OMG,Jiraiya IS stronger than Itachi!

[kotoamatsukami]

first off, don't compare sasuke ability with itachi' 2 diff thing's
2. don't slander the 2 elder frog-they are "SAGE" not idiot's, also they are
GEN JUTSU SPECAILIST did you not pay any attention to what they said when training naruto gosh i swear most of you guys make up your own stuff and skip things that kishi himself write.
3. in sage mode jiraiya is fast in his hand seal's for jutsu(guess what he doesn't even need to form hand seal's the frogs does it for him, and don't forget he build up chakra faster and double the amount he normal has in sage mode gosh just read the book before replying to my sht. you guys are seriously underestimating Jiriaya it took 5 of pain to take him out since he "killed one" and don't even try to feed me crap about itachi take out pein we both know pain was distracted and being control by someone who doesn't even know the full capability's of pein, so seriously man "READ what your itachi him self said what would happen, and what jiraiya said what would happen-because i am sure 10 out of 10 they did not make it up it was kishi himself who wrote it ok nice day to you.

u talk as if itachi has 2 let him rech sage mode

 

[kobi sugoichi kempachi]

akatsuki tries to make it sly as possible they try to get the jinchurkis when other strong ppl are not present, they don't try to go and take on a whole village. its hard for kages too always keep track of the jinchurkis and most of the time were not even fully aware of akatskui's intentions until they had their jinchurki stolen.

thats the point, they should have know that the jinchuurkis were getting taken whe the firts 6 got taken the 6th JinJu was the one that the black ops was trying to get bring back to the village. at least they had since. but they were too late.

 

[arv993]

thats the point, they should have know that the jinchuurkis were getting taken whe the firts 6 got taken the 6th JinJu was the one that the black ops was trying to get bring back to the village. at least they had since. but they were too late.

well thats the problem they were too careless that was exactly why gaara requested to have kage summit to stop occurrences like that but no one other than tsunade responded.

 

[kadowade]

Thanx for making that point. A J man with one of the Highest stamina of the characters, and a Itachi who somewhat limited do to his illness would have lost


Since you want to think criticaly about it, J man was So confident that he he could kill them both. Lets stop thinking about what Itachi real goals were
and lets talk about how J man would have killed them both. Why didnt J man run. All that Itachi real goal BS doest chang that fact that J man Was confident enough to fight them both. You pple need to STFU and realize that Nagato owns Itachi and J man owns them both.

okay? Jiraiya was confident enough to challenge both..and? Hinata was confident enough to fight neji....and lost.

Jiraiya also had goals, just like Itachi. Jiraiya's goal and objective as an Higher-up leaf ninja was to protect the 9 tails at ANY cost. So JIraiya would probably fight the Sage of 6 paths to protect Naruto, lol. So Itachi and Jiraiya both had goals, so i dont know what you mean by "stop thinking about Itachi's goals''. So you my freind need realize that Itachi can beat Jiraiya and Nagato.

 

[kobi sugoichi kempachi]

Orochimaru was also very confident when he met Itachi for the first time. We all know what happened next.

lol u funny lol -_-

Ok, I'v Been called a Jiraiya fanboy, A Minato fanboy, a Nagato fanboy,

Now I gest i'm a Orochimaru fan boy now.smh

I would be a Itachi fan but apparently im illergic to

Bullsh*t​

Oro was Had a Sharingan Fetish that got him Killed in the end.He was Such a Genius but he was so bind to the fact that that Whight Snake Jutsu weakness is that it makes you weak and vunerable when at the end of the cycal.

Oro wanted Itachi to use Ms Tsukyomi on him. They never fought at all. Dont make that irrelevent point ever agian.

 

[Rafeal brown]

Thanx for making that point. A J man with one of the Highest stamina of the characters, and a Itachi who somewhat limited do to his illness would have lost


Since you want to think criticaly about it, J man was So confident that he he could kill them both. Lets stop thinking about what Itachi real goals were
and lets talk about how J man would have killed them both. Why didnt J man run. All that Itachi real goal BS doest chang that fact that J man Was confident enough to fight them both. You pple need to STFU and realize that Nagato owns Itachi and J man owns them both.

Stamina isn't the only thing you need to win a fight if yes then junchurukis wouldn't lose a fight to nobody.

So what abt jiraiya been confident? And of wht good would it be if jiraiya abandoned naruto and sasuke just to flee away from itachi?

Lmao jiraiya can't beat nagato, jiraiya had prob with 3 paths of pain in fact he was forced to use his trump card "frog song" against 3 paths so how the hell will he beat nagato if he had prob with 3 paths?

