[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 521 Discussion and 522 Predictions

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hate to bring up a sore subject again, but it sounds more n more like Tobi is not Madara , plus with the covering of the face the scars on the face the one left eye being traded out it seems like Obito fits the discription very well
But Obito had his right side crushed, not left.
 

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Ya right don't see Kabuto getting defeated that easily. And you are right about Shikarmaru and Ino they won't be able to release the technique. And isn't it obvious guys like Shikamaru or Ino won't do it. It has to be done by any of the other ELITE guys like Naruto, Sasuke or Madara.

What about Ino's dad, he may just be strong enough to force Kabuto into saying Release... Just a thought...
 

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yup i miss shikamaru's jutsu specially his genius strategy, the assistant general of division 4 huh? mmmm... i think shikamaru will contribute a big role on this war... maybe he is the one who will discover the total weakness of impure world resurrection or this zetsus thing, can't wait to see how he will fight with his sensei asuma...
yes he will definitely pose serious problems especially with kabuto's plans. kage mane will help mind transfer tech user to "weaken" kabuto's will control over the summons. once kabuto's hold on the "spell" is discovered...edo tensei will go down as one of the most lame techs there is...then bye-bye kabuto...

"that tech" kabuto refers to would be "near immortality" tech similar to that of oro's body transfer every 3 years. it could be regenerative powers to sustain chakra brought about by the "zetsu spores" he gained from madara's invention.

No. Sasuke don't care about Jugo just like he doesn't care about Karin even almost killed her along with Danzo. He just need them to on his side to successful in his goal all he cares about. he is a avenge person.

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hi there try1x07!

sasuke left jugo and suigetsu for these reasons...

1. sasuke doesn't like them to die protecting him...
2. sasuke's goal to "kill" itachi was done...enough reason to set the two free (they were recruited for that purpose)
3. sasuke doesn't show he cares...we read it in between the lines

regarding "karin"...read my post long ago with gaminpastor...here it goes...

glad to hear from you gaminpastor!

no, sasuke did not leave karin dead…technically; it was danzo who “killed” karin. danzo held karin hostage. karin became a collateral damage.

this is sasuke’s genius.
sasuke knew that konoha shinobis won’t leave karin for dead. kakashi and sakura attended to karin even for the mere fact that karin was an enemy. sasuke knew this from the start.
kakashi might have other plans for karin, but definitely he won’t kill karin as well if not provoked.
see…you are correct. sasuke is very intelligent. he won’t let madara know he is soft.
sasuke has other plans. he will tell us about life. he will show to us some teachings we will learn even though he is in the dark right now.

sasuke is a genius. and so is Naruto. let me discuss why we differ in opinions here.

Naruto’s genius is not shown in the storylines…yet. but some are already realizing it. as you said, “Naruto’s never say die” and “never give-up way of a ninja” is his ultimate ability. it inspires almost all. isn’t this “HEAVY GENIUS?”

to “never give-up” is the zenith and pinnacle of “perseverance”. i hope you agree. it is there at the very top. jiraiya and Naruto, perhaps minato are the proponents. therefore, they too are geniuses. are you not convinced that Minato and Kuchina are top level geniuses? if you do, then ergo ..Naruto is a genius.

Naruto’s genius is still hidden, it is unrecognizable and it is as we say “ read in between the lines .”

no, sasuke is not stronger than Naruto. Naruto will always be stronger if not as strong as sasuke. we will break the equilibrium or balance in the manga if we view sasuke stronger than Naruto. just an honest opinion.

if i may ask you gaminpastor, do you adhere to the belief that “good always prevails over evil?”. if you do, then this is basic - Naruto’s good nature is always stronger than sasuke’s darkening nature… powers and abilities included.

...how about it try1x07? i am very impressed with your "tobi theory"...far better than kabuto's case character!!! you are one gorgeous mind...

I think it was made very obvious that they still pose a dangerous threat. I mean that attack was massive and they were all still in one piece thereafter. I think we will see that fight resume soon.

