Naruto's generation is really strong.

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That time period was based on samurai most of the senju/uchiha fought like samurai then, and like I said you can only name less than 10 senju and uchiha together that are powerful and worthy of mention if you can't name more than 10 then might point is proven.


First off edo madara > ems madara so invalid and also gaara is better than 90% of shinobi from madara's and hashirama generation so you point continues to be invalid.


Also a generation is the sum total of people born in that era, not 1 person, and you are basing it off as best of the best when thats not how you view and entire generation. AS a whole generation the current is better, they have more powerful or above average shinobi now than it was then, from hashirama's generation, there was only madara and tobirama and izuna that were powerful enough to be known I can name more than 4 shinobi from the current generation that are powerful enough to be known and that would crush the average senju or uchiha of that generation. Even in real life the new generation > previous generation, there was a time when people thought the earth was the center of the universe, or that the earth was flat or that man could never get into the cosmos but look at us now, what the previous generations couldn't do the new can.

no he is not edo madara was not revived at full strength. edo hashirama beat edo madara and trapped him in his justu madara got revived and fodderize every one with no eyes. tobirama said that he revived them at almost full strength. most the the uchiha and senju are not mention. but the only stronger people from this generation is naruto and sasuke. people like nejia and lee are all fodder when compared to madara and hashirama.naruto is manga not reality. cant use human logic they can burn some one by looking at them. plz name others that are not fodder lvl besides sasuke and naruto
 

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Only tobirama and hashirama were powerful enough to be known senju and only madara and izuna were powerful enough to be known as uchiha. True their clans were the best back then but you comparing the Roman army to the U.S. military.


Itachi and kakashi came up through the ranks that fast because there was no one to compete with them everyone they came up with were fodder except for guy, kid kakashi would have been destroyed by kid neji or kid gaara, kid itachi would have gotten stomped be kid gaara or kid neji so save that bull shit. I honestly think you are carrying on this argument just to make people upset.

lol kid kakshi was jounin lvl while kid neji and lost to naruto itachi solo his clan at 13 he would solo gaara and neji. cant believe you said this going to have to put this in my sig now
 

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The current generation is super saturated with talent. Saying Hashirama's or Kakashi's generation was better is just ridiculousness. There is less than 10 descent or better shinobi from hashirama's era that we know of and only powerful shinobi are known in the " Naruto " series when going back in history. The same goes for kakashi's generation. Match any kid version of the previous generation with the current generation kid selves.



Kid Hashirama gets stomped by kid neji, kid lee, kid sasuke, kid naruto, kid ,kiba, kid shino, kid gaara, kid kankuro

Kid Tobirama get stomped by the same

Kid itachi gets stomped by neji and gaara


kid kakashi gets stomped by lee, sasuke, shino, neji, gaara
 

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lol kid kakshi was jounin lvl while kid neji and lost to naruto itachi solo his clan at 13 he would solo gaara and neji. cant believe you said this going to have to put this in my sig now

That's my point. Kakashi was progressed through the ranks so fast because the level of competition back then was so damn low. Check this out, if the rank acually makes a difference then this will discount all your kid ranking up shit. When neji was only showing a portion of his skills vs hinata, lee said " I have on my team the most powerful genin to ever come out of the leaf " no one contested that not even gai who was both of their sensei or kakashi who was right there as well, and then kakashi even later stated when seeing neji's abilities that " I didn't know such a guy existed ". And kakasho obviously knew his onw abilities as a kid yet he stil said " I didn't know such a guy existed ".
 

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Where is naruto?

I thought that was obvious........Since I called it "naruto's generation" Also I didnt know what to call him, genius didnt sound right?
 

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I thought that was obvious........Since I called it "naruto's generation"

Oh, well it didn't seem like it. I just would rather you have him on the list.
 

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lol kid kakshi was jounin lvl while kid neji and lost to naruto itachi solo his clan at 13 he would solo gaara and neji. cant believe you said this going to have to put this in my sig now

Also get your facts straight Itachi didn't solo the uchiha, solo means to do alone, he wasn't alone obito help defeat the uchiha. Also place it on your sig nobody is going to view it as being ridiculous but you. You are the only one arguing against me so you are by default The Boy Who Cried Wolf
 

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Thats only your speculation. There is no way to tell how powerful were 16 year old members of Senjuu and Uchiha from that time.

