After seeing the likes of the 1st and 2nd Hokage and also Itachi and Nagato being revived by Edo Tensei this 7SM guys doesn't really look that toughxd
Actually, it is all about quantity, not quality. Let me explain - Oro summoned 2 great ninja. Kabuto summoned many more. Even if we take out the factor of Kabuto's summons using ninjutsu and genjustu, they still have taijutsu. And they don't get tired. I hope you get the pointAfter seeing the likes of the 1st and 2nd Hokage and also Itachi and Nagato being revived by Edo Tensei this 7SM guys doesn't really look that toughxd
Actually quality matters a lot. But Kakashi's group doesn't have any Kage Level ninjas except him so in this case quantity matters. For example we have seen it so many times guys like Madara and Kabuto take out so many members of the so called special Jounins and ANBU guys so easily at a time. But Kakashi's group doesn't have any other guy who is near to the level like for say any of the Kages so in this case those tough looking 7SM does look strong indeed only after being exhausted by some high level ninjas that were revived like that Gari guy.Actually, it is all about quantity, not quality. Let me explain - Oro summoned 2 great ninja. Kabuto summoned many more. Even if we take out the factor of Kabuto's summons using ninjutsu and genjustu, they still have taijutsu. And they don't get tired. I hope you get the point![]()
We know Madara isn`t afraid anymore from 1st hokage and maybe right now he isn`t scary from anybody because he is invincible.. we know Eddy clan was very powerful in sealing and right now Madara can be beaten by sealing him somewhere in.. and maybe in last coffet was sombody from Eddy clan powerfull which we don`t know who can seal Madara.. this is my guess..Kabuto's unknown summon from chapter 490. Given that he waves around that "sixth coffin" like his omniscient immunity license, I suspected he may try to use it to eliminate any personal attacks on his person. In all honesty, we have to be realistic and say that Kabuto's strength is derived entirely from Edo Tensei; take that technique away and it's not so difficult to defeat him anymore. Granted, he has another technique he claims to make himself invincible, but we've heard nothing of it so far; it's all hearsay at this point.
My point is whether Kabuto summons 7 kages or 7 genin with Edo tensei, if there aren't people in Kakashi's division who can seal/immobilize them the battle will be pretty much wrapped up. The Edo summons don't tire EVER so the result in the end will be Kakashi's force wiped out. Sure, the kages will do that faster, but with the genin Kabuto can take his time if he wants to, after a few hours of battle I can guarantee that 9/10 of Kakashi's division will be extremely tired. It's not about being a kage-level ninja, it's about knowing the right jutsu to counter your opponentActually quality matters a lot. But Kakashi's group doesn't have any Kage Level ninjas except him so in this case quantity matters. For example we have seen it so many times guys like Madara and Kabuto take out so many members of the so called special Jounins and ANBU guys so easily at a time. But Kakashi's group doesn't have any other guy who is near to the level like for say any of the Kages so in this case those tough looking 7SM does look strong indeed only after being exhausted by some high level ninjas that were revived like that Gari guy.
I get your point but remember every technique has a weakness and so does Edo Tensei. I remember Sarutobi blowing away the legs of the 1st and 2nd Hokage but that regenerated but what if the whole body of one of the summons is destroyed then it would be gone for good.My point is whether Kabuto summons 7 kages or 7 genin with Edo tensei, if there aren't people in Kakashi's division who can seal/immobilize them the battle will be pretty much wrapped up. The Edo summons don't tire EVER so the result in the end will be Kakashi's force wiped out. Sure, the kages will do that faster, but with the genin Kabuto can take his time if he wants to, after a few hours of battle I can guarantee that 9/10 of Kakashi's division will be extremely tired. It's not about being a kage-level ninja, it's about knowing the right jutsu to counter your opponent
P.S. And Kabuto doesn't lose powerful souls if backup arrives and seals some of the summons, he only loses 7 pitiful genin.
i think 7 genin wouldn't be any problem. i mean, immobilizing can also mean to hold down their legs and arms just by force. and that shouldn't be any problem for an entire divisionMy point is whether Kabuto summons 7 kages or 7 genin with Edo tensei, if there aren't people in Kakashi's division who can seal/immobilize them the battle will be pretty much wrapped up. The Edo summons don't tire EVER so the result in the end will be Kakashi's force wiped out. Sure, the kages will do that faster, but with the genin Kabuto can take his time if he wants to, after a few hours of battle I can guarantee that 9/10 of Kakashi's division will be extremely tired. It's not about being a kage-level ninja, it's about knowing the right jutsu to counter your opponent
P.S. And Kabuto doesn't lose powerful souls if backup arrives and seals some of the summons, he only loses 7 pitiful genin.
This theory was presented a few chapters back and was quickly proven wrong back when Deidara blew up Sai's brother:I get your point but remember every technique has a weakness and so does Edo Tensei. I remember Sarutobi blowing away the legs of the 1st and 2nd Hokage but that regenerated but what if the whole body of one of the summons is destroyed then it would be gone for good.
I guess when the guards took it from Suigetsu, they gave it to Kabuto who gave it to the resurrected Zabuza...When did Zabuza get his half sword back ?
Erm, I think someone in the manga stated that even destroying the whole body at once won't get rid of the summons. But I could be wrongI get your point but remember every technique has a weakness and so does Edo Tensei. I remember Sarutobi blowing away the legs of the 1st and 2nd Hokage but that regenerated but what if the whole body of one of the summons is destroyed then it would be gone for good.
Okay then, 7 "weak" ninja who only have above the average speed and above the average taijutsu skills. My point is they are going to score some kills with surprise attacks and weaken the alliance forces a little bit. And what, people are going to take turns holding them down while they constantly try to free themselves? xd That would lower the manpower of the Alliance without lowering Kabuto's Edo tensei capabilities (he can always sacrifice weaklings at the beginning so that the strong summons fight less people in the end). All Kabuto needs are sacrifices.i think 7 genin wouldn't be any problem. i mean, immobilizing can also mean to hold down their legs and arms just by force. and that shouldn't be any problem for an entire division![]()
Wonderful post. The first time I saw chapter 515, it too had struck me as to why Kishimoto decided to keep that unidentified man's face hidden from all the rest, in the midst of recognizable figures we know very well (Asuma, Dan, for example). But your post provided immensely helpful information that I had overlooked, such as the fact that he was shown again (but not entirely), which leads to the possible conclusion that he was the individual Kabuto used to blackmail Madara into joining forces.I looked back through the chapters and I also counted 35 total summons. We saw at least 24 total at the end of 515 and it seemed likely that there were more people to the right of that Duri guy (Zabuza's group) and it was later confirmed that they had 2 more in their group (26 total). Kabuto added two more to the ambush group (28) and later used the tech on one of Madara's hostages, making 29. Finally, we saw the 6 last summons being the last generation of 7SM.
In regard to the mystery sixth coffin, I am getting the feeling that he might be amongst the already summoned.....the first indication comes at the end of 515 where we clearly see a person on the far left without a shown face:
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Later on, we see this group a second time and again, only the mystery man's feet are present.
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Lastly, and I think this one is the most significant, we only see part of his body again as Kabuto references them again.
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The group this mystery man is a part of is the "emotional attachment group" that kabuto will use to mess with certain Ninja. I am not implying I have any idea who this mystery man is, but his face has been hid all these chapters for a reason and thus might be the original man from the sixth coffin. Thoughts?