. I think itachi wins this with extreme difficulty. jinton would prove dangerous but itachi would be able to take muu down at the end.

kisame vs. tobirama. I think tobirama has this one. they are both the masters of suiton and kisame is called tailless bijuu but tobirama's entire life went on with wars. I think tobirama wins with high difficulty. not extreme

hidan vs. mei. mei has this. before hidan can wound her, she'll melt him

deidara vs. minato. now this one is the most interesting. this would be a great match up. deidara is a long renge bomber which is a trouble for most shinobi. however minato is capable of teleporting to kunai he throws. in other words this'll be a battle in the air where deidara flies on a bird and minato constantly teleports. even though deidara has the field adventage I think minato can pull it off. though the battle be extremely difficult.

kakuzu vs. second mizukage. well as much as I like second mizukage I think he doesn't have a technique to pass kakuzu's iron skin. if that's the case kakuzu wins. if he can get past his iron skin, mizukage takes the battle mid. difficulty.

sasori vs. third kazekage. in this battle sasori won't have his third kazekage puppet. so his power will decrease. and third kazekage was said to be the strongest kazekage. considering those it'll a be a really close battle. and I can't decide who would win. I say draw.

zetsu vs. gaara. I don't think zetsu can get past gaara's sand defence. gaara wins.

nagato vs. hiruzen. I think nagato wins. if it's old hiruzen, it'll be no problem. but if it's hiruzen in his prime things would get nasty. but since we don't know how powerful he was back then and how nagato was in his prime I believe nagato has a better chance.

konan vs. onoki. I think onoki has this. middle difficulty. they bot fly but onoki seems to be faster and more destructive. and even if konan had his "ocean" prepared. it won't do any good against someone that can fly.

tobi vs. third raikage. tobi has this. either easily or middle difficulty. no matter what raikage does it'll just went through tobi's body but once tobi touches him it'll be over.

so 3 akatsuki wins. and 5 kage wins. 2 of the battles (second mizukage vs. kakuzu and sasori vs. third kazekage) ends with a draw.

 

[Zyynn]

Another great thread, dude. I'd give you some rep, but I need to spread some more.

To be honest, I don't care much for these threads unless the OP believes the obvious loser of the fight to be the winner - but these threads you create are extremely impressive.

 

[Negative Knight]

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well if the matches are 1 on 1 and winners don't go around helping their friends I think it'll be like this.

itachi vs. muu. I think itachi wins this with extreme difficulty. jinton would prove dangerous but itachi would be able to take muu down at the end.

kisame vs. tobirama. I think tobirama has this one. they are both the masters of suiton and kisame is called tailless bijuu but tobirama's entire life went on with wars. I think tobirama wins with high difficulty. not extreme

hidan vs. mei. mei has this. before hidan can wound her, she'll melt him

deidara vs. minato. now this one is the most interesting. this would be a great match up. deidara is a long renge bomber which is a trouble for most shinobi. however minato is capable of teleporting to kunai he throws. in other words this'll be a battle in the air where deidara flies on a bird and minato constantly teleports. even though deidara has the field adventage I think minato can pull it off. though the battle be extremely difficult.

kakuzu vs. second mizukage. well as much as I like second mizukage I think he doesn't have a technique to pass kakuzu's iron skin. if that's the case kakuzu wins. if he can get past his iron skin, mizukage takes the battle mid. difficulty.

sasori vs. third kazekage. in this battle sasori won't have his third kazekage puppet. so his power will decrease. and third kazekage was said to be the strongest kazekage. considering those it'll a be a really close battle. and I can't decide who would win. I say draw.

zetsu vs. gaara. I don't think zetsu can get past gaara's sand defence. gaara wins.

nagato vs. hiruzen. I think nagato wins. if it's old hiruzen, it'll be no problem. but if it's hiruzen in his prime things would get nasty. but since we don't know how powerful he was back then and how nagato was in his prime I believe nagato has a better chance.

konan vs. onoki. I think onoki has this. middle difficulty. they bot fly but onoki seems to be faster and more destructive. and even if konan had his "ocean" prepared. it won't do any good against someone that can fly.

tobi vs. third raikage. tobi has this. either easily or middle difficulty. no matter what raikage does it'll just went through tobi's body but once tobi touches him it'll be over.

so 3 akatsuki wins. and 5 kage wins. 2 of the battles (second mizukage vs. kakuzu and sasori vs. third kazekage) ends with a draw.

