Preta Path > Kamui, Space time barrier

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Sorry but calling himself idiot you will not change my mind or the manga itself.

Red colored part makes me laugh, really you are idot who keeps posting the same reply without even re-reading fight against Deidara as I asked.
Underlined part, you keep posting your bullshit opinion which I don't care.

Blude colored part is again just your stupid assumption sucked with your ass. Databook and the manga states completly otherwise.

BRING ME ONE SCAN WHERE KAMUI IS CALLED WORMHOLE, I dare you ...

If you can, then shut up and stop pretending to be smart because you are not growing in my eyes.

still keeping your Delusional facade i see?

Your thread already went to shit. Waltz and even madara rules owned you, i rather not waste my time here.

Kamui > preta path. Your going to have to deal with it.
 

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still keeping your Delusional facade i see?

Your thread already went to shit. Waltz and even madara rules owned you, i rather not waste my time here.

Kamui > preta path. Your going to have to deal with it.

sorry but you need pair of glasses actually it is otherwise I owned them as I own you actually

Go ahead and leave I do not bother you to stay here.

No, you have to deal with Manga/databook scan or stay in your dream world where you can imagine whatever you can.

Bring me scan from the manga or databook proving your right or shut up and leave.

EDIT: oh, and you can bash/insult me how much you want but in the end you can only deal with Manga/Databook proving my right or go into corner and cry or send list to Kishi to do as you wish.
 

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sorry but you need pair of glasses actually it is otherwise I owned them as I own you actually

Go ahead and leave I do not bother you to stay here.

No, you have to deal with Manga/databook scan or stay in your dream world where you can imagine whatever you can.

Bring me scan from the manga or databook proving your right or shut up and leave.

your delusional.

Your using the databook as proof yet the same databook that backs up kamui as being unbeatable. You don't even know how preta path works, Your just spewing fan fiction.

Preta path reverse's the user's chakra streams to suck the chakra it comes into contact with and bring it in Thus absorbing it. Preta path isn't absorbing kamui which isn't based on Chakra. Kamui needs chakra to be projected but kamui itself isn't made of chakra.

get this through your thick head.
 

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your delusional.

Your using the databook as proof yet the same databook that backs up kamui as being unbeatable. You don't even know how preta path works, Your just spewing fan fiction.

Preta path reverse's the user's chakra streams to suck the chakra it comes into contact with and bring it in Thus absorbing it. Preta path isn't absorbing kamui which isn't based on Chakra. Kamui needs chakra to be projected but kamui itself isn't made of chakra.

get this through your thick head.


keep talking bullshit, I don't care until you bring me mangascans or databook scans ;/

You know that you are boring with repeat the same stuff over and over. At least I brought some new points and analyzed it deeply, but you Mr. Kishimoto of course know better.

So mr. Kishimoto how was you break ? (sarcasm)

EDIT: I AM STILL WAITING FOR YOUR LAUGHABLE WORMHOLE scan where Kamui is called that, don't be shy just go ahead and show me it and then I will admit I was wrong.
 

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keep talking bullshit, I don't care until you bring me mangascans or databook scans ;/

You know that you are boring with repeat the same stuff over and over. At least I brought some new points and analyzed it deeply, but you Mr. Kishimoto of course know better.

So mr. Kishimoto how was you break ? (sarcasm)

your still delusional.

Your logic is terrible and you keep rambling the same thing over and over again even tho it's been proven wrong/false many times.

Kids these days should not be on the internet. why don't you go take a nap.
 

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your still delusional.

Your logic is terrible and you keep rambling the same thing over and over again even tho it's been proven wrong/false many times.

Kids these days should not be on the internet. why don't you go take a nap.

because I need to learn another kid(you), that you don't have to be always right.

You are ignorant stubborn selfish kid, who can not even bring me proof for your statements. Yes, you keep talking jakcshit whatever, rammbling about your fanfcition interpretation forced to explain what the manga shows. Of course while you do it you pretend to be smart only to make laugh of himself here.

Until you bring scan, you are wrong. (I am sure you will keep talking bullshit Lol)
 
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because I need to learn another kid(you), that you don't have to be always right.

You are ignorant stubborn selfish kid, who can not even bring me proof for your statements. Yes, you keep talking jakcshit whatever, rammbling about your fanfcition interpretation forced to explain what the manga shows. Of course whiel you do it you pretend to be smat only to make laugh of himself here.

Until you bring scan, you are wrong. (I am sure you will keep talking bullshit Lol)

I already countered it in the other 3 threads you made on this topic in the past 2 days. Your grasping at straws and making yourself look delusional. Heck everyone already countered you and you still keep spewing fanfiction.

Your one thick headed kid. Your one of those kids that need to be restricted from the internet.

Here, go on here and make theories all you want,

 

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I already countered it in the other 3 threads you made on this topic in the past 2 days. Your grasping at straws and making yourself look delusional. Heck everyone already countered you and you still keep spewing fanfiction.