As to how they travel, you made me rethink something. When it came to how the original Zetsu traveled underground, most notably when he followed Madara to Itachi's death site, I believed that he actually 'merged' with the Earth and traveled through it kind of like an electric impulse through the ground. Very fast, yes, but not as fast as madara's teleportation. Seeing the thousands of white Zetsu's shot up in the air like that kind of takes a crap on that theory but perhaps only black/white Zetsu can travel underground like I said or maybe the Zetsu's solidified underground before rising for an attack. Sound possible?
yo buddy!

i see we differ in "how soon the zetsus will pose as threat to the group who decimated them again".

i say not soon enough...here is why...
1. if they vanished...seem the chakra they possess were gone in mid air...
2. i like your theory attaching the zetsu ground travelling tech. the "electric impulse" is really slower than that of teleportation tech.

since, they were sent flying "in the air" their "conduction" with the earth element disappeared. the air seems to be a "non-conductor" (say if ain't so...)
...leading us to conclude that the chakras possessed by the zetsus were dispersed. and they will go back to the source --- the heretical statue...where they will be reconstituted...this will take time though
...the 20000 zetsu will not be a "threat" soon enough.

..your theories are very interesting floydical...
 
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What about Ino's dad, he may just be strong enough to force Kabuto into saying Release... Just a thought...
I know he must be strong but the thing is at this point of the manga even all those special Jounins and even some Kages doesn't fall into the category of the likes of Madara Naruto Sasuke and Kabuto. So I don't see any other ninjas beating Kabuto's Edo Tensei technique, if Kabuto is beaten it must be any of those other three.
 

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jabznaruto I agree with most of the things you said, yes Naruto is a genius but not a natural one like Sasuke. Naruto comes up with all these new things just when it is need the most Sasuke can do the same but Naruto isn't like the natural pure genius as Sasuke. But I don't agree with you on the Karin part. Sasuke really didn't had any sort of feelings and that's why he tried to kill Danzou through Karin, he knew that if that lightning chakra was strong enough to kill Danzou then it would obviously be a huge threat to Karin's life. And at that time Sasuke doesn't really had time to think about Karin. I think that was the time when Sasuke really turned like the evil guy trying to kill one of his comrades who actually saved his ass a couple of times. The crazy look on Sasuke's eyes was turned off only when Naruto was there. And its obvious that he also tried to kill Sakura twice so the thing is Sasuke has changed he now really doesn't care about his comrades, he knew that Sakura would never really try to kill him but he attacked her with the intention of killing her. So simple Sasuke now has changed and doesn't care about anyone, his main goal is to destroy Konoha and then Madara because he also helped in the Uchiha massacre and then revive the Uchiha clan.
 

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jabznaruto I agree with most of the things you said, yes Naruto is a genius but not a natural one like Sasuke. Naruto comes up with all these new things just when it is need the most Sasuke can do the same but Naruto isn't like the natural pure genius as Sasuke. But I don't agree with you on the Karin part. Sasuke really didn't had any sort of feelings and that's why he tried to kill Danzou through Karin, he knew that if that lightning chakra was strong enough to kill Danzou then it would obviously be a huge threat to Karin's life. And at that time Sasuke doesn't really had time to think about Karin. I think that was the time when Sasuke really turned like the evil guy trying to kill one of his comrades who actually saved his ass a couple of times. The crazy look on Sasuke's eyes was turned off only when Naruto was there. And its obvious that he also tried to kill Sakura twice so the thing is Sasuke has changed he now really doesn't care about his comrades, he knew that Sakura would never really try to kill him but he attacked her with the intention of killing her. So simple Sasuke now has changed and doesn't care about anyone, his main goal is to destroy Konoha and then Madara because he also helped in the Uchiha massacre and then revive the Uchiha clan.
yes sennin...

it is agreed then that both Naruto and sasuke are genuises for the two of us.
it doesnt matter how ...but that they both are -- seems nice as confirmation.

now, with sasuke's plight re karin...we view it differently.
come to think of it...several times that sasuke would fall to killing someone, but as many the times the events were foiled for sasuke's sake. that sasuke is not a grim person -- that is what the manga is telling us.

