Onmyoudon > Ninjutsu [Space time techniques included as being apart of Ninjutsu]

[BenjerminGaye]

Re: Onmyoudon > Ninjutsu [Space time techniques included as being apart of Ninjutsu]

However it doesn't exclude of possibility Kakashi being trapped between after life and real world. This what I got from the manga Kakashi died but didn't enter after life yet, that where he had his talk with father.

The same case seems to be for Obito and Rin... Imo it sounds reasonable what I said.

How can kakashi communicate with his father from some in between world you're making up?

 

[KCMNaruto]

Re: Onmyoudon > Ninjutsu [Space time techniques included as being apart of Ninjutsu]

How can kakashi communicate with his father from some in between world you're making up?

simply his father was stuck there due to having regrets...

while it seems everyone has to go through it if someone wait for you or it is bridge between real world and afterlife.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Re: Onmyoudon > Ninjutsu [Space time techniques included as being apart of Ninjutsu]

simply his father was stuck there due to having regrets...

while it seems everyone has to go through it if someone wait for you or it is bridge between real world and afterlife.

.....
I can't.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

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simply his father was stuck there due to having regrets...

while it seems everyone has to go through it if someone wait for you or it is bridge between real world and afterlife.

It's like ghosts, people can chose to stay behind if they want.

 

[Apêx1]

Re: Onmyoudon > Ninjutsu [Space time techniques included as being apart of Ninjutsu]

This guy.. This thread has become a collector's edition fallacy exhibition.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Re: Onmyoudon > Ninjutsu [Space time techniques included as being apart of Ninjutsu]

Obito didn't return from after life. Basically he was between Pure and impure world just Like Kakashi when he had his talk with his father. All of that was only shown for symbolic purpouse.

Yes he did return, but logically he could only return in form of chakra and he did so. Kakashi was not in between any world, Obito used kamui to get back he even states so himself.

the chakra of Obito simply didn't leave Obito's ashes yet and for that was symoblic meaning of Obito's return.
What happened was simple Obito's chakra left Obito's ashes and transfered into Kakashi who was close to Obito's ashes.

Stop speculating BS w/o any proof!!!! You die you get to pure world, that's it. Only thing symbolic there was their kid forms but as it was shown they could switch that shit U_U

@ bold part, please elaborate. I didn't see Kamui being used on Kaguya's TSB.

Why are you fixated on TSBs? It has shat on her S/T, her bones, her juubi's eradicating chakra. Mind you that this was empowered kaguya and made it possible to seal her while otherwise totally screwed team 7 w/o it.

 

[KCMNaruto]

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Yes he did return, but logically he could only return in form of chakra and he did so. Kakashi was not in between any world, Obito used kamui to get back he even states so himself.
Stop speculating BS w/o any proof!!!! You die you get to pure world, that's it. Only thing symbolic there was their kid forms but as it was shown they could switch that shit U_U
Why are you fixated on TSBs? It has shat on her S/T, her bones, her juubi's eradicating chakra. Mind you that this was empowered kaguya and made it possible to seal her while otherwise totally screwed team 7 w/o it.

Well if you believe someone can return from pure world, then I have no words to say how foolish and stupid this statement sounds.

Even Hagoromo has never entered pure world being stuck between words in some kind of plane/limbo so he would have to finish his job before leaving. Same with Kakashi's father waiting until talking with Kakashi. Same with Rin waiting for Obito.

Because TSB were hyped so much, no even mentioning Onmydouon.

@ bold part is assumption, as Kaguya just lost great amount of chakra and was at her much weaker state so in way BZ stating it would be more like Kaguya recharged her amount of chakra. BZ would compare her to her weakened state.

Anyway Past Kaguya would shit on that Kaguya and anyone else.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Re: Onmyoudon > Ninjutsu [Space time techniques included as being apart of Ninjutsu]

Well if you believe someone can return from pure world, then I have no words to say how foolish and stupid this statement sounds.

Your fodderomo can, but only on certain condition cuz he has no Authority of the Gods as he isnt one U_U Geez

Even Hagoromo has never entered pure world being stuck between words in some kind of plane/limbo so he would have to finish his job before leaving. Same with Kakashi's father waiting until talking with Kakashi. Same with Rin waiting for Obito.