Your one thick headed kid. Your one of those kids that need to be restricted from the internet.

Here, go on here and make theories all you want,


Really ? trying to be funny ? sorry I don't buy it.

1) You didn't even read my thread before posting
2) You come here to talk your bullshit talk you uses all the time
3) You don't understand meaning word "everyone"
4) You forces your own opinion on other peoples
5) You bash/insult others to make himself feel better
6) You keep talking about yourself(Yes there is enough internet for you today)

Stop trying to act as better then others. I already deciphered you, you loose your temper and cool when you can not prove your right, then you being to repeat old stuff forcing it on others and when it doesn't work then you try to make fun of others.
 

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Really ? trying to be funny ? sorry I don't buy it.

1) You didn't even read my thread before posting
2) You come here to talk your bullshit talk you uses all the time
3) You don't understand meaning word "everyone"
4) You forces your own opinion on other peoples
5) You bash/insult others to make himself feel better
6) You keep talking about yourself(Yes there is enough internet for you today)

Stop trying to act as better then others. I already deciphered you, you loose your temper and cool when you can not prove your right, then you being to repeat old stuff forcing it on others and when it doesn't work then you try to make fun of others.

still delusional as ever.

Im going to leave before i lose anymore IQ points trying to read your flawed logic.
 

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still delusional as ever.

Im going to leave before i rise IQ points trying to read your flawed logic.

Well that is understandable. I am bored with debate so it is about time to end this as you won't convince me and I won't convince you.

Just keep respect for others and not force your opinion as the truth unless you bring manga scans or scans from databook
 

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With Madara enhancing every path, It wouldnt shock me. Good thread.

On top of that, if Kamui is a space time barrier, then Preta laughs at Kamui.
 

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With Madara enhancing every path, It wouldnt shock me. Good thread.

On top of that, if Kamui is a space time barrier, then Preta laughs at Kamui.

Yes, Kamui is the space time barrier... and I am not sure if Preta easily deal with Kamui but it can deal with it

Exactly I just can't wait to see Kamui fanboys's reactions when Madara counters kamui using Rinnegan
 

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I love it how some people take this manga serious enough to use their brains and struggle to make long pointless theories that the writer could change if he wanted to (and that is if they're actually right, which most of the times, they aren't).
 

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Question: if an earth ninja manipulates the earth to create a bolder then throws it at a pretra path user... would the bolder be absorbed?
 

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Here's my take on things:

I'll make this a complex theory in which many can understand. I just can't stand this Kamui > All talk, so I'm here to prove it all wrong.


The Sharingan (in which enables the user to use Kamui) is located within the head, in which the two eye sockets have their own tenketsu (chakra points):

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Kamui is then conjured by the Mangekyou Sharingan, meaning that chakra is implemented (causing the wrinkle; distortion in time/space), meaning that it's a jutsu (chakra is ultimately implemented):

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The chakra in which Kamui contains is used to warp the targeted object, in which is contained in the formed wrinkle/ripple:

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Some may argue that Kamui is to fast, while I disagree. Remember Sasori's Satetsu (Iron Sand) was fast enough to break the sound barrier:

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And what exactly was the counter to its speed? Stationary Tactics:

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In which two specific entities can achieve; Gakido The Preta Path:

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And Samehada:

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Hiraishin no Jutsu is quite different. Hiraishin no Jutsu simply transports the user to a tagged kunai at instantaneous speed, while Kamui is chakra focused to a certain viewpoint, and targeted object. The chakra is used to create a wrinkle/ripple in time/space, then the chakra is dispersed to transport the object into another dimension closing the wrinkle/ripple.

Also do not take what the Databook says directly, most of the techniques in which the Databook goes in depth on, are hyped beyond measure eg; Amaterasu is as hot as the sun. If that was the case Obito would have been dead on contact, along with Yondaime Raikage, and The Samurai who came in contact with Amaterasu.

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Kamui is not a barrier. It is solely space time curvature. Think of it like this: a robot that shoots arrows. The chakara is like the electricity that powers the robot and allows it to shoot the arrow. The arrow itself however, is not electricity. It's the same concept. Chakara allows Obito and Kakashi to activate Kamui. However, the Kamui itself is not chakara. It is force.
 

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Kamui is not a barrier. It is solely space time curvature. Think of it like this: a robot that shoots arrows. The chakara is like the electricity that powers the robot and allows it to shoot the arrow. The arrow itself however, is not electricity. It's the same concept. Chakara allows Obito and Kakashi to activate Kamui. However, the Kamui itself is not chakara. It is force.

Thank you. Next thing you know ppl will be saying preta path>shinra tensai.
 

