Naruto's generation is really strong.

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That previous generation is more powerful than this one definatly
With the exception of maybe Hashi/Madara/Tobirama generation too

not really....
 

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Orochimaru gave him the Curse Seal = Huge power up during that time despite not having it under control.

Two Jins = Couldn't even control their bijuu.

how does this prove how Sasuke reaches the level of a prodigy? He had the power of a chunin but still didn't make the cut he still didn't graduate early despite having perfect scores across the board. IMO he's a genius not prodigy.

He is a genius as well as a prodigy. You are basing prodigy skills off of ninja exam rankings? That's absurd, name one shinobi that itachi had to fight as a kid through the chunin exams? Don't worry I'll wait for nothing because you won't find whatever fodder he faced, compare the fodder to the likes of lee, neji, naruto, gaara, kiba, shikamaru, choji, dosu, and many more, nobody itachi came up through the ranks with have even been mentioned, why? because they were fodder, sasuke's level of competition is higher which is why he didn't graduate through the ranks as fast.
 

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It's level of competition that caused itachi and kakashi to graduate the academy at such a young age as well as progress through the ranks like they did, to prove this look at the shinobi that kakashi had to fight as a kid up until the start of Naruto. He had to fight, asuma who is average, he had to fight kurenai( who is one of the weakest women shinobi ever, gai is the only shinobi that is exceptional from kakashi's generation besides himself. And Itachi's is even worse, his opponents aren't even known at all which means they are were suck fighters. Sasuke grew up fighting the Main, neji( who was the most skilled kid we have ever seen, lee, gaara who would have killed kid itachi or kid kakashi, sauske's had to fight harder competition which is why you think the rankings means something in this case when they don't because sasuke's level of competition > itachi's when they were young.

kakashi's era was in war, they needed them to become higher ranked so they can participate in war that's why they graduated early and leveled up in rank. Itachi on the other hand was born where the war was just about ending, he dominated academy in a blink of an eye. Sasuke graduated around the same time as Naruto lol. Who knows itachi may have fought shisui, the thing is its not all about power its about your intellect and power also which is why shika passed and sasuke didn't. your assuming his opponents was weak although that isn't important in the slightest. Sasuke had no competition in the academy but graduated at 12, Chunin exams shikamaru had competition worse than sasuke cause he's weak but still passed. There's more to passing the chunin exams than just power. Anywho back to my main point. Itachi = prodigy Sasuke = Genius you can believe what you want no point in discussing this when we both won't change our opinions.
He is a genius as well as a prodigy. You are basing prodigy skills off of ninja exam rankings? That's absurd, name one shinobi that itachi had to fight as a kid through the chunin exams? Don't worry I'll wait for nothing because you won't find whatever fodder he faced, compare the fodder to the likes of lee, neji, naruto, gaara, kiba, shikamaru, choji, dosu, and many more, nobody itachi came up through the ranks with have even been mentioned, why? because they were fodder, sasuke's level of competition is higher which is why he didn't graduate through the ranks as fast.
ok gonna play the power level game of who had to fight who at a certain time period. Who would win in a fight 13 year old Itachi or 13 Year old Sasuke. Who mastered MS at young age? who unlocked sharingan at the youngest age. Your assuming those no named participants were fodder but the fact is a 8 or 9(don't know specific age) beat people older than him and passed. I can prove to you that they were strong just like how you can't prove to me that they're weak. Not discussing this any further as i said in the quote above.
 
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I guess you don't understand level of competition. If you do than you would know it makes the difference and is the reason why at that time senju/uchiha were the best and most known. Also the senju and uchiha weren't that great. Only a handful of both less than 10 uchiha/senju are actually renown for their power throughout history. This generation's level of competition is much higher. A shinobi like part 1 neji would have been better than kid hashirama and kid madara, or even lee or sasuke and surely kid gaara was better than every kid version of the legendary shinobi's.

lol nobody wanted to fight either clans if they were against the senju they would pay the uchihas to fight them if they were against the uchiha they would pay the senju to fight them. uchiha and senju fought against almost ever clan together they made the strongest village. madara also proved gaara is fodder level one person beat the five kage of current generation. the strongest in there village. madara already fodderize SA with just 3 toma sharingan. hashirama>madara so hahisrama would fodderize them even worse than madara not to mention they fought for three day. they dont even need there clans to solo current generation with there clans it would not be a fight it would just be a massacre.
 

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not really....

