[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 623 Discussion and 624 Predictions

[Vegeta]

I'm still calling BullSh** on Izuna and Tobirama knowing each other
4/5 for me only because of that

 

[Arugon]

oh i thought that was the mountain where the hokages faces were carved

It was, cypher is a dumb...

 

[BiggKenny]

So Tobirama must have been the one who killed Izuna or Hasihrama jumped to save his brother and killed Izuna in the process..Madara's father looks like a beast..Awesome chap

But I thought Izuna died after giving Madara his eyes and after they took control of the Uchiha clan?

 

[bunique]

nice chapter i liked it, not as much for the break tho... but didn't i read somewhere there would be a double issue after break on 3/15..
hmm anyhow, what i found interesting is in the last panel when senju and uchiha meet, izuna and tobirama already seems to know eachother ( it says "Yo Tobirama! and Yo Izuna! in the translation on *********** ( wich i like better ) ) overall chapter 4/5.

 

[Son Ryuto Uzumaki]

Izuna vs. Tobirama that's going to be interesting.

I think tobirama will win because he's more laid back Izuna has that wicked vibe/fire about him that I think Tobirama could put out

I like the Ideas they have to bad their hindrances are their families

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Its seems to me that this is the World greatest Bromance, Hashirama & Madara all odds are against them and their road to peace. R.I.P NEJI still can't believe he's gone its like a nightmare

 

[Ldude]

5/5 because their little faces are adorable. :3

 

[keepcalmandrasengan]

So Tobirama must have been the one who killed Izuna or Hasihrama jumped to save his brother and killed Izuna in the process..Madara's father looks like a beast..Awesome chap

You're kidding, right? We've been told how Izuna has been killed many times.

 

[sharingan17]

Love the ending, nice chapter, I really wonder wat happen to them,

 

[NineSNS]

Chapter confirms that Madara and Hashi had mutual trust and respect for each other, at least in the beginning. 5 of 5. Another break? I hope it's worth the wait.

 

[MWQ]

Well there wud no be release next week.

No chapter next week,....sorry

 

[Jurian Uchiha]

... a break ._____.


How dare they. Loved the chapter though. At least Hashi and Madara were good friends before! Could it be possible that their friendship will surface later in the story??? That'd be cooooooool!!!

 

[kmw1811]

Honestly, this shit didn't get good until the end, but still, it was a good chapter...

I feel as though Hashirama already knew that Madara was an Uchiha, anyone else?
Izuna (who resembles kid Sasuke a lot) XD VS. Tobirama = possibly EPIC :scorps:

I get this feeling that both Hashirama's and Madara's dads are going to die in the next chapter, which btw, I'm kind of pissed off about because we have to wait a week, or two???

I wonder how Hashirama and Madara will react to the fight?

***I'm enjoying these new emojis haha***

 

[Lankeysob]

I don't think so. At least not yet. They've already shown pictures of Izuna and Madara when they were older so Izuna isn't going to die yet.

 

[Jinchuriki Brawler]

I think madara and izunas dad is gonna die, and this is how they awaken ms

 

[Jaded210]

good chapter. i gave it a 5.
My prediction are
1. the families will fight but hashirama and madara will intervine on an intense moment, probably taking a hit for each others fathers or something. the fathers will be shocked and talk no jutsu will occur causing them to retreat for the kids wounds.
2. the families will stand off and start arguing, but other clans will come and catch them off guard, inturn causing them to fight together then retreat.

 

[Xaviour]

I always suspected Tobirama and Izuna to have met in combat seeing as the two older brothers were also rivals. Looks like I was right.

Liked the rock throwing trick those two did on each other, they were very much quite alike, but it looks like they can't turn their backs and run now that their families are involved. Will they be forced to fight each other or will they team up to try and stop the fighting? I think the former is more plausible...

