Odas mistake

[~Yubel~]

Red and Green contradict eachother, at first you said that Skypeia was pointless but then you contradicted it.

lol ok, it wasn´t that pointless, i liked the arc and the fact that they were in the sky but it was more pointless then other arcs

Shanks was able to defeat a Yonko and make it to Marineford in one day, then he single handedly ended the war offering to fight anyone who still had the will to. Even Blackbeard who had just acquired a second devil fruit turned down the challenge. He was also seen aboard whitebeards ship, and dueled with whitebeard and was on par with him even with one arm.

You shouldn´t even be here, who said shanks defeated another yonkou, he was simply contacting him and there isn´t nothing even slighty refering that shanks beat kaido, he made it there in 1 day from the new world but big deal, that isn´t a feat known to shanks, it´s their ship having traveled very quickly, it doesn´t say anything about shanks being strong or anything.

I know he was badass at the war but blackbeard already got what he wanted and he didn´t feel the need to risk his crews life after the trouble he went through to get them, besides, the situation wasn´t exactly in his favor seeing as he had sengoku,garp and red-hair pirates opposing him, same thing goes for when they ran from akainu.

Dude, whitebeard would murder shanks, they only had a simple clash, just like the shichibukai, the yonkou isn´t a rank, one yonkou could be more powerful then another, in a real battle whitebeard would win with mid-difficulty.

Thank you. Hopefully now he'll get it.

Excuse me but before you hide behind others, this is what you quoted when you quoted my comment

his raw physical power is considered equal to that of Whitebeard and "losing an arm did not weaken him in any way".

That´s why i said that shanks strength is nowhere near whitebeards.

 

[Anduril]

Oda is a God, therefore a perfect being. Oda doesn't make mistakes. EVER.

Shanks losing an arm to save Luffy, when he could have saved him without losing the arm isn't a mistake. There are many reasons for Shanks to lose that arm. Shanks losing his arm is the foundation of Luffy becoming the pirate he is today.

Yes, Luffy would have been grateful that Shanks saved him that day without losing an arm. But as Shanks told Whitebeard; Shanks bet his arm on the new age, he bet it on Luffy.

Luffy seeing Shanks sacrifice his own arm to save him, is what made Luffy who he is today. Shanks sacrificing an arm for Luffy, makes Luffy feel like Shanks is a pirate who Luffy owes a great deal to. Shanks is the kind of pirate Luffy wanna become. A pirate who doesn't give a second thought about his own well-being and does whatever is necessary to save his friends. Throughout the series Luffy has charged headfirst into any danger there is, in order to save a friend, or help a friend. That is why Shanks lost his arm right there.

Read it however you will, but him losing his arm wasn't a mistake at all.

Exactly there is more to shanks than meets the eye..

I mean he is one of the most shrewd pirates... and i guess he also knew luffy's lineage from garp to dragon ... I bet he has some huge plans involving luffy and i would not be amazed if it turns out that shanks tries using luffy for his gain as the series progresses...

 

[Dracule]

Excuse me but before you hide behind others, this is what you quoted when you quoted my comment

That´s why i said that shanks strength is nowhere near whitebeards.

And who am I hiding behind? Just because I agree with them?
And I posted that quote because you seem to think that Shanks couldn't stand up to WB.

 

[Mugiwara]

Excuse me but before you hide behind others, this is what you quoted when you quoted my comment

That´s why i said that shanks strength is nowhere near whitebeards.

Whitebeard is dead, Shanks is not. Whitebeard doesn't have any strength now.
Shanks strength is far beyond whitebeards strength.
One arm or two arms, Shanks is still a Yonkou, and there hasn't been a single pirate to claim his throne as Yonkou. So that is a feat of strength right there. He is currently one of the 4 most powerful Pirates out there.
(Kaidou, Big Mam, Blackbeard(I assume he is the 4th yonkou after Whitebeards death, who knows), Shanks).

 

[~Yubel~]

Oda is a God, therefore a perfect being. Oda doesn't make mistakes. EVER.

Shanks losing an arm to save Luffy, when he could have saved him without losing the arm isn't a mistake. There are many reasons for Shanks to lose that arm. Shanks losing his arm is the foundation of Luffy becoming the pirate he is today.