Lol i agree that the Deidara fight is the most interesting but the Konan one doesn't come far behind

I'l explain how Konan could win, she can make enough clones to overwhelm Onoki from every direction, if one can get to him and restrain him for even a few seconds the rest (they're all rigged with explosives) just explode on him which undoubtly kills him. A incomplete explosion was shown to take off Tobi's arm and half his mask, so a dozen or so should kill him for sure.

 

[Uzumaki Kurama kun]

Brilliant as always Negative Knight!

 

[toxicb2k]

rili love the analysis...ba dont u think we havent seen much of all the kages stated and their true power like we've seen the akatsuki. the could be alot more to them than we've already seen...

 

[Allimzbbe]

woah thats such a profound argument--> im beginning to agree with you on this
Woop! woop! konan!!!

 

[ArreX]

dude awesome work +rep

 

[Sephy100]

I agree with most just not Zetsu. That pushed it a bit too far. Other than that +rep.

 

[minatofan234]

+rep for working hard but the only reason the akastuki win because is becuase you matched them up the way you wanted to you matched them up in a scenario were the akatsuki win most of the time but if rearranged them the kages would win but good work

 

[AngryRock]

I agree with most just not Zetsu. That pushed it a bit too far. Other than that +rep.

I agree, that Zetsu part was like

 

[siyo]

Well, I like your marketing tactics.Especially when you can actually deliver with sound arguments (explaining why you believe what you believe) however I disagree with your whole premise.It's biased to specifically pick the match ups, and then use those random picks to justify akatsukis so-called superiority.

1) Itachi vs Second Tsuchikage:

Muu will go invinsible and finish Itachi with a kunai.

2) Kisame vs Second Hokage:

We don't know much about Tobirama, but he was hyped up to be the greatest water manipulator.Thus based on hype I would pick Tobirama.

3) Hidan vs Fifth Mizukage:

Hidan beating a Kage? The Mizukage will simply keep her distance and use acid to burn him to death.He can't get up again without Kakuzu.

4) Deidara vs Fourth Hokage:

Deidara is simply inferior.Sasuke almost got him before their match even started, with shunsin.

5) Kakuzu vs Second Mizukage:

Kakuzu will never find the clam.

6) Sasori vs Third Kazekage:

We already know the results.

7) Zetsu vs Fifth Kazekage:

Zetzu will be sealed pretty quickly.

8) Nagato vs Third Hokage:

Sarutobi is stronger than everybody in akatsuki bar Nagato and Tobi. CT is enough.

9) Konan vs Third Tsuchikage:

Onoki with a massive jinton.

10)Tobi vs Third Raikage:

The third Raikage can't hit Tobi, so Tobi wins by default.

 

[Cursed Prince]

My favorite Thread maker of all time is... Negative Night +rep

 

[Negative Knight]

Lol thanks man, that means a lot xd

 

[captainEO]

Wow, that's very in-depth.

I'm always surprised by how insightful, analytical and unbiased you are.

I agree with Itachi, Kisame, Sasori winning. And Deidara losing.
Though there's quite little info on the 2nd Hokage.

I think Onoki would beat Konan. Konan doesn't seem especially powerful.

I think Tobi would beat the 3rd Raikage.
He's smart, cunning and his s/t technique is really powerful.

I also think Nagato would win. He's just too powerful for most characters. Hiruzen included.
And here he'd be the Akatsuki's trump card. With Rinnegan he could continually replenish his teammates' chakra and or revive them if need be. Tobi would also be useful, he could also intervene in other Akatsuki battles and s/t his teammates out of danger as he did with Sasuke.

I'm not sure about Zetsu vs Gaara, Hidan vs Mei and Kakuzu's match.
But the Akatsuki are more versatile and more powerful. So I think they'd win overall.

Another nice thread.

 

[KaedaLimbu]

I totally agree.
but if the 3rd hokage was fighting all Pains than i guess he would lose.

and again awesome thread.

 

[Wolfang714]

Very nice and well-present thread. I read 100% so don't worry, I'm not crapping you. You are really establishing yourself on this site, thus gaining my respect. I might add... Blaze is starting to get some competition