5/5

 

[GeorgeLooney]

Batsama said he did a background check on Madara. That means he probably knew that he was the son of the Uchiha leader and the brother of Izuna. Since Tobirama was accompanying his father on the ambush, his dad probably gave him intel on what he might be up against, including the possibility of fighting Izuna. That and it's possible that Tobirama has fought Izuna before but the first thing I said makes more sense to me.

You're probably right, its just that the way I read it is more likely that they really knew each other and confronted each other in the past. I just find it ODD that younger ones we're more involved and have more intel than their brothers who is actually more superior in combat and skills. I mean its a family business so it is unlikely for hashirama and madara to be left out of such informations. And with Hashirama and Madara's skill they should be well known, it's like being Itachi, Kakashi, or Orochimaru who is well known genius during their childhood. I didn't mean it's impossible for Izuna and Tobirama to know more about each other than Hashirama and Madara, I just find it ODD...

 

[GeorgeLooney]

We haven't seen Hashirama use wood release yet, or even hint that he had this power. I suspect that Hashirama does not yet have wood release powers and will unlock them soon.

In these last two chapters, I suspect kishimoto is hinting at an idea that is very similar to one Golda Meir mentioned when talking about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict (I don't necessarily agree with her, I'm just pointing out a quote that I find to be very similar to what Hashirama is talking about): "Peace will come when [they] will love their children more than they hate us." In the last chapter we saw Hashirama's father express the idea that the war will be won when all the senju children become powerful warriors and when all the Uchiha children are killed. Hashirama seems to have a very similar opinion to the quote I just mentioned: Love and protect the children first, then hate the enemy. This change of priority seems to be the big difference between Hashirama and the rest of his clan.

I don't know if Kishi is familiar with mid-east politics or not, it just seemed like a relevant quote.

Madara warned Hashirama, just like Hashirama warned Madara. I think this means that both of them are being honest and both of them want peace.

My prediction is that in the next chapter we will see a fight. The families will start fighting each other, and the way that Madara and Hashirama get involved in the fight will shape the rest of the story going forward.

1) Hashirama and Madara both choose not to participate. I don't know where the story goes from here.
2) Hashirama and Madara both intervene to protect Izuna/Tobirama from being injured. In the battle, it's possible that Madara kills his own father to protect Izuna (and thus awakens his mangekyo). Maybe Izuna helps and also awakens his mangekyo. I suspect we will also see Hashirama either use his wood release for the first time, or learn to unlock it.
3) Hashirama and Madara both get angry and join the fight as enemies. This would lead to them each being seen as strong heros, and becoming leaders of their respective clans. However when they formed an alliance later, it wouldn't be as friendly or peaceful as it once was.

The eventual death of Izuna obviously is going to play a huge role in this story. It's important to notice that Madara's brother died, while Hashirama's brother lived. That difference is going to form the basis for the later rivalry.

It's obvious that Tobirama does not die here. It's equally obvious that Izuna does not die in this battle we're seeing right now either (He needs to unlock his MS first, so Madara can take it to form EMS). It is entirely possible that the two fathers die or are injured.

I was really looking forward to this issue, but I have to admit that it was a little bit boring. I think Kishi is stalling, or building up to something big. Without more action and without more plot/character development, I can't give this chapter too many stars.

I believe Kishi already gave a hint about Hashirama's real power. In chapter 622

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when Hashirama was angry a tree snap (Lower portion of the page) His father told him to calm down. Everybody thought that Hashirama is also the name of Hashirama's father cause they think Butsuma Senju is talking to himself, but actually Butsuma is saying to hashirama to calm down.

 

[GeorgeLooney]

It's answering Sasuke's questions. Sasuke asked "what's a village and who are shinobi?" Hashirama gave his idea about the village system as a community that is more important than a Clan,also as a place where shinobi irrespective of their Clan live together and where shinobi kids and other children will be protected. And Madara bought same stupid idea as a place where he could protect his younger brother.
That's a village for you.

Yeah... well said...

 

[schenka]

This has probably been said a bunch already, but I love the stone idea (to warn the other).

The fight should be wicked...well hopefully.