You don't even know how to distinguish between generations. Nagato is not part of kakashi/obito's generation, he is a part of the generation before which is minato's generation in which kakashi was a kid.
 

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stronger than this fodder generation. uchiha and senju clan was feared by everyone else. they are stronger and more experience in battle than this generation. leaf fodder think tsuande is strong and leaf fodder cant beat tsunade. madara solo her plus four kage. madara and hahsirama solo whole generation. the two strongest clans solo the current leaf fodder clans

What do you mean by fodder generation? For example Sakura is only 16, yet shes high Jounin level Kunoichi on her way to surpass her mentor who is prabably the best med nin in history. I dont really think that 16 years old Uchiha and Senjuu from that time were superior to people like Lee, Neji, Gaara or Sakura. Of course, Madara and Hashirama were more powerful, but they are exceptions just like Naruto and Sasuke are in this generation.
 

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Orochimaru gave him the Curse Seal = Huge power up during that time despite not having it under control.

Two Jins = Couldn't even control their bijuu.

how does this prove how Sasuke reaches the level of a prodigy? He had the power of a chunin but still didn't make the cut he still didn't graduate early despite having perfect scores across the board. IMO he's a genius not prodigy.

Which handicapped him for period of the exams

Regardless of what they could or couldn't control, name someone else in this age bracket that could beat them

He didn't graduate early because he had the highest scores in hand to hand, ninjutsu, and genjutsu, but had the lowest score in teamwork. But I guess it is your opinion though
 

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I think we can't really judge. Look at the war Hashirama and Madara fought in. They were a lot older than our generation of shinobi. I agree with the others, you have to gauge it by age, but we know nothing about how strong the older generation was at a particular age.

I can bet you this though, Naruto and Sasuke are a lot stronger than 17 year old Hashirama and Madara.

A fair comparison would be to exclude Naruto, Sasuke, Hashirama, and Madara since they are the reincarnation of the sage's sons.
 

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kakashi's era was in war, they needed them to become higher ranked so they can participate in war that's why they graduated early and leveled up in rank. Itachi on the other hand was born where the war was just about ending, he dominated academy in a blink of an eye. Sasuke graduated around the same time as Naruto lol. Who knows itachi may have fought shisui, the thing is its not all about power its about your intellect and power also which is why shika passed and sasuke didn't. your assuming his opponents was weak although that isn't important in the slightest. Sasuke had no competition in the academy but graduated at 12, Chunin exams shikamaru had competition worse than sasuke cause he's weak but still passed. There's more to passing the chunin exams than just power. Anywho back to my main point. Itachi = prodigy Sasuke = Genius you can believe what you want no point in discussing this when we both won't change our opinions.

ok gonna play the power level game of who had to fight who at a certain time period. Who would win in a fight 13 year old Itachi or 13 Year old Sasuke. Who mastered MS at young age? who unlocked sharingan at the youngest age. Your assuming those no named participants were fodder but the fact is a 8 or 9(don't know specific age) beat people older than him and passed. I can prove to you that they were strong just like how you can't prove to me that they're weak. Not discussing this any further as i said in the quote above.

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u don't know the meaning of prodigy
 

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lol nobody wanted to fight either clans if they were against the senju they would pay the uchihas to fight them if they were against the uchiha they would pay the senju to fight them. uchiha and senju fought against almost ever clan together they made the strongest village. madara also proved gaara is fodder level one person beat the five kage of current generation. the strongest in there village. madara already fodderize SA with just 3 toma sharingan. hashirama>madara so hahisrama would fodderize them even worse than madara not to mention they fought for three day. they dont even need there clans to solo current generation with there clans it would not be a fight it would just be a massacre.

That time period was based on samurai most of the senju/uchiha fought like samurai then, and like I said you can only name less than 10 senju and uchiha together that are powerful and worthy of mention if you can't name more than 10 then might point is proven.


First off edo madara > ems madara so invalid and also gaara is better than 90% of shinobi from madara's and hashirama generation so you point continues to be invalid.


Also a generation is the sum total of people born in that era, not 1 person, and you are basing it off as best of the best when thats not how you view and entire generation. AS a whole generation the current is better, they have more powerful or above average shinobi now than it was then, from hashirama's generation, there was only madara and tobirama and izuna that were powerful enough to be known I can name more than 4 shinobi from the current generation that are powerful enough to be known and that would crush the average senju or uchiha of that generation. Even in real life the new generation > previous generation, there was a time when people thought the earth was the center of the universe, or that the earth was flat or that man could never get into the cosmos but look at us now, what the previous generations couldn't do the new can.
 