1. he had the opportunity to kill Naruto at the valley of death...he did not
2. he had opportunities to kill his friends...he did not
3. during his training with karin in rounding up the prisoners...he did not kill a soul.
4. he kills anyone who is worthy to kill...danzo, deidara (no, deidara killed himself in defeat), itachi (no, itachi gave his life to sasuke), orochimaru (no, oro was already an immortal - itachi did him in)

kishi is linking sasuke's good nature with Naruto's.
sasuke is not evil
sasuke is not demonic
sasuke and Naruto are "friends"...for life...and that is their destiny...that is the truth.
 

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yes sennin...

it is agreed then that both Naruto and sasuke are genuises for the two of us.
it doesnt matter how ...but that they both are -- seems nice as confirmation.

now, with sasuke's plight re karin...we view it differently.
come to think of it...several times that sasuke would fall to killing someone, but as many the times the events were foiled for sasuke's sake. that sasuke is not a grim person -- that is what the manga is telling us.

1. he had the opportunity to kill Naruto at the valley of death...he did not
2. he had opportunities to kill his friends...he did not
3. during his training with karin in rounding up the prisoners...he did not kill a soul.
4. he kills anyone who is worthy to kill...danzo, deidara (no, deidara killed himself in defeat), itachi (no, itachi gave his life to sasuke), orochimaru (no, oro was already an immortal - itachi did him in)

kishi is linking sasuke's good nature with Naruto's.
sasuke is not evil
sasuke is not demonic
sasuke and Naruto are "friends"...for life...and that is their destiny...that is the truth.
The thing is Sasuke was never evil until the fight with Danzou he tried to kill Danzou knowing it will also kill Karin, then he tried to kill Sakura two times and Kakashi was able to save her once and then it took Naruto to save her. What you are saying is right but that's a thing of the past now Sasuke is totally different sorta like a maniac and it was Naruto who was able to calm him down. So yes Sasuke wasn't really evil when he joined Oro but now things have changed he is one of the bad guys at least for me for trying to kill his comrade Karin and also Sakura whom Sasuke knew pretty well that she would never have the guts to kill him. But if Kishi wants to change the view later on then it may happen as you say but as far as I see it that won't happen.
 

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yes he will definitely pose serious problems especially with kabuto's plans. kage mane will help mind transfer tech user to "weaken" kabuto's will control over the summons. once kabuto's hold on the "spell" is discovered...edo tensei will go down as one of the most lame techs there is...then bye-bye kabuto...

"that tech" kabuto refers to would be "near immortality" tech similar to that of oro's body transfer every 3 years. it could be regenerative powers to sustain chakra brought about by the "zetsu spores" he gained from madara's invention.



hi there try1x07!

sasuke left jugo and suigetsu for these reasons...

1. sasuke doesn't like them to die protecting him...
2. sasuke's goal to "kill" itachi was done...enough reason to set the two free (they were recruited for that purpose)
3. sasuke doesn't show he cares...we read it in between the lines

regarding "karin"...read my post long ago with gaminpastor...here it goes...

glad to hear from you gaminpastor!

no, sasuke did not leave karin dead…technically; it was danzo who “killed” karin. danzo held karin hostage. karin became a collateral damage.

this is sasuke’s genius.
sasuke knew that konoha shinobis won’t leave karin for dead. kakashi and sakura attended to karin even for the mere fact that karin was an enemy. sasuke knew this from the start.
kakashi might have other plans for karin, but definitely he won’t kill karin as well if not provoked.
see…you are correct. sasuke is very intelligent. he won’t let madara know he is soft.
sasuke has other plans. he will tell us about life. he will show to us some teachings we will learn even though he is in the dark right now.

sasuke is a genius. and so is Naruto. let me discuss why we differ in opinions here.

Naruto’s genius is not shown in the storylines…yet. but some are already realizing it. as you said, “Naruto’s never say die” and “never give-up way of a ninja” is his ultimate ability. it inspires almost all. isn’t this “HEAVY GENIUS?”

to “never give-up” is the zenith and pinnacle of “perseverance”. i hope you agree. it is there at the very top. jiraiya and Naruto, perhaps minato are the proponents. therefore, they too are geniuses. are you not convinced that Minato and Kuchina are top level geniuses? if you do, then ergo ..Naruto is a genius.

