It's interesting to come back once in a while and read threads like this, obviously everyone wants to be remembered it's in human nature it's the closest thing to immortality. Imo I don't think you have to be over powered etc to be remembered I remember people for all sorts of reasons from when I was first on NB (many moons ago under different accounts) I mean you could mention my old account names to new people and they wouldn't have a clue who I am but there was a group of RPers who will always remember each other because of how active the RP was and how close we were. We didn't argue really, we may have debated but we wanted the RP to be realistic and flow without constant stopping. I mean I can't speak much because I don't RP anymore but all it takes is for a small group of you to come together and battle that way again and it will make it alot more fun and enjoyable. And the respect will be gained and people will be remembered (if thats what they really want).
NB RolePlay...Seriously what the hell?
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Gotcha ^^
On another note, what is the situation with members who don't actually teach any more, yet wear the orange coloured name? I could name three of them; they're not breaking any rules or denying training since they're not actually active, but shouldn't they step down as senseis, and put up new enthusiastic senseis who actually want to help out now since inactive senseis are almost wasting the time of other members who need training.
I presume you guys are doing a fine job reading the sensei applications of course, but I think, it's almost deceiving having members pop up with the title of sensei who don't actually RP or teach anymore.
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Well I was gonna write a wallie agreeing with Nagato but ill put it in a short more primitive way way I honestly think if the rp keeps going this way it will soon be no more I along with maybe 2 people iv seen in the last 4 month don't really argue that much unless they have a doubt but then will continue either way I hate that the rp is so restricted and some that deserve stuff such as Sage mode or 8 Gates or Sealing Jutsus will never learn it and I honestly don't think its fair to restrict everyone on what they can and cannot learn and putting such things into a tournament as a prize is Bullshit as some of us won't win or even make it pass some of the older members now don't think I'm power hungry and want to rule the rp but I have seen a good amount of new comers in the rp that are more fit to use such things then some of the people that have it..and my examples will follow... I see all these people enter tounaments and make it to the second round where they will face someone with OP techniques and they have hardly anything to counter or even keep up with and then they lose and the op person wins and get more op.... this is a failed system if I say so you shouldn't place Training as a Tournament prize for a few reasons mainly for this reason you can't base someone Over powering everyone they fight as them being responsible enough to use it... when you do stuff like this ot pretty much kills the rp for the new ones cause then they never have a chance and you can't reply with they had the skill to win it cause ill reply with that's Bullshit... now I'm not saying they don't have skill I'm just saying that they fought their way with a higher learning of Technqiues and now I realise some parts don't make sense but most of it if you think about it does
Nagato idk if this was one of the points you where tring to make but that's what I got for a certain part of your Gaint wall of texst lol
Nagato idk if this was one of the points you where tring to make but that's what I got for a certain part of your Gaint wall of texst lol
The main problem i've seen when i've come back now and then is that people post jutsu without knowing or understanding the jutsu itself, people are in such a rush to become OP that they don't understand the basics, I found this when I used to be a sensei back in the day and I'm sure the older members/sensei would agree with me even the new sensei would probably agree. Being able to make good combinations with the basic jutsu would gain more respect in my opinion then spamming OP jutsu and just saying ''Yeh your dead in one shot'' I could point you in the direction of some of the best RPers on this forum even though I've been away and I guarantee if you stripped them of their customs that they would still be a good RPer because they practiced and understood the basics,thought outside of the box.
1) Not everyone is the same. I'm not polite nor do I "swallow" things with the same tolerance as others when my button is clicked. However as far as I know, this is not the issue of the thread. My conduct in specific that is. If you wish to adress it, talk to Caliburn, Lawliet or Tsuchi or Nexus or Zise and get it over with instead of bringing it up from here until the end of times.
While Nagato deems that reason to be the one in the origin of all the arguments and etc in the RP and gives a hint that making everytihing easier would make it go away, I point out that I think the origin of the problem is not that but rather what I pointed out. I don't adress an issue that i see as not the origin of the problem.
2) =_= I don't need to visit Konoha Town daily to find such behavior. But like you said, I can't (nor we can't) moderate every single post made. I didn't say we could, should or did. Its not even the question. I said that its a clear proof of how the community behaves in the RP currently when you actually takte the time to read through those threads.
3) Not all mods are dedicated or assigned to the CJ thread. And 100 submissions isn't 100 techniques...its an average of 250 techniques. We can't all tackle the CJ thread as you suggest. Not practical nor is it the direction nexus organized us with. Its easy being on the outside pointing the problems that you think are inside. And who said i'm being overworked? O_O I was, Im not now. You totally missed the point on my post.