Yes, Luffy would have been grateful that Shanks saved him that day without losing an arm. But as Shanks told Whitebeard; Shanks bet his arm on the new age, he bet it on Luffy.

Luffy seeing Shanks sacrifice his own arm to save him, is what made Luffy who he is today. Shanks sacrificing an arm for Luffy, makes Luffy feel like Shanks is a pirate who Luffy owes a great deal to. Shanks is the kind of pirate Luffy wanna become. A pirate who doesn't give a second thought about his own well-being and does whatever is necessary to save his friends. Throughout the series Luffy has charged headfirst into any danger there is, in order to save a friend, or help a friend. That is why Shanks lost his arm right there.

Read it however you will, but him losing his arm wasn't a mistake at all.

Luffy was still someone who would do anything to for a friend, he got beaten by the bandit all because he talked trash about him so he had already that quality of putting yourself on the line before shanks lost an arm infact it was because luffy put himself on the line for shanks that the bandit took him out to sea which ended in shanks losing an arm.
Just face it, shanks losing an arm didn´t do anything for neither luffy or for himself.

Luffy´s character was built on it´s own but shanks only inspired him to become a pirate and became a role-model, he cried for shanks but he didn´t learn anything he didn´t already had, sorry but your god made a mistake.

 

[Love Cook]

sorry but your god made a mistake.

Who the hell are you to tell Oda he made a mistake..

It is his story. It happened in the first chapter. I doubt Oda would drop the ball in chapter 1. He thought about this and he thougt about this well. So how can it be a mistake if it was Oda's choice ?

Just because it doesn't stoke with your opinion doesn't mean Oda made a mistake.

You made a mistake by opening this thread
Oda is still the god.

 

[Monkey d garp]

Exactly there is more to shanks than meets the eye..

I mean he is one of the most shrewd pirates... and i guess he also knew luffy's lineage from garp to dragon ... I bet he has some huge plans involving luffy and i would not be amazed if it turns out that shanks tries using luffy for his gain as the series progresses...

yeah i know what you mean maybe shanks uses luffy as a tool to get to unicon and he needs the voice of all things or something like this still think he is a good guy but wouldn´t be to suprised

 

[Dracule]

My goodness this boy is a slow one......we've dumbed it down so much.....

 

[Roy]

Why do you guys even bother? He's way too stubborn

 

[Monkey d garp]

Who the hell are you to tell Oda he made a mistake..

It is his story. It happened in the first chapter. I doubt Oda would drop the ball in chapter 1. He thought about this and he thougt about this well. So how can it be a mistake if it was Oda's choice ?

Just because it doesn't stoke with your opinion doesn't mean Oda made a mistake.

You made a mistake by opening this thread
Oda is still the god.

Man you guys are exaggerating i am a real one piece addict and to think it wouldn´t be there anymore i would probably die from sadness but don´t praise oda as a god he is still human who created an amazing but still a fictional series

 

[Dracule]

Man you guys are exaggerating i am a real one piece addict and to think it wouldn´t be there anymore i would probably die from sadness but don´t praise oda as a god he is still human who created an amazing but still a fictional series

They aren't serious. We call him a god as in unlike Kishi and others, Oda hasn't made any serious mistakes. OP fans don't question OP him like Naruto fans do. Everyday theres a "Minato can beat ___" thread or a "___ is overrated/underrated" thread etc, which lead to arguements. Oda makes things clear for his fans and thats why people praise him like this.

This guy however, just doesn't know what hes talking about, otherwise, we wouldn't be telling him this stuff. There isn't a single person here who agrees with him.

 

[~Yubel~]

Who the hell are you to tell Oda he made a mistake..

It is his story. It happened in the first chapter. I doubt Oda would drop the ball in chapter 1. He thought about this and he thougt about this well. So how can it be a mistake if it was Oda's choice ?

Just because it doesn't stoke with your opinion doesn't mean Oda made a mistake.

You made a mistake by opening this thread
Oda is still the god.

