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I think oda made a mistake making shanks lose an arm to a random sea-king that luffy later pwn´d when setting off on his journey, he could´ve just made shanks save luffy and still retain his arm, this wasn´t necessary and he could´ve used his haki from a distance.

All i´m saying is that shanks losing his arm didn´t need to happen and if he had to do it, let him lose an arm on a huge battle or something, let him lose it for something worthy, going to the most harmless place in the op world, east blue and yourself being a yonkou and then lose an arm when saving a kid.

That is a letdown, why did oda bother to later in the series show us how great he is when he has showed him like that, just say he´s luffy relative or something and have someone else as a yonkou, someone that doesn´t lose limbs just because.
 
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That's not a mistake, that's just progressing the story, it shows How much Luffy has improved and also showed how much Shanks cared for Luffy and his friends.
 

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I must admit, I thought about why he had to lose his arm aswell.. but this just makes Shanks more awesome because he's still one of the 4 strongest pirates with only 1 arm. :cool:
 

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That's not a mistake, that's just progressing the story, it shows How much Luffy has improved and also showed how much Shanks cared for Luffy and his friends.
I must admit, I thought about why he had to lose his arm aswell.. but this just makes Shanks more awesome because he's still one of the 4 strongest pirates with only 1 arm. :cool:
Exactly. Lesson over.
 

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That's not a mistake, that's just progressing the story, it shows How much Luffy has improved and also showed how much Shanks cared for Luffy and his friends.
There is nothing progressing in the story and what does luffy improving have to do with shanks losing an arm?
Tell me, how would the story be different if shanks saved luffy and retained his arm, shanks was already one of the strongest with his arm and he wasn´t so strong that oda needed to weaken him, that´s the mistake.

Exactly. Lesson over.
Shut up dude, if you don´t have anything to say the kindly-------->GTFO
 
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There is nothing progressing in the story and what does luffy improving have to do with shanks losing an arm?
Tell me, how would the story be different if shanks saved luffy and retained his arm, shanks was already one of the strongest with his arm and he wasn´t so strong that oda needed to weaken him, that´s the mistake.
Huh,

This isn't Naruto.

This shows Luffy has improved because of his control over his Devil Fruit.

and also In what way exactly did it affect Shanks strength?
 

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Shanks wasn't a Yonkou at the time he left Luffy's home in East Blue...as far as we know it was just the beginning of his adventure.
 

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it shows that a future yonkou doesn't give a damn about losing an arm if he could save Luffy's life with it.

At that point Luffy realized what kind of person Shanks really is and that is what drove him to become pirate king.

So no progress in the story ? Without that arm being bitten off there probably wouldn't even be Luffy the pirate.

besides it's a bit symbolical too. Shank's could've beaten an army of those seamonsters probably but the only thing he cared for was Luffy not getting hurt.
 
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There is nothing progressing in the story and what does luffy improving have to do with shanks losing an arm?
Tell me, how would the story be different if shanks saved luffy and retained his arm, shanks was already one of the strongest with his arm and he wasn´t so strong that oda needed to weaken him, that´s the mistake.
The fact that Shanks lost an arm just to protect him taught Luffy how being a pirate is more than just partying and sailing, is about protecting your nakamas and sacrifices too.

It's one of the most important lessons he learns from Shanks and it's one of the reasons he later decides to become a pirate, that's what he told Ace when they were kids too and it was the reason Ace later seeked out Shanks to thank him for saving his brother.
 

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it shows that a future yonkou doesn't give a damn about losing an arm if he could save Luffy's life with it.

At that point Luffy realized what kind of person Shanks really is and that is what drove him to become pirate king.

So no progress in the story ? Without that arm being bitten off there probably wouldn't even be Luffy the pirate.

besides it's a bit symbolical too. Shank's could've beaten an army of those seamonsters probably but the only thing he cared for was Luffy not getting hurt.
Luffy could be just as thankful and inspired for shanks saving him without losing an arm and he wanted to become a pirate before that, he was inspired by shanks before that, this wasn´t needed, it didn´t make a difference in the story but only served to weaken shanks although some random pirate said that he wasn´t weakened in anyway, i don´t believe that in the least, with one arm gone, he can only fight with a sword and he doesn´t have a free arm so that leaves him vulnerable, why did you people think mihawk didn´t want to fight him anymore?

He knew he was weaker and that´s why they didn´t fight anymore, they were always equals and mihawk knows that he can beat shanks now that he´s one arm less.

Shanks losing an arm in the begining was more pointless then skypiea, atleast skypiea foreshadowed haki, gave the strawhats the money to build sunny, learn more things about roger and left things to the future like eneru flying towards his dream-place or something like that, i´m sure we´ll see him in the new-world.
 
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Luffy could be just as thankful and inspired for shanks saving him without losing an arm and he wanted to become a pirate before that, he was inspired by shanks before that, this wasn´t needed, it didn´t make a difference in the story but only served to weaken shanks although some random pirate said that he wasn´t weakened in anyway, i don´t believe that in the least, with one arm gone, he can only fight with a sword and he doesn´t have a free arm so that leaves him vulnerable, why did you people think mihawk didn´t want to fight him anymore?

