[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 522 Discussion and 523 Predictions

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After seeing the likes of the 1st and 2nd Hokage and also Itachi and Nagato being revived by Edo Tensei this 7SM guys doesn't really look that toughxd
Actually, it is all about quantity, not quality. Let me explain - Oro summoned 2 great ninja. Kabuto summoned many more. Even if we take out the factor of Kabuto's summons using ninjutsu and genjustu, they still have taijutsu. And they don't get tired. I hope you get the point ;)
 

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Actually, it is all about quantity, not quality. Let me explain - Oro summoned 2 great ninja. Kabuto summoned many more. Even if we take out the factor of Kabuto's summons using ninjutsu and genjustu, they still have taijutsu. And they don't get tired. I hope you get the point ;)
Actually quality matters a lot. But Kakashi's group doesn't have any Kage Level ninjas except him so in this case quantity matters. For example we have seen it so many times guys like Madara and Kabuto take out so many members of the so called special Jounins and ANBU guys so easily at a time. But Kakashi's group doesn't have any other guy who is near to the level like for say any of the Kages so in this case those tough looking 7SM does look strong indeed only after being exhausted by some high level ninjas that were revived like that Gari guy.
 

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Kabuto's unknown summon from chapter 490. Given that he waves around that "sixth coffin" like his omniscient immunity license, I suspected he may try to use it to eliminate any personal attacks on his person. In all honesty, we have to be realistic and say that Kabuto's strength is derived entirely from Edo Tensei; take that technique away and it's not so difficult to defeat him anymore. Granted, he has another technique he claims to make himself invincible, but we've heard nothing of it so far; it's all hearsay at this point.
We know Madara isn`t afraid anymore from 1st hokage and maybe right now he isn`t scary from anybody because he is invincible.. we know Eddy clan was very powerful in sealing and right now Madara can be beaten by sealing him somewhere in.. and maybe in last coffet was sombody from Eddy clan powerfull which we don`t know who can seal Madara.. this is my guess.. :)
 
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Actually quality matters a lot. But Kakashi's group doesn't have any Kage Level ninjas except him so in this case quantity matters. For example we have seen it so many times guys like Madara and Kabuto take out so many members of the so called special Jounins and ANBU guys so easily at a time. But Kakashi's group doesn't have any other guy who is near to the level like for say any of the Kages so in this case those tough looking 7SM does look strong indeed only after being exhausted by some high level ninjas that were revived like that Gari guy.
My point is whether Kabuto summons 7 kages or 7 genin with Edo tensei, if there aren't people in Kakashi's division who can seal/immobilize them the battle will be pretty much wrapped up. The Edo summons don't tire EVER so the result in the end will be Kakashi's force wiped out. Sure, the kages will do that faster, but with the genin Kabuto can take his time if he wants to, after a few hours of battle I can guarantee that 9/10 of Kakashi's division will be extremely tired. It's not about being a kage-level ninja, it's about knowing the right jutsu to counter your opponent :p

P.S. And Kabuto doesn't lose powerful souls if backup arrives and seals some of the summons, he only loses 7 pitiful genin.
 

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My point is whether Kabuto summons 7 kages or 7 genin with Edo tensei, if there aren't people in Kakashi's division who can seal/immobilize them the battle will be pretty much wrapped up. The Edo summons don't tire EVER so the result in the end will be Kakashi's force wiped out. Sure, the kages will do that faster, but with the genin Kabuto can take his time if he wants to, after a few hours of battle I can guarantee that 9/10 of Kakashi's division will be extremely tired. It's not about being a kage-level ninja, it's about knowing the right jutsu to counter your opponent :p

P.S. And Kabuto doesn't lose powerful souls if backup arrives and seals some of the summons, he only loses 7 pitiful genin.
I get your point but remember every technique has a weakness and so does Edo Tensei. I remember Sarutobi blowing away the legs of the 1st and 2nd Hokage but that regenerated but what if the whole body of one of the summons is destroyed then it would be gone for good.
 

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My point is whether Kabuto summons 7 kages or 7 genin with Edo tensei, if there aren't people in Kakashi's division who can seal/immobilize them the battle will be pretty much wrapped up. The Edo summons don't tire EVER so the result in the end will be Kakashi's force wiped out. Sure, the kages will do that faster, but with the genin Kabuto can take his time if he wants to, after a few hours of battle I can guarantee that 9/10 of Kakashi's division will be extremely tired. It's not about being a kage-level ninja, it's about knowing the right jutsu to counter your opponent :p

P.S. And Kabuto doesn't lose powerful souls if backup arrives and seals some of the summons, he only loses 7 pitiful genin.
i think 7 genin wouldn't be any problem. i mean, immobilizing can also mean to hold down their legs and arms just by force. and that shouldn't be any problem for an entire division;)
 