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I'm sorry... but no. Stop dwelling in delusions. I know your acclimation to the Sage of the Six Paths and your willingness to continually hype the Rinnegan's abilities, but please stop. Learn to not be biased in the face of being proven wrong. Waltz and Madara Rules did prove you wrong. Kamui is a technique MAINTAINED by chakra, but not made of chakra. Preta has its own down comings that make it inferior to both Kamui, and Mokuton. The manga already highlighted that Madara COULD NOT absorb Hashirama's Wood Dragons that he had been tied down by. And guess what? They're real trees, and Hashirama merely injects life force into them to make them sprout, hence the inability for Madara to absorb it; it isn't made of chakra, only brought forth/maintained by chakra. Same as Kamui. This is literally like saying, Preta Path could absorb Shinra Tensei but then you realize it can't, because Shinra Tensei is not chakra, but a repulsive gravitational force, as opposed to a chakra composed attack like a basic Katon from Madara.
 

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I'm sorry... but no. Stop dwelling in delusions. I know your acclimation to the Sage of the Six Paths and your willingness to continually hype the Rinnegan's abilities, but please stop. Learn to not be biased in the face of being proven wrong. Waltz and Madara Rules did prove you wrong. Kamui is a technique MAINTAINED by chakra, but not made of chakra. Preta has its own down comings that make it inferior to both Kamui, and Mokuton. The manga already highlighted that Madara COULD NOT absorb Hashirama's Wood Dragons that he had been tied down by. And guess what? They're real trees, and Hashirama merely injects life force into them to make them sprout, hence the inability for Madara to absorb it; it isn't made of chakra, only brought forth/maintained by chakra. Same as Kamui. This is literally like saying, Preta Path could absorb Shinra Tensei but then you realize it can't, because Shinra Tensei is not chakra, but a repulsive gravitational force, as opposed to a chakra composed attack like a basic Katon from Madara.

Kamui is not a barrier. It is solely space time curvature. Think of it like this: a robot that shoots arrows. The chakara is like the electricity that powers the robot and allows it to shoot the arrow. The arrow itself however, is not electricity. It's the same concept. Chakara allows Obito and Kakashi to activate Kamui. However, the Kamui itself is not chakara. It is force.

kamui> preta path...! if kamui can be absorbed then i can prove that genjutsu can be as well...! genjutsu is casted on user by chakra manipulation in opponent obviously using your own chakra...! now preta should be able to absorb opponents chakra cancelling the genjutsu but it can't...! same is the case with kamui...! 1st preta can't touch anything when being sucked so touching opponent is out of question...! 2nd if preta can absorb opponent's chakra that is keeping the portal open then same is case with genjutsu...!
the thing is for preta to absorb anything it has to touch it...! and while being sucked into kamui dimention you don't touch anything...! you just walk through the door and enter another room....! so preta is useless against kamui...
also hirashin markings cannot be absorbed as obito had both rinnegan and jubi and still couldn't pull it off....!

KCMNaruto, The center of Kamui cannot be a Black hole as it doesn't function as one; that is, to completely disintegrate any material bypassing it's event Horizon. If it was, anything warped into the center would experience an effect similar to Jinton however, on lesser quantum scales.

Sorry but NO.

You can't absorb "Jikukan Ninjutsu or Jikukan Kekkei." Heck I remember people saying Preta > Mokuton and in the manga Hashirama's Wooden Dragon completely rendered Preta Useless U_U

Preta also can't absorb the Hiraishin marking as well since it never disappears U_U

1. Mokuton > Preta
2. Jikukan Ninjutsu, Jikukan Kekkei, Hiraishin Marking > Preta
3. Senjutsu > Preta
4. Kamui >> Preta
5. Physical attack, weapons > Preta
6. Genjutsu > Preta

Genjutsu also needs Chakra to be maintained yet it is something Gakido cannot absorb.

Kamui is not a Chakra based attack. Its in fact, a dimensional portal which is actual physical thing and not Chakra.

Regardless of your effort, its all wrong due to your poor interpretation.

I don't think you understand the Manga here. So i might have to be a little bit rude as i educate your thick head.

[ ]. Shino's bugs Chakra absorption works similar to Preta Path. He stated he through the bugs, he can absorb Chakra. Now, your point of the thread, is Preta path could absorb Kamui, well as i have shown the scan of Shino's bugs failing to absorb Kamui. That shits on your f@cking thread.

Another scan shits on this dumb thread, is the one where Preta Pain absorbs trying to absorb ''Naruto's'' FRS, its revealed it was transformation which Preta could not absorb. From that, its concluded Preta cannot absorb actual physical things. Get that through your thick head. As Waltz also said, Genjutsu does not get absorbed. Not to mention Databook and Manga both says nothing defends against Kamui which is what you are using.

Next time, don't make dumb threads because people will humiliate you and what a shitty theorist you are.

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The bold is where i rest my case. Oh, i also would like a scan of Databook or Manga stating Preta Path absorption > Shino's bugs, otherwise it would be fanfiction:rolleyes:Since Shino's bugs failed to absorb Kamui, then Preta Path will fail as well.


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This kid is delusional. After all this and hes still not getting it through his head.
 

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KF's post above me says it all. Now I'm convinced that Kamui can't be absorbed.
 
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