Just another baseless BS. You just cant stop, half of what you say is BS and speculations.

Because TSB were hyped so much, no even mentioning Onmydouon.

It was already owned, why waste another panel on it? U_U

@ bold part is assumption, as Kaguya just lost great amount of chakra and was at her much weaker state so in way BZ stating it would be more like Kaguya recharged her amount of chakra. BZ would compare her to her weakened state.

She used IT chakra twice and 2nd time she was stated to be tier above then before, kamui still owned her with intangibility and snipe her bones.

Anyway Past Kaguya would shit on that Kaguya and anyone else.

I dare to say that this kaguya was stronger as she never had whole world under IT in the past.

 

[KCMNaruto]

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Your fodderomo can, but only on certain condition cuz he has no Authority of the Gods as he isnt one U_U Geez
Just another baseless BS. You just cant stop, half of what you say is BS and speculations.
It was already owned, why waste another panel on it? U_U
She used IT chakra twice and 2nd time she was stated to be tier above then before, kamui still owned her with intangibility and snipe her bones.

I dare to say that this kaguya was stronger as she never had whole world under IT in the past.

see, you needed to bash Hagoromo by typing "Fodderomo" and you call yourself unbiased. I has never typed "Fodderbito" in reply to you,so how can I take your words seriously ?

This is not Bull shit, you can not bring real logic to the manga, your words not mine, master U_U
Because you may be lucky one time, each next replication of same feat make anyone sure that you are really better then someone else or can do something instead of being lucky to do it one time.

Well but if She used IT before in the past, then almost all chakra belonged to her as only Hagoromo and Hamura had chakra except her so She should be much stronger in Past based on that premise. To make Hagoromo state that she was stronger then him as I believe he knew his strength/power as Juubi Jinchurki as well and included it in that statement and seeing how easily Team 7 dealt with Present time Kaguyga bring result that Past Kaguya >> Present Kaguya as logical premise

 

[AlphaScythian]

Re: Onmyoudon > Ninjutsu [Space time techniques included as being apart of Ninjutsu]

see, you needed to bash Hagoromo by typing "Fodderomo" and you call yourself unbiased. I has never typed "Fodderbito" in reply to you,so how can I take your words seriously ?

What does it have to do with anything? Im pretty sure that aside that you're wrong in this thread it was also concluded you are the one that cant be take seriously.

This is not Bull shit, you can not bring real logic to the manga, your words not mine, master U_U
Because you may be lucky one time, each next replication of same feat make anyone sure that you are really better then someone else or can do something instead of being lucky to do it one time.

Yes we go by real life logic until manga states otherwise. Surprise.

Well but if She used IT before in the past, then almost all chakra belonged to her as only Hagoromo and Hamura had chakra except her so She should be much stronger in Past based on that premise. To make Hagoromo state that she was stronger then him as I believe he knew his strength/power as Juubi Jinchurki as well and included it in that statement and seeing how easily Team 7 dealt with Present time Kaguyga bring result that Past Kaguya >> Present Kaguya as logical premise

Unlikely, due to the reason that chakra is ever regenerating and not set amount.
Say naruto is out of it, he gets some rest and regenerates it.
Having whole world doing so is clearly more beneficial seeing how kaguya could power herself up twice to a new tier while while team 7 couldnt.

What im saying is that kaguya's own chakra regeneration is far inferior to that of the world thus she got more chakra from IT then she once had.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Re: Onmyoudon > Ninjutsu [Space time techniques included as being apart of Ninjutsu]

What does it have to do with anything? Im pretty sure that aside that you're wrong in this thread it was also concluded you are the one that cant be take seriously.
Yes we go by real life logic until manga states otherwise. Surprise.
Unlikely, due to the reason that chakra is ever regenerating and not set amount.
Say naruto is out of it, he gets some rest and regenerates it.
Having whole world doing so is clearly more beneficial seeing how kaguya could power herself up twice to a new tier while while team 7 couldnt.