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I get your point but remember every technique has a weakness and so does Edo Tensei. I remember Sarutobi blowing away the legs of the 1st and 2nd Hokage but that regenerated but what if the whole body of one of the summons is destroyed then it would be gone for good.
This theory was presented a few chapters back and was quickly proven wrong back when Deidara blew up Sai's brother:

 

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I get your point but remember every technique has a weakness and so does Edo Tensei. I remember Sarutobi blowing away the legs of the 1st and 2nd Hokage but that regenerated but what if the whole body of one of the summons is destroyed then it would be gone for good.
Erm, I think someone in the manga stated that even destroying the whole body at once won't get rid of the summons. But I could be wrong :)

i think 7 genin wouldn't be any problem. i mean, immobilizing can also mean to hold down their legs and arms just by force. and that shouldn't be any problem for an entire division;)
Okay then, 7 "weak" ninja who only have above the average speed and above the average taijutsu skills. My point is they are going to score some kills with surprise attacks and weaken the alliance forces a little bit. And what, people are going to take turns holding them down while they constantly try to free themselves? xd That would lower the manpower of the Alliance without lowering Kabuto's Edo tensei capabilities (he can always sacrifice weaklings at the beginning so that the strong summons fight less people in the end). All Kabuto needs are sacrifices.
 
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thats not possible...

the people who captured jugo and suigetsu are shinobi alliance, namely the samurai.
they have his sword...

kabuto is no where near that location.

how could the enemy have taken suigetsu's sword from the samurai?
to give it to zabuza who did not have the sword during this battle until the 7 mist shinobi were summoned... then suddenly he has it again...

it would be cooler if zabuza had it on some sort of jutsu that he could call it to himself.
or maybe it has something to do with the edo tensei of the 7 mist swordsmen...idk.

on another note:
dont forget that kakashi has 1000 jutsu, surely he can restrain these edo clowns...
I say he is gonna jack them with his sharingan warp jutsu...zabuza keeps saying "do whatever it takes" "please stop us no matter what" "we are dead, humanity is dead"
my assumption is that zabuza is trying to make kakashi not feel bad about doing something horrible to their bodies...kakashi has mad respect for the dead, and this whole situation probably puts him in a bad mood...but he has to do something...
 

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Ok If kabuto use more Jutsu to Bring Back the Dead thean there will be some of the main
Characters that might die or the some of the main Characters might or will die in the ending of the War 3. Well I don't really know what will happen next (lets just see whats happens end quote)
 

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I looked back through the chapters and I also counted 35 total summons. We saw at least 24 total at the end of 515 and it seemed likely that there were more people to the right of that Duri guy (Zabuza's group) and it was later confirmed that they had 2 more in their group (26 total). Kabuto added two more to the ambush group (28) and later used the tech on one of Madara's hostages, making 29. Finally, we saw the 6 last summons being the last generation of 7SM.

In regard to the mystery sixth coffin, I am getting the feeling that he might be amongst the already summoned.....the first indication comes at the end of 515 where we clearly see a person on the far left without a shown face:



Later on, we see this group a second time and again, only the mystery man's feet are present.



Lastly, and I think this one is the most significant, we only see part of his body again as Kabuto references them again.



The group this mystery man is a part of is the "emotional attachment group" that kabuto will use to mess with certain Ninja. I am not implying I have any idea who this mystery man is, but his face has been hid all these chapters for a reason and thus might be the original man from the sixth coffin. Thoughts?
Wonderful post. The first time I saw chapter 515, it too had struck me as to why Kishimoto decided to keep that unidentified man's face hidden from all the rest, in the midst of recognizable figures we know very well (Asuma, Dan, for example). But your post provided immensely helpful information that I had overlooked, such as the fact that he was shown again (but not entirely), which leads to the possible conclusion that he was the individual Kabuto used to blackmail Madara into joining forces.

Based on his attire, he does not appear to be a missing-nin, and is therefore from a village that held high regard for him. Another user theorized that the "sixth coffin" summon was someone from the Uzumaki clan, renowned for their sealing techniques, of which he has the ability to seal Madara permanently away, much like what Itachi did to Orochimaru in chapter 392. That could very well be true, but the other conclusion we can draw is that Kabuto has not sent that last summon out to the battlefield, and is instead keeping it as backup if someone attempts any attacks on his person (after all, the Shinobi Alliance is bound to run into Kabuto at one point or another).

As the war rages on, we might see Kabuto, facing a dire situation, attempt to utilize the unseen summon, whereby Madara will leap into action realizing what Kabuto may try to do with this aforementioned person, ending with the death of one of them, or maybe even both. Many possibilities still persist.
 

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even if kakashi uses kamui to blast them away he would probobly have to blast away the entire body of all of them and just one whole body takes a lot of effort and if he just does partial they can just grow back
 
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