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Edo Odin

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This is the list take it from an expert :|

1.Obito
2.Nagato
3.Itachi
4.Kisame/Kakuzu
5.Kakuzu/Kisame
6.Deidara
7.Sasori
8.Konan
9.Hidan
10.Zetsu
Taka is not akatsuki

Anyone wants to argue is dead wrong
Zetsu should be above Hidan. His versatile moves and his ability to multiply himself and go underground, combined with his Hōshi no Jutsu puts him above someone who's chances of winning completely depend on whether he'll be able to draw blood from the user or not, which in most cases, will not be possible.
 

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Zetsu should be above Hidan. His versatile moves and his ability to multiply himself and go underground, combined with his Hōshi no Jutsu puts him above someone who's chances of winning completely depend on whether he'll be able to draw blood from the user or not, which in most cases, will not be possible.
Making Hidan the weakest Akatsuki Member will cause that one very annoying Hidan fanboy to rage all over this thread. I think we should just.. Give Obito563 or whatever this.
 

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This list is silly. Orochimaru left Akatsuki, Taka isn't officially a-part of the Akatsuki either. Following this logic, Madara and Kabuto should be added to the Akatsuki as well.
 

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Making Hidan the weakest Akatsuki Member will cause that one very annoying Hidan fanboy to rage all over this thread. I think we should just.. Give Obito563 or whatever this.

Kisame should be easily the 4th strongest, but Kakuzu fanboys, have a problem. X_X People are so sad bro.
 

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Making Hidan the weakest Akatsuki Member will cause that one very annoying Hidan fanboy to rage all over this thread. I think we should just.. Give Obito563 or whatever this.
I'm aware, but as of now, his continuous arguments about how Hidan can take on anyone in the NV have not yet been able to sway my opinion on this.
 

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Zetsu should be above Hidan. His versatile moves and his ability to multiply himself and go underground, combined with his Hōshi no Jutsu puts him above someone who's chances of winning completely depend on whether he'll be able to draw blood from the user or not, which in most cases, will not be possible.


Not really his CQC and durability is highly overlooked .. His spores are not effecting hidan because running out of chakra does nothing... And his curse needs 0 chakra.. Zetsu has nothing to really touch Hidan


@King Hashi- No not really ..kakuzu just has a good chance against him and regardless of who wins it is one of the closest matchups .... ever Imo
 

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Ka-Ka- Kakuzu at 10 .. :what: bad list .. for other reasons as well but that one hurt the most :'(

Ok I'm confused, somebody explain why Kakuzu can defeat a lot of the Akatsuki.

Team Taka quit Akatsuki...
Orochimaru was kicked out of Akatsuki...

Suigetsu > Hidan?! Really?!
Kisame below Sasori and Deidara?! Really?!

Why is Yahiko there? He's featless.

This thread is funny in so many ways xD

Orochimaru & Taka were still in the Akatsuki right? That's all that matters.

Suigetsu's body is made out of water, And Hidan needs Blood for his ritual.

And Deidara can use micro Bombs to Kill Kisame, And Sasori is a puppet. Water cant kill him if he doesn't even need to breathe.

Pays to know your Naruto Facts :hint:

orachimaru is one of the weaker ones. he himself admits that he is not even close to being as strong as itachi.

Orochimaru has Edo Tensei.

Sasori has flamethrowers GG, Kisame has GSB GG, Deidara has C3 GG, Kakuzu has Fire Jutsus GG

You said Pain 0.o and Pain can counter it since the other paths can break him out of it or Nagato can free his paths and also Itachi is famous for his genjutsu, Pain wouldn't look at his eyes. Nagato is also very good at genjutsu since he made traps in the mind of an Amegakure Shinobi and he's a sensor and he also mastered Yin Release which is the basis of Genjutsu and he has the Rinnegan.

Why is he above Hidan, and the rest of Taka then?

Deidara's bombs are countered by Raiton:Gian. Sasori's attacks are tanked by Doton:Domu which hardens Kakuzu's body in other words he can't get poisoned. Sasori has nothing that can destroy Domu.

1: Are you forgetting that Konan made a Sea of paper bombs when she fought Tobi. Explain how Kisame counters that.

2: Konan can fly, She can counter All of Deidara's Techniques.

3 Konan isn't simply going to stand in front of a Koton attack. She can fly and Avoid them all. Kakuzu & Sasori can't fly.

4: in the Jiraiya Vs Pain fight, the Pains vision is linked. If one gets hit by Genjutsu them they all get put into.

5: You must of not read the Big Bold Text.

Itachi not at the number one spot, well this list is obviously inacccurate.

Your List is wrong wrong

Pain's Advantages:
- Numbers
- Rinnegan > Mangekyou Sharingan
- Powers of the Sage of the Six Paths

Don't even use the recent Naruto, Bee and Edo Itachi vs Edo Nagato as a reason.
Nagato was distracted by Naruto and Bee and Itachi just took the chance.

