Naruto's generation is really strong.

[Its sasukebase]

You opinion is based on 4 shinobi of that generation, hashirama/madara/tobirama/izuna and that is not how you define a generation. You need to learn what it means before you debate.


That's why this is still proven right everyday.....#OldMember>NewMember

uchiha and senju strongest clan ever stated in manga they solo every other clan. what shinobi does this current generation have naruto and sasuke the rest are fodder i know what generation is and this generation gets soloed

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hahsirama they could solo his whole generation if the uchiha and senju combine forces other clan need help just to fight themuchiha and senju solo their whole generation. uchiha+senju+their generation solo current generation. need i remind you current generation was dieing to zestu clones

 

[Da Best Ever]

things change character were not introduced at that point and that is a statement that lee made if kakashi said that it would be a different story. that would mean neji > kid kakashi. lee also said that knowin he could use gates and beat neji with it lee was the strongest with his gate.

Kakashi still said it so you failed.

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and even kankuro put neji on par with gaara as the only 2 monsters

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[Da Best Ever]

uchiha and senju strongest clan ever stated in manga they solo every other clan. what shinobi does this current generation have naruto and sasuke the rest are fodder i know what generation is and this generation gets soloed

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hahsirama they could solo his whole generation if the uchiha and senju combine forces other clan need help just to fight themuchiha and senju solo their whole generation. uchiha+senju+their generation solo current generation. need i remind you current generation was dieing to zestu clones

Yes the best clans, which means the senju/uchiha as whole, the later generations has shinobi that transcend their clans, most notably sasuke, naruto, neji, itach, obito, nagato, and so on. Furthermore that scan was only referenced to " clans " not shinobi as a whole so yes they were the best clans but they aren't part of the best generation.


You posted that scan and your way of thinking suggest you think all senju/uchiha were on madara/hashirama/tobirama/izuna's level which they were not so you again fail.


Also there were 100,000 zetsu clones and 80,000 shinobi plus the zetsu clones could absorb chakra and transform into anyone which they used that ability to catch shinobi by surprise not to mention they had an edo army aiding them.


Your post is totally invalid, it has no relevance in this debate since this is about generations and not clans, there was more than uchiha/senju at that time and uchiha/senju being better than everyone else only proves my point of the level of competition and by your logic you think a person your age from 10,000 b.c. can beat you in a fist fight which is ridiculously insane.

 

[SuperChief]

Obito
Kakashi
Gai
Asuma
Kabuto
Nagato
Sasori
Kisame
Killer Bee
Hidan/Itachi/Deidara (??? Maybe too young)

That previous generation is more powerful than this one definatly
With the exception of maybe Hashi/Madara/Tobirama generation too

Naruto beats Obito.
Sasuke stomps Kakashi.
Lee will surpass Gai.
Chōji surpassed Asuma combat wise, and Shikamaru already did in regards to intelligence.
Kabuto isn't part of Kakashi generation, he's Itachi's generation.
Nagato is a generation older than Minato, let alone Kakashi.
Sakura would easily solo Sasori now.
Suigetsu will likely surpass Kisame.
I'm not sure if Killer B is in Kakashi's generation.
Itachi is in the same generation as Kabuto (surpassed by Sasuke). Deidara is closer to Naruto's generation at 19 years old (also Sasuke, and Gaara would have taken him out 1v1). Hidan is Itachi's generation (taken out by Shikamaru).

 

[Its sasukebase]

Obito and Madara are from completely different generations, so I see no reason why they should be teamed up. Naruto or Sasuke >>> Madara or Hashirama from the past. Its as simple as that. It took Madara more than 100 years to become Juubi Jinchuuriki, Naruto and Sasuke are only 16.

when did i even mention obito

does not matter long it took to get the power he has it now that all that matter. sasuke tells madara he is just a relic of the past (from past generation).
sage naruto+ rennegan sasuke>ems madara+sm hahsirama
juubi Jinchuuriki madara+sm hahsirama > sage naruto and rennegan sasuke

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Just because itachi was better as ms doesn't mean sasuke wasn't a prodigy, that's shit logic. You don't define prodigies by comparing them to each other, they were called prodigies because they stood out above their own clan's exceptional skills. Gosh, people just say shit without thinking, but that's the way of the world so I can't complain about y'all.

