By making such a statement Kabuto could mention a Ninja who was even stronger than this fairy tale strength. Also Tobi was alive when this statement was done by Kabuto who knew his powers well. So your argument to back up Nagatos strength would be actually in any case wrong.
well yes thats his only wrong point but people from this era arent on hashiramas level. edo madaras full power comes from his ems so if hashirama beat madaras perfect susano in the past then he can still beat madara.
Madara had just used a Hashirama technique, so of course the focus was going to be on Hashirama. What you don't understand is, my point about Kabuto's statement had nothing to do with hyping Nagato. It was actually to show that Hashirama is not on a tier of his own, as the statement by Kabuto proved.
Regardless. The Madara we are witnessing now is clearly on tier beyond EMS Madara, who himself is comparable to Hashirama. Limitless chakra, an undying body, the Rinnegan and access to Hashirama's powers are simply too much of a step up, and thus Dan's comment is rendered irrelevant.
Yes, Hashiramas technique Madara used was the best moment to talk about his powers, just like when Madara talked about Tsunade and compared her with Hashiramas medical skills. I mean Kabuto wouldn't start to talk about Hashiramas powers while Madara is fighting with the EMS. But yeah, different people, different opinions, I guess.
Just EMS because I am confused as to what actually went down in that final fight, although I know Hashirama > EMS Madara is canon. Part of me is saying "Hashirama is an absolute beast, he bested both Perfect Susanoo and the Kyuubi". But then I look at it objectively. It makes no sense for this to be true. Why? I don't understand how these two men could have so many stalemates prior to VOTE. Do you you understand? How can Hashirama make such a leap in power in order to best them both? Simply, i'm thinking it's possible he ended up using the Kyuubi against Madara in that fight. Or, trying to control the Ninetails whilst fighting Hashirama affected Madara's occular powers.
Hiruzen was very advanced in age and both brothers were Edo zombi with no feeling of pain and unlimited chakra supply, yet they were not able to take him down, and Hiruzen sealed them both successfully.
well it is possible that they both got stronger. there was a good time period between konohas founding and madara and hashiramas fight at VOTE. a year or 2 is more than enough time for a ninja to get stronger. tobi was able to fight perfectly fine with the kyuubi out. minato implied that there was some sort of time limit though but im not sure. but tobi was able to control 5 tailed beast(although he almost lost control of 1) purely with eye power. i feel that madara could fight efficiently with the kyuubi out for a good duration of the fight. the only reason that tobi couldnt fight alongside his beasts is because, he was also controlling the beasts through stakes and the user has to remain stationary to control the paths. if tobi can fight efficiently using only tailed beasts then there is no doubt in my mind that madara can fight efficiently alongside the kyuubi.