 

[wellhellothere]

i am so SICK of people saying itachi was a nice guy the whole time and didnt want to kill anyone. please tell me what itachi says in this manga

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"its time for these people to dissapear kismae take kakshi out" obviously if gai didnt intervene itachi would have been responsible for ordering the death of a leaf ninja. Maybe itachi could kill Jairya maybe not BUT what would have happend if a weaker ninja was with naruto at the time? What if kakashi was the last line of defense against Kisame and Itachi? what would itachi say "oh hes to strong lets run?" Obviously Jiraiya was strong enough that itachi believed he was on his level maybe not as strong as him but enough to make it a good enough excuse to leave.

 

[OWanime]

yeah itachi would win if he wasn't secretly on konoha's side but since he's good jiraiya would win not knowing that itachi is really not trying to hurt him
kisame said he would lose to jiraiya and itachi said at the best he could pull off a stale mate
the databooks say that they both have a power level of 35.5 in pt 1

 

[Rafeal brown]

lol u funny lol -_-

Ok, I'v Been called a Jiraiya fanboy, A Minato fanboy, a Nagato fanboy,

Now I gest i'm a Orochimaru fan boy now.smh

I would be a Itachi fan but apparently im illergic to

Bullsh*t​

Oro was Had a Sharingan Fetish that got him Killed in the end.He was Such a Genius but he was so bind to the fact that that Whight Snake Jutsu weakness is that it makes you weak and vunerable when at the end of the cycal.

Oro wanted Itachi to use Ms Tsukyomi on him. They never fought at all. Dont make that irrelevent point ever agian.

lol oro fought and lost to itachi he even admitted itachi was stronger than him and that why he left akatsuki

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[Turson]

Oro wanted Itachi to use Ms Tsukyomi on him

Itachi never used Tsukuyomi on Orochimaru, that was 3-tomoe Sharingan illusion.

They never fought at all.

Oro tried to fight, its just that he ended up paralysed by Itachis gen, and get his hand cut off when he tried to break it.

Dont make that irrelevent point ever agian.

Want some more? Kabuto was also very confident about killing Naruto and Bee. Asuma thought that he was able to kill Itachi and Kisame. Jiraiya as well might have been confident, but its meaningless.

lol oro fought and lost to itachi he even admitted itachi was stronger than him and that why he left akatsuki

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[Allan Hoshigaki]

If you remember correctly itachi was never a bad guy dummy and lopved the viillage and all the ppl in it. itachi could seal jiariryia like he did nagato

 

[Rafeal brown]

Itachi never used Tsukuyomi on Orochimaru, that was 3-tomoe Sharingan illusion.

Oro tried to fight, its just that he ended up paralysed by Itachis gen, and get his hand cut off when he tried to break it.

Want some more? Kabuto was also very confident about killing Naruto and Bee. Asuma thought that he was able to kill Itachi and Kisame. Jiraiya as well might have been confident, but its meaningless.

Ill correct your link.

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Thnx. xd

 

[jlfs1195]

OWYB has opened my eyes:

Before: based off of reputation.​

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Itachi:"Even if I had more back up, it probably wouldn't change the outcome."​

During: based off of expectation.​

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Jiraiya: "You won't take Naruto..."
Itachi: "And why not?"​

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Itachi is already afraid of Jiraiya, and backing off.​

After: when knowledge is attained.​

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Kisame: Why is retreat necessary... for you?

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Jiraiya: his distance is the only thing stopping him...

Much later: with the plot twists.

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This actually does not apply to him running from Jiraiya. That was fear.​

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Nor does this.​

Conclusion​

It is clear that Jiraiya has been portrayed as stronger all along. Itachi's techniques like Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu, and Susano'o are perfectly countered by Jiraiya's method of fighting by looking at the feet, a super-reflexive shunshin when checking the Sharingan for a build-up to Amaterasu, and Yomi Numa, respectively. Itachi's other Sharingan Genjutsu won't work on a Sannin. Thus, Jiraiya will be able keep his hands clasped together for that mere minute to enter Hermit Mode, and if base Jiraiya can't just dodge all of Itachi's attacks and techniques himself in that minute without forming any hand seals, Gamabunta will easily hold Itachi off for a minute as Itachi has shown to be incapable of swiftly defeating large reptiles or amphibians, and the Sharingan has been shown incapable of instantly putting them in to a controlling Genjutsu. So I have to say, guys, I'm an Itachi fan, but it seems Jiraiya, like Itachi, is significantly stronger than Orochimaru, and even stronger than Itachi himself. That one time Orochimaru slammed him in to the ground without arms, incapacitating him long enough to severely wound Tsunade, was just because Jiraiya had bad chakra control, and was limited to his less hyped jutsu like Yomi Numa where as Orochimaru could use most of his jutsu without seals... even if he told Kabuto that he lost nearly all of the jutsu that he had ever learned along with his arms. So yeah, I'm sure Orochimaru would say similar things about Jiraiya, like that he was stronger than him, or that it was impossible to defeat him, instead of the opposite, and I'm positive that Orochimaru would avoid Jiraiya like he avoided Itachi, especially if he didn't have arms. It's all there in black and white.