Oranization is not the issue. Its the issue of people waiting for the new mods to know all the ropes of the job they got a few weeks ago. Which takes a bit of time.
4) In this part you're showcasing only your lack of knowledge on how the staff works (which is normal btw) but I'm not going to dwell on that. It pertains to internal organization that you don't need to know nor think about.
The training methods are part of the senseis yes. Yet, I'm a sensei. I started the mthod before i was a mod and i'm working onn it now slowly.
I didn't complain about my work load. I didn't complain about training others. I simply posted a list of what I do as most of the previous posts were pointing out that 10 mods don't do squat and that we are wrose than we were with less mods. I was simply trying to set a benchmark so people actually understand what is being done or what we do. As for the whole visible and invisble work, again, its pointless for you to speak of what you don't understand. I'm not saying this in a depreciative manner. Trust me. I'm saying this in a simple way: that can't be done like that. Simple. Perhaps I shouldn't have simply opened a bit of my organization because its clear the message I wanted wasn't trasnmitted but I simply wanted to reason that we aren't just sitting there being blue named members. Thats the core of my reasoning. Your suggestions wouldn't work or are viable though. But you can't know that without seeing what goes on behind the courtain which is why its only natural that your suggestions showcase that.
5) I mean "losers in battle", basically ruling someone as a loser in a battle. Not losers in general. Lol iPad is not the best thing to write walls of text. ^^
6) Have you considered speaking to Caliburn? Bios rarely wait that much time to be approved so it might be a temprary issue.
7) We all can overcome problems...that have clear solutions. Or even solutions for that matter. Sometimes, the problems don't have solutions. And most of the problems listed in this thread will never have one. Or are you going to say you can make members behave? become nice people? abide by the rules? will you make them stop arguing? Because the core problem currently and raise by this thread is exactly that one: arguments and not being able to have fun.
Oh well, I will never get the chance to know RP because Caliburn never take his time to approve bios, which means I can't find a sensei/senpai and train my water element. Simple what S said, it looks fun and that is why I wanna try it out.
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I would not be opposed to this idea. It would surely make things easier for myself.A lot of good points in there Nagato.
I just feel like sometimes people take things way too seriously. There is no reason a disagreement over a battle should ever lead to a member removing themselves from the RP. If people take things too seriously and don't respect each other, then disagreements over moves quickly devolve into arguments and personal attack, which is unacceptable.
I'm not in favor of a complete reset, as I think too much work has gone into the current system to throw it all away, but I will offer a suggestion to deal with arguments.
I think this issue can easily be solved by creating a sub-section for battle judgments. Its something I've seen in other RP forums and I think works well. When a disagreement arises (that can't be solved quickly through VMs/PMs/MSN and VMs/PMs/MSN only) the person who disagrees creates a thread in the battle judgement sub-section listing the reasons why they think the move is invalid. The opponent of said person then makes a post stating their case. These posts are not directed at each other, but just defending your point of view for the Mod who checks the battle to read. A Mod will come in and check the battle, and will render judgement. Once the judgement is decided, that's it. Its final. No questioning, no more further arguing. Accept the judgement.
This would keep the battle thread clean, and prevent things from spiraling out of control. If someone breaks this format by trying to continue arguing in either the battle thread or the judgement thread, then they get punished. Say its an argument in some Ninja World conflict, then they are removed from said conflict.
With that suggestion said, its impossible to accomplish a RP without the members of the community showing respect and having humility. You have to be able to accept defeat, even if you disagree with it. If you are incapable of doing that, then the chances of you having a good time are very slim; and I suggest you try to find some other form of entertainment.
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I checked the approve list for bios, and he approved one for three days ago. I created my Tobirama bio 16 and I haven't got any answers yet. I even asked if he should check it, but no answer.
No surprise to be honest, after all the MODs are hunting me
Who are you?
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Saying Cali doesn't check bios when your bio isn't even waiting for one full week is the same as saying the earth is a cube. And as for the mods being out to hunt you... Please, I don't even remember you or know who you are.
@ Zlad you need to just leave rp if you insulting Caliburn he has approved hundreds of bios and I have sat there and watched the bio forum over and over while he approved them he cleared 7 pages in 3 pages that over 1oo bios so stop complaining the mods aren't your bitches and they don't take bio approval requests just cause Caliburn doesn't approve bios everyday doesn't mean he hasn't approved more then any Mod on the site so STFU
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The mods are hunting you Zlad....Are you serious, look at my reputation compared to yours, i mean who are you?
I don't get hunted by mods and i'm held in pretty low regard these days, and i have argued directly with mods time and again, i believe the point i'm getting at is that generally when mature people are involved these things are a forgive and forget basis and frankly i don't even know who you are.