Rinnegan has no counter for Itachi's Genjutsu.
 

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I'm aware, but as of now, his continuous arguments about how Hidan can take on anyone in the NV have not yet been able to sway my opinion on this.
I think it'd be for the best to just baby him. It'd be less annoying that way. Dealing with his arguments that is.
Kisame should be easily the 4th strongest, but Kakuzu fanboys, have a problem. X_X People are so sad bro.
Kakuzu and Kisame are pretty solidly matched. I and another have been discussing the subject and we came to the conclusion that it's far too close of a match up. If either side makes one mistake, it could spell out defeat.

Not really his CQC and durability is highly overlooked .. His spores are not effecting hidan because running out of chakra does nothing... And his curse needs 0 chakra.. Zetsu has nothing to really touch Hidan


@King Hashi- No not really ..kakuzu just has a good chance against him and regardless of who wins it is one of the closest matchups .... ever Imo

Zexion once again knows his shit!
 

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orachimaru is one of the weaker ones. he himself admits that he is not even close to being as strong as itachi.

Uchiha Eyes is the only weakest point for Orochimaru
But he is PowerFul to Non Uchiha Ninjas , he is Very hard to kill and has Powerful summons not to mention he is Immortal

Itachi is a Special Case ..
 

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Ok I'm confused, somebody explain why Kakuzu can defeat a lot of the Akatsuki.



Orochimaru & Taka were still in the Akatsuki right? That's all that matters.

Suigetsu's body is made out of water, And Hidan needs Blood for his ritual.

And Deidara can use micro Bombs to Kill Kisame, And Sasori is a puppet. Water cant kill him if he doesn't even need to breathe.

Pays to know your Naruto Facts :hint:



Orochimaru has Edo Tensei.



1: Are you forgetting that Konan made a Sea of paper bombs when she fought Tobi. Explain how Kisame counters that.

2: Konan can fly, She can counter All of Deidara's Techniques.

3 Konan isn't simply going to stand in front of a Koton attack. She can fly and Avoid them all. Kakuzu & Sasori can't fly.

4: in the Jiraiya Vs Pain fight, the Pains vision is linked. If one gets hit by Genjutsu them they all get put into.

5: You must of not read the Big Bold Text.



Your List is wrong wrong



Rinnegan has no counter for Itachi's Genjutsu.


He has raiton so right from the get go you should know he beats Deidara...Sasori he beats due to Domu tanking iron sand and his massive AoE jutsu reducing his 100 puppets to dust, he beats konan.. because Wind Blows away paper lol .. And hidan and zetsu should not even be debatable
 

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Orchimaru always had edo tensei. he still came to terms that he was incapable of doing anything against. not to mention that with edos he still got his arms taken by old ass Hiruzen.

the Same Old Hurizen who Soloed Edo Hashirama as well ..

your Point ?

but in the end Hurizen Died and Orochimaru lived
So he is the Winner
 

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1: Obito Uchiha

2: Orochimaru

3: Sasuke Uchiha

4: Itachi Uchiha

5: Nagato (Pain)

6: Konan

7: Sasori

8: Deidara

9: Kakuzu

10: Kisame Hoshigaki

11: Yahiko

12: Zetsu

13: Suigetsu

14: Hidan

15: Jugo

16: Karin


Please Note that Top 10's are a Overall Showing on who is Strongest and Weakest, some Character are placed below other Characters that they can defeat.

I Placed Sasuke 3rd because I'm Assuming he has Perfect Susano'o because Naruto & Sasuke are equal & Madara said that Perfect Susano'o is comparable to the Power of a Bijuu. So there's no doubt in my mind that he has it.

I'm pretty confident about this list. It took me about 20 mins to make & think about.

& Yes I know Taka isn't actually True Akatsuki Members, I put them on the list because the Asoiciate with them.


Thoughts?


You should not be confident because that is a failed list.
You should not assume because with your logic .....
 

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Not really his CQC and durability is highly overlooked .. His spores are not effecting hidan because running out of chakra does nothing... And his curse needs 0 chakra.. Zetsu has nothing to really touch Hidan
Whether Zetsu beats Hidan or not is irrelevant, it's their overall power which is the most important thing. Gai may be able to beat Kisame, but I doubt you could find a lot of people that would consider him to be more powerful over all, hence why most people would place him higher on a top list.

And you're quite wrong about the effectiveness of the Hōshi no Jutsu. His jutsu may not require stamina, but if someone is out of Chakra, they are not going to be able to keep on fighting, as they'd be completely exhausted. The Hōshi no Jutsu would absorb his chakra until Hidan won't be able to stand up straight anymore, at which time Zetsu will have undoubtedly won the match. Naruto, who's unrivaled when it comes to stamina, almost lost consciousness when he had his Chakra absorbed by the Gakidō, [ ] the case would be the same with Hidan.