We call people prodigy by comparing them to others of the same age. Sasuke was far inferior to Itachi until he got his MS. Still Sasuke's MS techniques are pathetic compared to Itachi (except for Enton). Itachi knew yasaka magatama, time controlling tsukoyomi, yata mirror, totsuka blade. sasuke is inferior to itachi when using MS

Most of sasuke's feats from earlier shippuden come from using the free curse mark from Oro. then he got EMS for free. now he got another power up like naruto, which is also free

Sasuke is better than Itachi at using raiton only. MS Itachi was much faster on foot with better taijutsu, and hand seal. Itachi also has various types of genjutsu like crow, finger, paralysis etc

Sasuke can't be called a prodigy with all the free powers he got over time

 

[Da Best Ever]

Naruto beats Obito.
Sasuke stomps Kakashi.
Lee will surpass Gai.
Chōji surpassed Asuma combat wise, and Shikamaru already did in regards to intelligence.
Kabuto isn't part of Kakashi generation, he's Itachi's generation.
Nagato is a generation older than Minato, let alone Kakashi.
Sakura would easily solo Sasori now.
Suigetsu will likely surpass Kisame.
I'm not sure if Killer B is in Kakashi's generation.
Itachi is in the same generation as Kabuto (surpassed by Sasuke). Deidara is closer to Naruto's generation at 19 years old (also Sasuke, and Gaara would have taken him out 1v1). Hidan is Itachi's generation (taken out by Shikamaru).

Sakura wouldn't beat sasori now, you have to remember her speed is still slow, and she only dodged the poison needles and iron sand because chiyo was controlling her body sakura doesn't have the speed on her own and 100 puppets aligned with poison would defeat her, her monstrous strength can't get past them all and not to mention chiyo knew sasori's techs and countered them for the most part so saskura would lose by herself now or then. but thats the only one I have a problem with the rest are spot on.

 

[Da Best Ever]

We call people prodigy by comparing them to others of the same age. Sasuke was far inferior to Itachi until he got his MS. Still Sasuke's MS techniques are pathetic compared to Itachi (except for Enton). Itachi knew yasaka magatama, time controlling tsukoyomi, yata mirror, totsuka blade. sasuke is inferior to itachi when using MS

Most of sasuke's feats from earlier shippuden come from using the free curse mark from Oro. then he got EMS for free. now he got another power up like naruto, which is also free

Sasuke is better than Itachi at using raiton only. MS Itachi was much faster on foot with better taijutsu, and hand seal. Itachi also has various types of genjutsu like crow, finger, paralysis etc

Sasuke can't be called a prodigy with all the free powers he got over time

It was said in the manga that itachi was called a prodigy because he stood out and excelled even among uchiha standards not because he was compared to one individual so get your facts right.


Also quit *****ing about this borrowed power bull shit, 90% of every shinobi in nv has someone else power and 95% of the top 10 has someone else power so stop *****ing.

 

[Naruto99Uzumaki]

still madaras and hashiramas generation >>>>>>>>narutos

 

[Da Best Ever]

when did i even mention obito

does not matter long it took to get the power he has it now that all that matter. sasuke tells madara he is just a relic of the past (from past generation).
sage naruto+ rennegan sasuke>ems madara+sm hahsirama
juubi Jinchuuriki madara+sm hahsirama > sage naruto and rennegan sasuke

The bold hasn't even been proven yet so that's how I know you are full of shit.

 

[Da Best Ever]

still madaras and hashiramas generation >>>>>>>>narutos

Name 10 shinobi from hashirama's generation??? don't worry I'll wait

 

[Turson]

when did i even mention obito

does not matter long it took to get the power he has it now that all that matter.

Compare 13 years old Naruto to current Naruto. Do you see the difference? Of course that age is a big factor. Naruto and Sasuke age 16 are waaay more powerful than Hashirama and Madara were in their 30s. That should tell you enough which generation is stronger.

juubi Jinchuuriki madara+sm hahsirama > sage naruto and rennegan sasuke

Once again, nothing more than a speclulation. Granted, Hashirama was a demi god level, however, he himslf said that Obito is stronger than he is. Obito is inferior to Madara, who took quite a beating from Naruto, who didnt even use his chakra cloak.

 

[Da Best Ever]

Compare 13 years old Naruto to current Naruto. Do you see the difference? Of course that age is a big factor. Naruto and Sasuke age 16 are waaay more powerful than Hashirama and Madara were in their 30s. That should tell you enough which generation is stronger.

Once again, nothing more than a speclulation. Granted, Hashirama was a demi god level, however, he himslf said that Obito is stronger than he is. Obito is inferior to Madara, who took quite a beating from Naruto, who didnt even use his chakra cloak.

Madara was near death when naruto hit him so that really doesn't count but the rest I agree.

 

[Its sasukebase]

Yes the best clans, which means the senju/uchiha as whole, the later generations has shinobi that transcend their clans, most notably sasuke, naruto, neji, itach, obito, nagato, and so on. Furthermore that scan was only referenced to " clans " not shinobi as a whole so yes they were the best clans but they aren't part of the best generation.


You posted that scan and your way of thinking suggest you think all senju/uchiha were on madara/hashirama/tobirama/izuna's level which they were not so you again fail.


Also there were 100,000 zetsu clones and 80,000 shinobi plus the zetsu clones could absorb chakra and transform into anyone which they used that ability to catch shinobi by surprise not to mention they had an edo army aiding them.