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kakashi's era was in war, they needed them to become higher ranked so they can participate in war that's why they graduated early and leveled up in rank. Itachi on the other hand was born where the war was just about ending, he dominated academy in a blink of an eye. Sasuke graduated around the same time as Naruto lol. Who knows itachi may have fought shisui, the thing is its not all about power its about your intellect and power also which is why shika passed and sasuke didn't. your assuming his opponents was weak although that isn't important in the slightest. Sasuke had no competition in the academy but graduated at 12, Chunin exams shikamaru had competition worse than sasuke cause he's weak but still passed. There's more to passing the chunin exams than just power. Anywho back to my main point. Itachi = prodigy Sasuke = Genius you can believe what you want no point in discussing this when we both won't change our opinions.

ok gonna play the power level game of who had to fight who at a certain time period. Who would win in a fight 13 year old Itachi or 13 Year old Sasuke. Who mastered MS at young age? who unlocked sharingan at the youngest age. Your assuming those no named participants were fodder but the fact is a 8 or 9(don't know specific age) beat people older than him and passed. I can prove to you that they were strong just like how you can't prove to me that they're weak. Not discussing this any further as i said in the quote above.

Like I said its all because of their level of competition being low, itachi didn't fight anyone that is worth of mention to come up through the ranks and thats a manga fact. Kakashi's group are asume who like i said is average and the rest are average ecxept fro gai so only one shinobi other than kakashi is above average, while is kid kakashi or kid gai or kid iachi had to face kid neji, or kid, gaara they would have got stomped neg diff, that's the difference between competition levels.
 

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What do you mean by fodder generation? For example Sakura is only 16, yet shes high Jounin level Kunoichi on her way to surpass her mentor who is prabably the best med nin in history. I dont really think that 16 years old Uchiha and Senjuu from that time were superior to people like Lee, Neji, Gaara or Sakura. Of course, Madara and Hashirama were more powerful, but they are exceptions just like Naruto and Sasuke are in this generation.

they are all fodder compared to uchiha and senju. only two that are not is sasuke and naruto they can hold there own against madara and hahsirama but in the end they will still loses. age dont mean nothing obito at 13 fodderize mist ninja and destroy kakashi became jounin at like 13 itachi beacame captain of anbu at 13.finaly she has reached jounin lvl at 16 good for her she is still fodder fodder will always be fodder. plus they fought all types of clans and none could beat them they were the 2 strongest clans by far. i was stated in manga that if you had to fight a sharingan run
 

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they are all fodder compared to uchiha and senju.

Thats only your speculation. There is no way to tell how powerful were 16 year old members of Senjuu and Uchiha from that time.
only two that are not is sasuke and naruto they can hold there own against madara and hahsirama but in the end they will still loses.
Lol? Current Naruto or Sasuke would easily beat Hashirama or Madara from the past.
age dont mean nothing obito at 13 fodderize mist ninja and destroy kakashi became jounin at like 13 itachi beacame captain of anbu at 13.finaly she has reached jounin lvl at 16 good for her she is still fodder fodder will always be fodder.
Actually, age means a lot. If a genious is powerful at the age of 13, he will be much more powerful at the age of 25, unless he stops training.
 

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they are all fodder compared to uchiha and senju. only two that are not is sasuke and naruto they can hold there own against madara and hahsirama but in the end they will still loses. age dont mean nothing obito at 13 fodderize mist ninja and destroy kakashi became jounin at like 13 itachi beacame captain of anbu at 13.finaly she has reached jounin lvl at 16 good for her she is still fodder fodder will always be fodder. plus they fought all types of clans and none could beat them they were the 2 strongest clans by far. i was stated in manga that if you had to fight a sharingan run

Only tobirama and hashirama were powerful enough to be known senju and only madara and izuna were powerful enough to be known as uchiha. True their clans were the best back then but you comparing the Roman army to the U.S. military.


Itachi and kakashi came up through the ranks that fast because there was no one to compete with them everyone they came up with were fodder except for guy, kid kakashi would have been destroyed by kid neji or kid gaara, kid itachi would have gotten stomped be kid gaara or kid neji so save that bull shit. I honestly think you are carrying on this argument just to make people upset.
 

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whoa no need to overpower her that much. This is motherf*cking tenten were talking about here the soloing queen of this series.

I honestly would have been really happy with Tenten if she knew who Kisame was and about his sword when they met him on their way to save Gaara. Like that would have made her cool.
 
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