You also state that Zetsu has no way to get to Hidan, and yet, you do not consider how Hidan will be able to get to Zetsu. Having been Obito's closest ally in the series, he undoubtedly had some info on Hidan and his abilities, and when he sees that all Hidan has is his scythe, all he needs to do is get underground and use the Kisei Bunshin, sending his clones after Hidan, who would undoubtedly get tired after a while, while Zetsu himself can stay safely underground. Note that Hidan would have no way of getting to Zetsu or surprising him, due to Zetsu's sensory abilities, and his ability to share information with his other clones.

So, to summarize, Zetsu's powers are above Hidan's, and by quite a margin. In fact, Hidan's chances of defeating Zetsu are quite slim, despite what most of NB seems to think. In the end, Zetsu>Hidan.
 

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This is the list take it from an expert :|

1.Obito
2.Nagato
3.Itachi
4.Kisame/Kakuzu
5.Kakuzu/Kisame
6.Deidara
7.Sasori
8.Konan
9.Hidan
10.Zetsu
Taka is not akatsuki

Anyone wants to argue is dead wrong

This list is dead wrong. Period.
 

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Uchiha Eyes is the only weakest point for Orochimaru
But he is PowerFul to Non Uchiha Ninjas , he is Very hard to kill and has Powerful summons not to mention he is Immortal

Itachi is a Special Case ..

I'll agree with you on that, though if you have a quality sealing jutsu you have a very good chance against him. but he is not the second strongest of all those characters.
 

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Whether Zetsu beats Hidan or not is irrelevant, it's their overall power which is the most important thing. Gai may be able to beat Kisame, but I doubt you could find a lot of people that would consider him to be more powerful over all, hence why most people would place him higher on a top list.

And you're quite wrong about the effectiveness of the Hōshi no Jutsu. His jutsu may not require stamina, but if someone is out of Chakra, they are not going to be able to keep on fighting, as they'd be completely exhausted. The Hōshi no Jutsu would absorb his chakra until Hidan won't be able to stand up straight anymore, at which time Zetsu will have undoubtedly won the match. Naruto, who's unrivaled when it comes to stamina, almost lost consciousness when he had his Chakra absorbed by the Gakidō, [ ] the case would be the same with Hidan.

You also state that Zetsu has no way to get to Hidan, and yet, you do not consider how Hidan will be able to get to Zetsu. Having been Obito's closest ally in the series, he undoubtedly had some info on Hidan and his abilities, and when he sees that all Hidan has is his scythe, all he needs to do is get underground and use the Kisei Bunshin, sending his clones after Hidan, who would undoubtedly get tired after a while, while Zetsu himself can stay safely underground. Note that Hidan would have no way of getting to Zetsu or surprising him, due to Zetsu's sensory abilities, and his ability to share information with his other clones.

So, to summarize, Zetsu's powers are above Hidan's, and by quite a margin. In fact, Hidan's chances of defeating Zetsu are quite slim, despite what most of NB seems to think. In the end, Zetsu>Hidan.

Well Hidan is quite complicated if you take the time.. Yes without chakra you can not move .. but with a punctured heart you can not breath now can you? Nor can you move or can your blood keep flowing .. but yes his does.. I doubt chakra exhaustion is the end of him .. And actually Zetsu's base stats . like Strength,speed,agility and stamina are all lower then hidans . the only thing he may have on him is wood and sensing and perhaps intelligence..No Hidan basically has unlimited stamina, .. and the clones are not taking him down .. so eventually Zetsu would have to come up again where he gets pawned by Hidan ..

IMO hidan takes ALOT more people then Zetsu can .. Not counting his 1000000000 clones


This list is dead wrong. Period.
HAHAHA Says the one who has Konan over almost everyone and itachi over Nagato your clearly an ignorant fan who likes to think they know the Akatsuki but you really do not :|
 

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Orchimaru always had edo tensei. he still came to terms that he was incapable of doing anything against. not to mention that with edos he still got his arms taken by old ass Hiruzen.

Orochimaru has Edo Tensei Hashirama, Minato, Tobirama, & Hiruzen.

He has raiton so right from the get go you should know he beats Deidara...Sasori he beats due to Domu tanking iron sand and his massive AoE jutsu reducing his 100 puppets to dust, he beats konan.. because Wind Blows away paper lol .. And hidan and zetsu should not even be debatable

Go into Further Detail, in staid of saying "he" just say who "he" really is. My mind is jumping left & right. Idk who your talking about anymore...

I'll be glad to debate with you all day. I know I'll win.
 

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I'll agree with you on that, though if you have a quality sealing jutsu you have a very good chance against him. but he is not the second strongest of all those characters.

He is the Second if you Count EDo Tensei or Maybe the First ( if there is no Juubito in the list )
But Without Edo tensei Sure he is not the Second
Nagato and itachi are stronger

But i think he is Stronger Than Rinnegan Obito ( no Juubito ) Because Kakashi owned Rinnegan Obito
 
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