Your post is totally invalid, it has no relevance in this debate since this is about generations and not clans, there was more than uchiha/senju at that time and uchiha/senju being better than everyone else only proves my point of the level of competition and by your logic you think a person your age from 10,000 b.c. can beat you in a fist fight which is ridiculously insane.

uchiha and senju has always been the strongest clan without madara and hashirama and hahsirama said the greatest shinobi meaning that their both clans has the strongest shinobi

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black zestu hold his own against mizuakage and multiply jounin. zestu clones are fodder lvl that just show you how weak SA was and SA could not even deal with half baked edo from past generation

uchiha and senju was strongest they are direct descendants of the sage they are suppose to be the strongest of course no one can compete with them


once again this is reality not a manga by your logic ino>sage since he is from the past and past is always weaker than the future you know how are army now will destroy rome in the past. real life logic cant be used in naruto manga

 

[Turson]

Madara was near death when naruto hit him so that really doesn't count but the rest I agree.

Madara himself made that question: was he so much weakened, or Naruto became so much stronger. The latter explanation turned out to be valid.

 

[Da Best Ever]

uchiha and senju has always been the strongest clan without madara and hashirama and hahsirama said the greatest shinobi meaning that their both clans has the strongest shinobi

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black zestu hold his own against mizuakage and multiply jounin. zestu clones are fodder lvl that just show you how weak SA was and SA could not even deal with half baked edo from past generation

uchiha and senju was strongest they are direct descendants of the sage they are suppose to be the strongest of course no one can compete with them


once again this is reality not a manga by your logic ino>sage since he is from the past and past is always weaker than the future you know how are army now will destroy rome in the past. real life logic cant be used in naruto manga

Nope you fail again because, like I said the zetsu clones are unique can can take someone's abilities and look like them so they were only beating some shinobi because of them blending in and stabbing them in the back basically and not every shinobi is powerful which is what I'm trying to get you to understand but you seem to think all senju/uchiha if hashirama's generation are hashirama and madara's level and they are not. Also Rome would get destroyed neg diff by any army of this generation that is why the future is always > than the past. Also i don't think ino > sage thats just ridiculous my point is that you think every shinobi of that generation is high level and that there are no fodder. Real World logic does apply, in this situation and in many others in this manga, and yes the past as a whole is weaker than the future as a whole but you don't understand what an entire generation means which is why you keep talking about 1 or 2 shinobi being better than the current generation rather than the whole past vs the whole future.

 

[SuperChief]

Sakura wouldn't beat sasori now, you have to remember her speed is still slow, and she only dodged the poison needles and iron sand because chiyo was controlling her body sakura doesn't have the speed on her own and 100 puppets aligned with poison would defeat her, her monstrous strength can't get past them all and not to mention chiyo knew sasori's techs and countered them for the most part so saskura would lose by herself now or then. but thats the only one I have a problem with the rest are spot on.

Sakura isn't slow at all (she's just not a speedster) and she helped Chiyo at least as much as Chiyo helped her. In fact, I'd bet she did more to help Chiyo than vice-versa. Also, have you not been paying attention to the manga? She took out dozens of Jūbi fodder with one punch. If she used the antidote only on herself and went at Sasori on her own, she'd steamroll him. Plus, she can summon Katsuyu now.

 

[Its sasukebase]

Compare 13 years old Naruto to current Naruto. Do you see the difference? Of course that age is a big factor. Naruto and Sasuke age 16 are waaay more powerful than Hashirama and Madara were in their 30s. That should tell you enough which generation is stronger.

Once again, nothing more than a speclulation. Granted, Hashirama was a demi god level, however, he himslf said that Obito is stronger than he is. Obito is inferior to Madara, who took quite a beating from Naruto, who didnt even use his chakra cloak.

its not speculation. madara was injured already naruto didn't do anything pluses someone helped him dodge limbo. doesn't mater how old you are as kakashi stated in manga there are people younger than him that are stronger than him. age mean nothing it just an exusse and im not talking about about madara in his 30s im talking about juubi madara as i stated alread
sage naruto+rennegan sasuke>ems madara+sm hahsirama
juubi madara+sm hashirama>sage naruto+rennegan
remember we still don't know hahsirama full strength because he was revived as edo after madara was revived his power jumped like crazy

 

[Da Best Ever]

Madara himself made that question: was he so much weakened, or Naruto became so much stronger. The latter explanation turned out to be valid.

He said he was lucky to be alive after facing gai so yes he was near death, and yes naruto was better but he said that only because the level naruto was at prior and based that on his current weakened self at the time in which his weakened self should have still been stronger than the naruto he knew. So I am right my friend, you over analyzed the whole thing and missed minor details.

 

[Its sasukebase]

as much as i like soloing im done.let agree to disagree atleats we can do that