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I would say they are about the same lvl maybe with itachi having a slight advantage cause of genjutsu which jiraya himself said to be his weakness. but then again itachi weakness is taijutsu which is jiraya matered more so in SM. but i still believe they are at the same lvl it all depends on the situation they fight each other.

 

[Kinimaster]

I said it once and im going to say it again, Itachi is stronger than Jiraiya, he just didnt want to fight him because it was the perfect excuse to make Kisame believe that Jiraiya was a reason to retreat and abort the mission, they were sent by Akatsuki to capture the 9 tails, Itachi just said everything to not capture Naruto, i even think that the genjutsu to the girl wasnt to take Jiraiya out of the picture, Itachi knew Jiraiya would see such a basic Genjutsu and realize Naruto was in danger. He didnt kill Kakashi, Kakashi himself was confused on why Itachi didnt just killed him. The only thing Itachi didnt expect was encountering Sasuke. Itachi is 35.5 overall status in the third databook, that was part 1 of the series mostly, im pretty sure he will be like 37 in the 4th, because most of his feats were done and shown in the second part( Sasuke fight and Edo), so please dont bring the stats up to the discussion, i seriously believe Masashi Kishimoto loves the Sharingan and specially Itachi, thats why he figured out a way to bring him back, while taking Nagato and the other Kage summons out really fast, and thats why 4 of the strongest ninja now are sharingan users( Itachi, Tobi, Sasuke and Kakashi), I also think Kisame could take Jiraiya since he could defeat Killer Bee, the perfect Jinkuriki of the 8 tails, possibly a character just as strong as current Naruto maybe slighty weaker.

 

[dmac23]

everybody on this damn site takes naruto too seriously. calm down and stop trying to be so hard over the internet. Jiraiya would win

 

[kotoamatsukami]

i am so SICK of people saying itachi was a nice guy the whole time and didnt want to kill anyone. please tell me what itachi says in this manga

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"its time for these people to dissapear kismae take kakshi out" obviously if gai didnt intervene itachi would have been responsible for ordering the death of a leaf ninja. Maybe itachi could kill Jairya maybe not BUT what would have happend if a weaker ninja was with naruto at the time? What if kakashi was the last line of defense against Kisame and Itachi? what would itachi say "oh hes to strong lets run?" Obviously Jiraiya was strong enough that itachi believed he was on his level maybe not as strong as him but enough to make it a good enough excuse to leave.

he had 2 make it look real in front of kisame itachi never wanted to fight them in the first place he probly knew gai was coming. an if kakashi was the last line of defence no worry itachi has a plan 4every thing.

 

[PositiveEmotions]

well from his thread itachi did say if they fought each other that they both would die there fore it would be a nice if they all went for the kill they both are smart

 

[wellhellothere]

he had 2 make it look real in front of kisame itachi never wanted to fight them in the first place he probly knew gai was coming. an if kakashi was the last line of defence no worry itachi has a plan 4every thing.

Oh, yeah your right i forgot itachi was also psychic and had sensory abilities. At the end of the day well never know whose stronger but i think who ever would have won would struggle to win

 

[TJ0001]

no hes not

 

[kobi sugoichi kempachi]

okay? Jiraiya was confident enough to challenge both..and? Hinata was confident enough to fight neji....and lost.

Jiraiya also had goals, just like Itachi. Jiraiya's goal and objective as an Higher-up leaf ninja was to protect the 9 tails at ANY cost. So JIraiya would probably fight the Sage of 6 paths to protect Naruto, lol. So Itachi and Jiraiya both had goals, so i dont know what you mean by "stop thinking about Itachi's goals''. So you my freind need realize that Itachi can beat Jiraiya and Nagato.

lol Hinata?

realy??_O-

realy???:rofl:

realy????:|

I'm not even going to dignify that with a awnser.


and is "Friend" Lil Jimmie.

This is how the battle will go with Nagato and Itachi

Danm, they deleted the Nagato vs Itachi thread I was going to get it off there but oh well. Those solid points Have ""Died Silently"" with Itachi.