He knew he was weaker and that´s why they didn´t fight anymore, they were always equals and mihawk knows that he can beat shanks now that he´s one arm less.
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None of that was ever even stated by Mihawk. With just one arm, he stopped Akainu's punch, and literally ended the war right there. And I can assure you, that it wasn't that Mihawk didn't want to fight him out of pity.(And we all know that).
When Shanks showed up during the Whitebeard War, Mihawk left the battle, stating that fighting Shanks was beyond the scope of the World Government's orders.
Meaning Mihawk still knew how dangerous of an opponent Shanks is and how theres no need to get involved in a fight like that if it can be avoided.
Yes, without both arms, he can't be as capable as he could be with two, but he is a Yonkou regardless. With one arm, he is still one of the strongest characters in the entire series.
his raw physical power is considered equal to that of Whitebeard and "losing an arm did not weaken him in any way".
Hell, even the pumped up Blackbeard declined to Shank's offer to fight.

That said, having only one arm yet still being one of the strongest and most badass characters is one reason why fans like him so much.
 
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None of that was ever even stated by Mihawk. With just one arm, he stopped Akainu's punch, and literally ended the war right there. And I can assure you, that it wasn't that Mihawk didn't want to fight him out of pity.(And we all know that).

Meaning Mihawk still knew how dangerous of an opponent Shanks is and how theres no need to get involved in a fight like that if it can be avoided.
Yes, without both arms, he can't be as capable as he could be with two, but he is a Yonkou regardless. With one arm, he is still one of the strongest characters in the entire series.

Hell, even the pumped up Blackbeard declined to Shank's offer to fight.

That said, having only one arm yet still being one of the strongest and most badass characters is one reason why fans like him so much.
I didn´t mean the war, mihawk and shanks are friends, that´s why he didn´t want to fight him at the war but the reason they stopped having their duels at the grandline was because shanks lost an arm and mihawk didn´t want to fight him anymore because of that.

Where the hell did you get the information that shanks strength is on the lvl of whitebeard, you dreaming bro? Stop taking shit out of one piece wiki!
 

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I didn´t mean the war, mihawk and shanks are friends, that´s why he didn´t want to fight him at the war but the reason they stopped having their duels at the grandline was because shanks lost an arm and mihawk didn´t want to fight him anymore because of that.

Where the hell did you get the information that shanks strength is on the lvl of whitebeard, you dreaming bro? Stop taking shit out of one piece wiki!
There wasn't even the name "Whitebeard" in his text. "you even reading bro?"
Also, why do you think Mihawk didn't want to fight him because of that, that's based on your opinion.
 

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Shanks losing an arm in the begining was more pointless then skypiea, atleast skypiea foreshadowed haki, gave the strawhats the money to build sunny, learn more things about roger and left things to the future like eneru flying towards his dream-place or something like that, i´m sure we´ll see him in the new-world.
Red and Green contradict eachother, at first you said that Skypeia was pointless but then you contradicted it.
 

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Shanks was able to defeat a Yonko and make it to Marineford in one day, then he single handedly ended the war offering to fight anyone who still had the will to. Even Blackbeard who had just acquired a second devil fruit turned down the challenge. He was also seen aboard whitebeards ship, and dueled with whitebeard and was on par with him even with one arm.
 

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I didn´t mean the war, mihawk and shanks are friends, that´s why he didn´t want to fight him at the war but the reason they stopped having their duels at the grandline was because shanks lost an arm and mihawk didn´t want to fight him anymore because of that.

Where the hell did you get the information that shanks strength is on the lvl of whitebeard, you dreaming bro? Stop taking shit out of one piece wiki!
Well duh, if I was the strongest swordsmen in the world, I wouldn't want to continue dueling a friend of mine who lost his arm either.

Are you just slow or what? If Shanks wasn't so powerful, explain how he stopped Akainu's punch with a single arm and sword. I never said he was stronger then WB, but as a Yonko swordsmen, he is just as dangerous and that much is obvious. As I said, we haven't even seen him fight, but not even Blackbeard or the Admirals would fight him.

There wasn't even the name "Whitebeard" in his text. "you even reading bro?"
Also, why do you think Mihawk didn't want to fight him because of that, that's based on your opinion.
Red and Green contradict eachother, at first you said that Skypeia was pointless but then you contradicted it.
Shanks was able to defeat a Yonko and make it to Marineford in one day, then he single handedly ended the war offering to fight anyone who still had the will to. Even Blackbeard who had just acquired a second devil fruit turned down the challenge. He was also seen aboard whitebeards ship, and dueled with whitebeard and was on par with him even with one arm.
Thank you. Hopefully now he'll get it.
 
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Oda is a God, therefore a perfect being. Oda doesn't make mistakes. EVER.

Shanks losing an arm to save Luffy, when he could have saved him without losing the arm isn't a mistake. There are many reasons for Shanks to lose that arm. Shanks losing his arm is the foundation of Luffy becoming the pirate he is today.

Yes, Luffy would have been grateful that Shanks saved him that day without losing an arm. But as Shanks told Whitebeard; Shanks bet his arm on the new age, he bet it on Luffy.

Luffy seeing Shanks sacrifice his own arm to save him, is what made Luffy who he is today. Shanks sacrificing an arm for Luffy, makes Luffy feel like Shanks is a pirate who Luffy owes a great deal to. Shanks is the kind of pirate Luffy wanna become. A pirate who doesn't give a second thought about his own well-being and does whatever is necessary to save his friends. Throughout the series Luffy has charged headfirst into any danger there is, in order to save a friend, or help a friend. That is why Shanks lost his arm right there.

Read it however you will, but him losing his arm wasn't a mistake at all.
 
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