Lol? Current Naruto or Sasuke would easily beat Hashirama or Madara from the past.

Actually, age means a lot. If a genious is powerful at the age of 13, he will be much more powerful at the age of 25, unless he stops training.


if you counting sage naruto and sasuke yes but then you would also have to count juubi madara and jubbi madara+hahsirama>sage naruto and sasuke

when it come to fodder they will never leave fodder lvl part 1 konoha 11=fodder current konoha=11 fodder except naruto
 

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Also get your facts straight Itachi didn't solo the uchiha, solo means to do alone, he wasn't alone obito help defeat the uchiha. Also place it on your sig nobody is going to view it as being ridiculous but you. You are the only one arguing against me so you are by default The Boy Who Cried Wolf

kid kakashi would have been destroyed by kid neji or kid gaara, kid itachi would have gotten stomped be kid gaara or kid neji
no this is ridiculous
 

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What? That is not true at all.

Kid itachi had no competition as a kid, neji had to face lee who was better as a kid than anyone itachi came up through the ranks with as well as naruto and gaara and sasuke. Itachi was the only shinobi worthy of mention out of his generation why? because those he faced were fodder.
 

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There are so many talented ninjas in his generation.

Neji - Hyuga Prodigy

Sasuke - Uchiha Prodigy

Lee - Taijustu Prodigy

Sakura - Medical Prodigy

Shikamaru - Genius

Gaara - Kazekage at 17

Naruto - Prophecy kid

Sasuke is no prodigy, Itachi was a prodigy. Itachi MS >> Sasuke MS. Sasuke got almost every power up for free
 

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if you counting sage naruto and sasuke yes but then you would also have to count juubi madara and jubbi madara+hahsirama>sage naruto and sasuke

when it come to fodder they will never leave fodder lvl part 1 konoha 11=fodder current konoha=11 fodder except naruto

You opinion is based on 4 shinobi of that generation, hashirama/madara/tobirama/izuna and that is not how you define a generation. You need to learn what it means before you debate.


That's why this is still proven right everyday.....#OldMember>NewMember
 

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Sasuke is no prodigy, Itachi was a prodigy. Itachi MS >> Sasuke MS. Sasuke got almost every power up for free

Just because itachi was better as ms doesn't mean sasuke wasn't a prodigy, that's shit logic. You don't define prodigies by comparing them to each other, they were called prodigies because they stood out above their own clan's exceptional skills. Gosh, people just say shit without thinking, but that's the way of the world so I can't complain about y'all.
 

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That's my point. Kakashi was progressed through the ranks so fast because the level of competition back then was so damn low. Check this out, if the rank acually makes a difference then this will discount all your kid ranking up shit. When neji was only showing a portion of his skills vs hinata, lee said " I have on my team the most powerful genin to ever come out of the leaf " no one contested that not even gai who was both of their sensei or kakashi who was right there as well, and then kakashi even later stated when seeing neji's abilities that " I didn't know such a guy existed ". And kakasho obviously knew his onw abilities as a kid yet he stil said " I didn't know such a guy existed ".

things change character were not introduced at that point and that is a statement that lee made if kakashi said that it would be a different story. that would mean neji > kid kakashi. lee also said that knowin he could use gates and beat neji with it lee was the strongest with his gate.
 

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Sasuke is no prodigy, Itachi was a prodigy. Itachi MS >> Sasuke MS. Sasuke got almost every power up for free

Itachi may have been a better prodigy, but Sasuke was still a prodigy. Plus his potential ceiling was higher than Itachi's :coffee:
 

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if you counting sage naruto and sasuke yes but then you would also have to count juubi madara and jubbi madara+hahsirama>sage naruto and sasuke

when it come to fodder they will never leave fodder lvl part 1 konoha 11=fodder current konoha=11 fodder except naruto

Obito and Madara are from completely different generations, so I see no reason why they should be teamed up. Naruto or Sasuke >>> Madara or Hashirama from the past. Its as simple as that. It took Madara more than 100 years to become Juubi Jinchuuriki, Naruto and Sasuke are only 16.
 
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