[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 596 Discussion and 597 Predictions

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I've tried to look up Kaen and Kaenjin and NOWHERE, NOWHERE DOES IT SAY FIRE BARRIER.
FIRE IN JAPANESE is KATON. If you have evidence otherwise send me the link!!
 

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-Sadly the colors will not be changed I prefer them just ignore it and simply not read what I say but most of the time my opinion is based on facts once again just for you I won't add color:hypertobi:

Fair enough, I think your posts have value and want to read them, but yeah it takes more effort for these eyes.



I like the idea of Tobi being Sasuke from the future. It makes the whole part where he tries to show Sasuke his face seem very odd and paradoxical though. Not very plausible, but I like it. I'd say it's more plausible than Tobi being Obito.
 

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tobi only sends the body parts he needs to the other dimension. kakashi's kunai scratched his mask because at that instant toni was dematerializing his face to avoid narutos punch. When the rasengan hit his shoulder it was because at that instant his right shoulder was dematerialized as he passes through naruto. on an extra note, as much as i hate to say it i think tobi is obito because kakashis MS sends things to the exact same dimension, and that sharingan used to belong to obito. Thats too much of a coincidence to let slide.
 

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Just because Tobi can use similar S/T techniques to Kakashi doesn't mean he is Obito, unless you believe Obito would have been the ONLY Uchiha IN HISTORY to EVER use a Kamui-esque tech.
 

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Very far fetched. People just can't let go that Obito is dead, and thats what makes his story so great.

:kaito::kaito::nexus::nexus::roku::mugi::kagutsuchi::kagutsuchi::
Don't Underestimate me, UCHIHA KAENJIN Which means Uchiha Flame Battle Encampment in English.
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all know Uchiha's Nature is mainly fire and sasuke also has an affinity for Electricity as we have come to find out on how he used to spam the living daylight out of Chidori. Also he still continues to use that affinity so it was probably a skill that was branded with the Name Uchiha so it could be something unique only they can do.
 

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Uchiha Kaenjin is a jutsu


Anyone can edit that naruto.wiki site its no official, its made by fans.

barrier - バリア (Baria) thats how its said in Japanese if u were wondering, and is pronounced almost just like english.
 

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I've tried to look up Kaen and Kaenjin and NOWHERE, NOWHERE DOES IT SAY FIRE BARRIER.
FIRE IN JAPANESE is KATON. If you have evidence otherwise send me the link!!

umadbro?

The link's been posted many times but why not:


Many words don't translate directly to english from Japanese. I don't know Japanese but just using simple deduction I come up with this:

Katon means "Fire Technique" or "Fire Style"
as
Suiton means "Water Technique" or "Water Style"

this seems to indicate that the common part of either languages correlate i.e.:
*ton means "* Style"

this leaves:
"Ka" meaning "Fire"
and
"Sui" meaning "Water"
at least when used as a prefix

"Kaenjin" begins with "Ka"
which to me would indicate that it is related to fire.
 

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Flame battle encampment is not the translation of Uchiha Kaenjin. Wiki.Naruto can be edited by anyone of us just like wiki, which is why when u go to college they will not let u use WIKI AS A SOURCE.
 

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umadbro?

The link's been posted many times but why not:


Many words don't translate directly to english from Japanese. I don't know Japanese but just using simple deduction I come up with this:

Katon means "Fire Technique" or "Fire Style"
as
Suiton means "Water Technique" or "Water Style"

this seems to indicate that the common part of either languages correlate i.e.:
*ton means "* Style"

this leaves:
"Ka" meaning "Fire"
and
"Sui" meaning "Water"
at least when used as a prefix

"Kaenjin" begins with "Ka"
which to me would indicate that it is related to fire.

His name may be related to fire, afterall he is an Uchiha, but I havent seen any Official translation that means flame battle encampment, that just silly and made up.
 

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God I love reading all these different opinions on Tobi's identity... all have adequate reasoning and all have flaws. I have no clue as to the truth, but all i can say is I don't really know what everyones problem with the Obito theory is, if it is Obito then i'm sure Kishi knows what he's diong and has a good reason for Obito turning into his new dark self... trust the master! In Kishi we trust!
 
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umadbro?

The link's been posted many times but why not:


Many words don't translate directly to english from Japanese. I don't know Japanese but just using simple deduction I come up with this:

Katon means "Fire Technique" or "Fire Style"
as
Suiton means "Water Technique" or "Water Style"

this seems to indicate that the common part of either languages correlate i.e.:
*ton means "* Style"

this leaves:
"Ka" meaning "Fire"
and
"Sui" meaning "Water"
at least when used as a prefix

"Kaenjin" begins with "Ka"
which to me would indicate that it is related to fire.

Looks like it's a rough translation to "Fire Ring" Then
 

Q of the Sharingan

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I've tried to look up Kaen and Kaenjin and NOWHERE, NOWHERE DOES IT SAY FIRE BARRIER.
FIRE IN JAPANESE is KATON. If you have evidence otherwise send me the link!!

See my post right above yours.

I also used google translate on the kanji.

うちは火炎陣 (Uchiha Kaenjin) = "The team flame out" on their. If you keep the order for each symbol then it would be "Out the flame team." Yea google translate probably translates it as literal and basic as it can. All in all it is a jutsu not a person's name.
 

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Just because Tobi can use similar S/T techniques to Kakashi doesn't mean he is Obito, unless you believe Obito would have been the ONLY Uchiha IN HISTORY to EVER use a Kamui-esque tech.
Yep you're right, but I think people see this connection between the dimension of Kakashi and Tobi as proof of Tobi having Obito's sharingan. Be open-minded people. This makes Obito/Obito's eye theories more plausible but still have far too many/deep holes for me to believe in.

His name may be related to fire, afterall he is an Uchiha, but I havent seen any Official translation that means flame battle encampment, that just silly and made up.
Look at that purple barrier used by the sound four - it's called shishienjin and it's a barrier ending with enjin. And there's Ka in front of this which I know stands for Fire. Sorry but you're making a virtual fool of yourself stating it's Tobi's name over and over :p
 
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Q of the Sharingan

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Anyone can edit that naruto.wiki site its no official, its made by fans.

barrier - バリア (Baria) thats how its said in Japanese if u were wondering, and is pronounced almost just like english.

There are many different ways of translating Japanese symbols to English and there are different ways that Japanese can be read. Baria cannot be the only word for a barrier in Japanese. Get over it. Uchiha Kaenjin is not Tobi's name. He said it right before he threw up the barrier.It is a jutsu.
 
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