What im saying is that kaguya's own chakra regeneration is far inferior to that of the world thus she got more chakra from IT then she once had.

as I suspected, you didn't reffer to uncomfortable part of my post:

Because you may be lucky one time, each next replication of same feat make anyone sure that you are really better then someone else or can do something instead of being lucky to do it one time.

which was answer to your question: "why waste panel on it again " ?

Well I don't get it. Is that you are trying to say They can develop their chakra amount past their limits then in the past ?
or rather you imply Kaguya was able to regenerate chakra in no amount of time then got power up but taking more chakra ?

 

[AlphaScythian]

Re: Onmyoudon > Ninjutsu [Space time techniques included as being apart of Ninjutsu]

as I suspected, you didn't reffer to uncomfortable part of my post:

Im comfortable with that, part, calling some in different way doesnt make me biased to the feats.

Because you may be lucky one time, each next replication of same feat make anyone sure that you are really better then someone else or can do something instead of being lucky to do it one time.
which was answer to your question: "why waste panel on it again " ?

Oh crap both FTG and Kamui got lucky vs TSB, how odd, i guess it not because they dont come in contact with it or anything like you've already agreed

Well I don't get it. Is that you are trying to say They can develop their chakra amount past their limits then in the past ?
or rather you imply Kaguya was able to regenerate chakra in no amount of time then got power up but taking more chakra ?

Im saying that bunch of humans can regenerate chakra much faster then kaguya. In fact they regenerated it faster then she has wasted it. Thus even if their total amount is smaller to that of original kaguya they multiply it via higher regeneration.
Im also saying that humans reproduce chakra as they reproduce themselves leading in higher chakra quantity then original.

 

[KCMNaruto]

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Im comfortable with that, part, calling some in different way doesnt make me biased to the feats.
Oh crap both FTG and Kamui got lucky vs TSB, how odd, i guess it not because they dont come in contact with it or anything like you've already agreed

Im saying that bunch of humans can regenerate chakra much faster then kaguya. In fact they regenerated it faster then she has wasted it. Thus even if their total amount is smaller to that of original kaguya they multiply it via higher regeneration.
Im also saying that humans reproduce chakra as they reproduce themselves leading in higher chakra quantity then original.

Sure you have point. I would agree with all what you stated.

However I would be only fully convinced when Kamui or Hirashing worked on TSB or Onmyoudon once again,anyway I will believe in what you stated as there is nothing to disprove it and the opposite there is one use which succedd so although it may have weak value, it stil happens.

Besides same as your explanation I believe Past Kaguya is > Current Kaguya based on hype and feats. Current Kaguya was not intimidating so much... and didn't live up to it's hype

 

[AlphaScythian]

Re: Onmyoudon > Ninjutsu [Space time techniques included as being apart of Ninjutsu]

However I would be only fully convinced when Kamui or Hirashing worked on TSB or Onmyoudon once again,anyway I will believe in what you stated as there is nothing to disprove it and the opposite there is one use which succedd so although it may have weak value, it stil happens.

I dont think kishi wanted to transmit us idea that they got lucky, and you know, 99.999999% didnt have this impression.

Besides same as your explanation I believe Past Kaguya is > Current Kaguya based on hype and feats. Current Kaguya was not intimidating so much... and didn't live up to it's hype

She wasnt intimidating cuz she was pretty and lunatic, but she did live to hype.

She has 6 nasty dimensions under her rule, can unite with nature, very handy S/T portals for attacking, impossible to destroy with raw power, high regeneration, and TSB size of the moon.

Hype is all there, she just messed with kamui GG

 

[KCMNaruto]

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I dont think kishi wanted to transmit us idea that they got lucky, and you know, 99.999999% didnt have this impression.

She wasnt intimidating cuz she was pretty and lunatic, but she did live to hype.

She has 6 nasty dimensions under her rule, can unite with nature, very handy S/T portals for attacking, impossible to destroy with raw power, high regeneration, and TSB size of the moon.

Hype is all there, she just messed with kamui GG

Her hype and ability to switch dimension put her above Kamui, so guess what she didn't live up to her hype.
I am done with talking off topic.

OT: Kamui > Onmyoudon applied to physical object

Potentialy Onmyoudon working on astral/spiritual realm/plane > any ninjutsu [Kamui included]