People don't understand Hashiramas power

[SashaUchiha]

OK... I cannot understand something that I have not seen... I might understand him if I see him doing something... U_U

 

[Owarij]

This man was a god

And you my friend, are severely overrating him

 

[Imperius]

he lacks feats and therefore people will obviously underrate him because most people ignore hype but hasirama is a beast of course and yes i do agree hes kinda underrated in the forum but if he beats nagato i'm not sure about that, it's as that other dude said we don't know what counters hashirama has for rinnegan

 

[Ryuu..]

But we have also to note Madaras words, who said that only Hashirama can stop him. In this case he was certainly referring to his perfect Susanoo Hashirama defeated before. If Hashirama would need Kurama in order to defeat Madara, neither Dan or Madara himself would say that Hashirama can stop him. I think that Hashirama rather paralyzed Kurama for the fight than turned it against Madara. Above, Hashiramas power is reflecting in Madaras words again and again who says that Hashirama had an inane power, a power where even the five current Kage are a gameplay compared to it.

Not only will Madara wank Hashirama till the end of time, he is completely unaware of many other powerful ninja. Heck, I don't believe he knows anyone after Nagato's time, and this is a young Nagato (He didn't live to see Nagato as an adult, as he said 'it seems the brat had finally grown up'). Madara is so arrogant, so of course he will make out that the only man who could defeat him was some 'godly' figure. But in truth, Hashirama is on EMS Madara's level. All Madara is doing is trying to improve his own image.

 

[Strict]

Not only will Madara wank Hashirama till the end of time, he is completely unaware of many other powerful ninja. Heck, I don't believe he knows anyone after Nagato's time, and this is a young Nagato (He didn't live to see Nagato as an adult, as he said 'it seems the brat had finally grown up'). Madara is so arrogant, so of course he will make out that the only man who could defeat him was some 'godly' figure. But in truth, Hashirama is on EMS Madara's level. All Madara is doing is trying to improve his own image.

And Madara by himself is already a beast. And without knowing the details, it was just a great job of Hashirama to defeat EMS Madara who arrived at the battlefield with Kurama.

Hashiramas power isn't just supported by Madaras statement but also by Kabutos, who can back up his statement with his great knowledge coming from his experiments and researches he has done over years together with Orochimaru. The focus is lying on Hashirama all the time, whether through statements from people like Madara or Dan or due to the bunch of people who are seeking for a part of Hashiramas power.

And just to mention, even Madara, who lost to Hashirama, was already considered to be an immortal and unbeatable Ninja, whose Name was already power - according to Tsunade.

Already the will (whatever it is) Hashirama left to Tsunade and the others is giving them the power to face Madara.

 

[Prince Charles]

hashirama>nagato. i can go all day with this.

 

[Orochimagus]

EMS Madara was already strong enough to hold back against TWO Tsuchikages AND still make them look weak. I don't think Nagato can do this. Hashirama beat Madara more than once. Nagato already claimed that Jiraiya could beat him if he knew his identity. J-man cannot beat Madara even if he knows his identity. Use LOGIC; Hashirama > Madara > Nagato

 

[Paintachi]

I kinda agree with you yeah lol.
+rep

 

[GorreVisor]

This underestimation to Hashirama makes me wonder, are you reading the Manga i do?

In versus threads with nagato ppl are claiming that nagato beats him and say hashirama is overrated. overrated? really? where is your head people?

those who say that hashirama is overated, just cant understand what kind of power this man had.

• Kabuto said that no one could reach Hashiramas level anymore
• Madara by himself said twice that only Hashirama could stop him
• Dan said, that only Hashirama could stop Madara
• Kabuto called him a fairy tale like the sage of the six paths and everyone agrees with this fact
  
  
  
  

This man was a god, he soloed EMS madara with the complete kyuubi, ppl are dont understand the power of this man but saying hes overrated and a piece of shit like nagato could beat him.

go and find your head people, Hashirama is a god.

if you disagree, counter Madaras own words, counter Kabutos own words who has the most knowledge, counter dans words.

cant believe how much trolls here are.

and do you know why hashirama can do this? because madaras STRONGEST technique, the perfect susanoo, which is more powerful than any rinnegan tech, got owned by hashirama together with kyuubi.

and his mokuton is NOTHING compared to hashiramas, he was the god who used the mokuton and destroyed kurama with the perfect susanoo.

and he had medical skills that are give a shit on tsunades.

never, NEVER call someone like nagato or someone else stronger than hashirama, because NARUTOS AUTHOR called him stronger.

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Stopped reading at "Perfect Susano'o is stronger than Rinnegan." Good points though, except this one. Also think Hashi is stronger than Nagato, but only because he was still a kid. a Full mature and wise Nagato would own him.