I´m not saying he dropped the ball but he just made things pointless, he´s a yonkou who rule the second half of the grand-line, a situation like that should be normal everyday occurences to him, he goes not to the first part of the grandline but freaking east blue, a very peaceful place compared to the new-world especially since people of the new world like to call the first part of gl "paradise".

Someone like that loses his arm like that and i would be cool if oda would just leave him as a normal character but he just had go and tell us later in the series that he´s one of the strongest which leaves a question-mark for smart people.

That´s why he made a mistake and for the thousanth time, him losing an arm was pointless either way.

 

[Haruno Hyuuga Yamanaka]

I´m not saying he dropped the ball but he just made things pointless, he´s a yonkou who rule the second half of the grand-line, a situation like that should be normal everyday occurences to him, he goes not to the first part of the grandline but freaking east blue, a very peaceful place compared to the new-world especially since people of the new world like to call the first part of gl "paradise".

Someone like that loses his arm like that and i would be cool if oda would just leave him as a normal character but he just had go and tell us later in the series that he´s one of the strongest which leaves a question-mark for smart people.

That´s why he made a mistake and for the thousanth time, him losing an arm was pointless either way.

First of all, as said before in this thread, he wasn't Yonkou at that time... Shanks had started gathering his crew before re-entering the Grand Line (he had been there with Roger, not with his crew) for example picking up Yasopp at Syrup, an encounter you can see in the ova that comes with Strong World.

Second, it's not pointless. You think he could fight a sea king under normal circumstances, but this wasn't normal circumstances... there was a little boy who can't swim drowning and a monster advancing towards him. If you watch the encounter again, you see it wasn't like Shanks could do much... if he hadn't step up and grabbed Luffy he would've drowned. If he tried to attack the monster and then catch Luffy, he would've already drowned. He decided to sacrifice an arm to keep Luffy safe, he knew he would make a great pirate one day and he didn't deserve to die there.

Do you really think that if he could keep both his arms and Luffy safe, he wouldn't have done it? Honestly, Shanks isn't stupid, and neither is Oda. And to Shanks, losing an arm was nothing when comapred to losing a live, so he lost his arm to preserve Luffy's life.

Is it clear now?

 

[Heister]

I´m not saying he dropped the ball but he just made things pointless, he´s a yonkou who rule the second half of the grand-line, a situation like that should be normal everyday occurences to him, he goes not to the first part of the grandline but freaking east blue, a very peaceful place compared to the new-world especially since people of the new world like to call the first part of gl "paradise".

Someone like that loses his arm like that and i would be cool if oda would just leave him as a normal character but he just had go and tell us later in the series that he´s one of the strongest which leaves a question-mark for smart people.

That´s why he made a mistake and for the thousanth time, him losing an arm was pointless either way.

You understand that shanks wasn't a Yonko at that point in the story, right?

 

[sexyprep1]

Your asking a stupid question :|

Shanks doesn't need 2 arms to be a Yonkou....

LOL ty this is a useless thread

 

[Heister]

Love how he stopped responding when he finally realized that Shanks wasn't a Yonkou yet :/

 

[Haruno Hyuuga Yamanaka]

Love how he stopped responding when he finally realized that Shanks wasn't a Yonkou yet :/

No one replies when they realize they're wrong for some reason. xd

 

[Dracule]

Love how he stopped responding when he finally realized that Shanks wasn't a Yonkou yet :/

Because he knows his argument is a fail? I still haven't seen one person who agrees with him. This thread might as well be closed now, this doesn't need to go on further.

Class dismissed! :faust:

 

[Uchiha seeker]

There is nothing progressing in the story and what does luffy improving have to do with shanks losing an arm?
Tell me, how would the story be different if shanks saved luffy and retained his arm, shanks was already one of the strongest with his arm and he wasn´t so strong that oda needed to weaken him, that´s the mistake.

luffy would be dead if shanks didnt save him cause he would have drowned cause he ate the Gomu Gomu fruit

 

[~Yubel~]

Love how he stopped responding when he finally realized that Shanks wasn't a Yonkou yet :/

Excuse me, yonkou or not he was still at mihawks level and he could use haki so oda could´ve just made him do that without sacrificing himself, he sailed with his crew to the grandline and became a yonkou, however he wasn´t stronger but weaker.