I don't get hunted by mods and i'm held in pretty low regard these days, and i have argued directly with mods time and again, i believe the point i'm getting at is that generally when mature people are involved these things are a forgive and forget basis and frankly i don't even know who you are.
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Great read, but not much will come out of this. The best thing that can be done is if we collectively change how we RP. Countless people here agree with the thread but how many can say i haven't raised or escalated a unnecessary argument ? That i haven't submitted a OP CJ in the slight chance it would get through ?
I'm glad that some of the Senseis and mods can see these looming problems, but the RP is only a product of what we make of it, even now, we wouldn't have to wipe the RP to fix it.
The 10 moderator problem isn't really a concern, the workload from the outside looks massive, from the inside it should be far worse. As for the person who mentioned the problem of having all elements available, at first i was uneasy seeing as i wanted a Kakuzu bio and this factor made it lose some of its lustre. But then realized, that i have almost all the cannon techs shown available to me, from that alone i could create my own style.
and remember we're complaining about overpowered people in the system, yet we're forgetting it has a limit on how broken their jutsu/element could possibly be. I honestly believe with the 5 basic elements available to you, with an actual mastery of 2/3 if you became skillful enough, you would surpass even them most broken of people (except maybe the guy with Void Release, that CE borders on the realms of insane).
All these other Custom Jutsu/Elements seem to fit in the constraints of acceptable logic, in one way or another, they have a looming weakness to something.
I'm glad that some of the Senseis and mods can see these looming problems, but the RP is only a product of what we make of it, even now, we wouldn't have to wipe the RP to fix it.
The 10 moderator problem isn't really a concern, the workload from the outside looks massive, from the inside it should be far worse. As for the person who mentioned the problem of having all elements available, at first i was uneasy seeing as i wanted a Kakuzu bio and this factor made it lose some of its lustre. But then realized, that i have almost all the cannon techs shown available to me, from that alone i could create my own style.
and remember we're complaining about overpowered people in the system, yet we're forgetting it has a limit on how broken their jutsu/element could possibly be. I honestly believe with the 5 basic elements available to you, with an actual mastery of 2/3 if you became skillful enough, you would surpass even them most broken of people (except maybe the guy with Void Release, that CE borders on the realms of insane).
All these other Custom Jutsu/Elements seem to fit in the constraints of acceptable logic, in one way or another, they have a looming weakness to something.
Why does it matter who I am? New to RP, nice to meet you too.Who are you?
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Saying Cali doesn't check bios when your bio isn't even waiting for one full week is the same as saying the earth is a cube. And as for the mods being out to hunt you... Please, I don't even remember you or know who you are.
I'm just saying how I feel it, and yes it has been a week because I created it in a Tuesday. I am not saying he is doing a bad job or anything, but it is kinda strange when other bios that was created for 2-3 days ago gets approved. I sent him message last week but didnt get answer, however if he is bussy then there is no problem.
Thanks, you made my day after that post.
Please, explain me more how I am insulting Caliburn will ya? I know you want to sound good for the MODs, but there is no need to tell me to stfû. This is exactly the problem with NB.. like ugh.
It was suppos to be a joke, but it doesn't look like people even can't get a joke now? Reputation is not important over the internet, so why are you even bringing it here? I'm new to RP, like I said up.
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I hate to be negative about this, but every comment made is meaningless. You speak of change, but none are making the effort. Its kind of pointless. Even if we do make progress, how long is it going to last?
Sensei/Sempai are negalecting their duties of training, Students quiting, Mods are becoming stress with constent bickring. Many know what the problem is. Other my think they know.
When you look at the damage it is a lot of mess to clean up. Now one is willing to clean up the mess. Therefore, its too much damage that your willing to start over. Everyone knows its is better to work and improve. Starting over takes time.
That is all I have to say. I apologiz Nagato and all for my negativety, but I being honest.
Sensei/Sempai are negalecting their duties of training, Students quiting, Mods are becoming stress with constent bickring. Many know what the problem is. Other my think they know.
When you look at the damage it is a lot of mess to clean up. Now one is willing to clean up the mess. Therefore, its too much damage that your willing to start over. Everyone knows its is better to work and improve. Starting over takes time.
That is all I have to say. I apologiz Nagato and all for my negativety, but I being honest.
Both of you stop. Don't start arguing with eachother over something that isn't even the point of the thread. Zlad I asked who you are because you said "Mods are hunting me". I'm a mod. I don't even know you. So how can you say that? Its obviously something you think that isn't translated into reality. So please don't use that argument again.
Please stay on topic people.
Please stay on topic people.
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