 

[Moon eye plan]

Hashirama was one of my favorite, until this came. People need to stop overrate Hashirama, the only way Hashirama can beat Madara (EMS) is because he can surpress chakra, like Yamato did to Kisame.

Hashirama is great, and I agree him > Hiruzen, however he would not beat current Naruto or else Edo Madara.

 

[Dubbuoo]

In your OP, you claimed "Kabuto said that no one could reach Hashiramas level anymore", when all he said was that there was no-one on his level anymore. There is actually a big difference between what you said and what the manga said. Also, I do believe Nagato was sealed at this point, so that quote would not have included him or many other ninja who had come before.

Dan's comment is so irrelevant. Dan does not know about Edo Madara's powerups. He only knows Madara in his EMS form, so of course he's going to say only Hashirama can stop him, because Hashirama defeated EMS Madara at VOTE. Dan's comment in no way implies that Hashirama > Edo Madara, or that Hashirama is on such a level.

Do you have any evidence that Hashirama's Mokuton > Madara's? Not saying you're wrong, just asking for some evidence.

Your final line is actually quite pathetic, because Nagato was a self proclaimed God and was called the 3rd Sage of 6 Paths. That alone trumps what was said about Hashirama.

Not saying Hashirama is weak or anything, but this thread is just there to turn the heads of the weakminded because of some poor wording and presentation of outright false statements.

how is dans statment irrelevent, when madara himself(who knows that he's been buffed considerably) also stated that only hashirama can beat him???

theres so many people that try to find the smallest bullsh!t to oppose what is correct...U_U

 

[Invsblphntm]

Nagato would **** Hashirama twice over.

 

[EliteKakashi]

how is dans statment irrelevent, when madara himself(who knows that he's been buffed considerably) also stated that only hashirama can beat him???

theres so many people that try to find the smallest bullsh!t to oppose what is correct...U_U

The issue is neither Dan nor Madara have seen every single ninja there's ever been, which automatically makes both of their statements invalid. It could very well be true, but it's not a factual statement. It's simply an opinion.

 

[Hattake Ryuzaki]

all logical fans know how powerful hashi is

 

[theph0necompany]

The issue is neither Dan nor Madara have seen every single ninja there's ever been, which automatically makes both of their statements invalid. It could very well be true, but it's not a factual statement. It's simply an opinion.

I agree furthermore madara said that the only person who could stop him was hashirama nothing about his strength. We know very little about hashirama lets get more information besides rumors and little scraps of his power inside other people before saying he is all powerful.

 

[Dubbuoo]

The issue is neither Dan nor Madara have seen every single ninja there's ever been, which automatically makes both of their statements invalid. It could very well be true, but it's not a factual statement. It's simply an opinion.

but we are not talking about "everyone" we are talking about hashirama and how underrated he is...
"Everyone" to me is irrelevent to this thread...

 

[zombiejesus]

not onluy nagato but tobi and naruto and edo madara would stomp his tree loving ass

 

[EliteKakashi]

but we are not talking about "everyone" we are talking about hashirama and how underrated he is...
"Everyone" to me is irrelevent to this thread...

You asked how his statement was irrelevant, I told you.

and lol @ Hashi being underrated.

He's considered one of the strongest ninjas in Narutoverse history by everyone on this forum. He's far from underrated.

 

[NakedNinja]

i understand his power is godly right under minatos. whats not to get?

 

[Naruto king of Shinobi]

In your OP, you claimed "Kabuto said that no one could reach Hashiramas level anymore", when all he said was that there was no-one on his level anymore. There is actually a big difference between what you said and what the manga said. Also, I do believe Nagato was sealed at this point, so that quote would not have included him or many other ninja who had come before.

Dan's comment is so irrelevant. Dan does not know about Edo Madara's powerups. He only knows Madara in his EMS form, so of course he's going to say only Hashirama can stop him, because Hashirama defeated EMS Madara at VOTE. Dan's comment in no way implies that Hashirama > Edo Madara, or that Hashirama is on such a level.

Do you have any evidence that Hashirama's Mokuton > Madara's? Not saying you're wrong, just asking for some evidence.

Your final line is actually quite pathetic, because Nagato was a self proclaimed God and was called the 3rd Sage of 6 Paths. That alone trumps what was said about Hashirama.

Not saying Hashirama is weak or anything, but this thread is just there to turn the heads of the weakminded because of some poor wording and presentation of outright false statements.

This^. Not only that, but madara and minato weren't even alive in the same time frame. And hiruzen was also a child-preteen(not even close to his legendary prime) when madara faught/lost against hashi. Harashima was the only ninja during madaras life who stopped him back then, that's why he always says that hashi is the only ninja that could stop him. Prime hiruzen/ Minato > EMS Madara. People are so simple minded its crazy.