Naruto’s genius is still hidden, it is unrecognizable and it is as we say “ read in between the lines .”

no, sasuke is not stronger than Naruto. Naruto will always be stronger if not as strong as sasuke. we will break the equilibrium or balance in the manga if we view sasuke stronger than Naruto. just an honest opinion.

if i may ask you gaminpastor, do you adhere to the belief that “good always prevails over evil?”. if you do, then this is basic - Naruto’s good nature is always stronger than sasuke’s darkening nature… powers and abilities included.

...how about it try1x07? i am very impressed with your "tobi theory"...far better than kabuto's case character!!! you are one gorgeous mind...



yo buddy!

i see we differ in "how soon the zetsus will pose as threat to the group who decimated them again".

i say not soon enough...here is why...
1. if they vanished...seem the chakra they possess were gone in mid air...
2. i like your theory attaching the zetsu ground travelling tech. the "electric impulse" is really slower than that of teleportation tech.

since, they were sent flying "in the air" their "conduction" with the earth element disappeared. the air seems to be a "non-conductor" (say if ain't so...)
...leading us to conclude that the chakras possessed by the zetsus were dispersed. and they will go back to the source --- the heretical statue...where they will be reconstituted...this will take time though
...the 20000 zetsu will not be a "threat" soon enough.

..your theories are very interesting floydical...
Nisan jabznaruto! i believed you will become a powerful ninja someday... but b4 it will happen, i will send anbu black ops to assassinate you... lol
 

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The thing is Sasuke was never evil until the fight with Danzou he tried to kill Danzou knowing it will also kill Karin, then he tried to kill Sakura two times and Kakashi was able to save her once and then it took Naruto to save her. What you are saying is right but that's a thing of the past now Sasuke is totally different sorta like a maniac and it was Naruto who was able to calm him down. So yes Sasuke wasn't really evil when he joined Oro but now things have changed he is one of the bad guys at least for me for trying to kill his comrade Karin and also Sakura whom Sasuke knew pretty well that she would never have the guts to kill him. But if Kishi wants to change the view later on then it may happen as you say but as far as I see it that won't happen.
in the end naruto holy spheech turn sasuke to kitty-cat sasuke.. kishi said in some interview... he also said in the great war one great ninja is gonna die and one man is gonna seriously injure and he give up fight forever....
 

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in the end naruto holy spheech turn sasuke to kitty-cat sasuke.. kishi said in some interview... he also said in the great war one great ninja is gonna die and one man is gonna seriously injure and he give up fight forever....
I don't want the guy dying to be Naruto and the guy giving up fight forever to be Sasuke, vice versa will do great. Or the great ninja dying would be Sasuke and the ninja giving up fight forever to be Madara that would be something elsexdxd:D
 

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I don't want the guy dying to be Naruto and the guy giving up fight forever to be Sasuke, vice versa will do great. Or the great ninja dying would be Sasuke and the ninja giving up fight forever to be Madara that would be something elsexdxd:D
now seriously.. i think kakashi manage a really seriously wound, and he give up to be ninja...
bcz he have small chakra and he used full on MS.....

or yamato gonna die, and madara or kabuto gonna wound badly....
 

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yes sennin...

it is agreed then that both Naruto and sasuke are genuises for the two of us.
it doesnt matter how ...but that they both are -- seems nice as confirmation.

now, with sasuke's plight re karin...we view it differently.
come to think of it...several times that sasuke would fall to killing someone, but as many the times the events were foiled for sasuke's sake. that sasuke is not a grim person -- that is what the manga is telling us.

1. he had the opportunity to kill Naruto at the valley of death...he did not
2. he had opportunities to kill his friends...he did not
3. during his training with karin in rounding up the prisoners...he did not kill a soul.
4. he kills anyone who is worthy to kill...danzo, deidara (no, deidara killed himself in defeat), itachi (no, itachi gave his life to sasuke), orochimaru (no, oro was already an immortal - itachi did him in)

kishi is linking sasuke's good nature with Naruto's.
sasuke is not evil
sasuke is not demonic
sasuke and Naruto are "friends"...for life...and that is their destiny...that is the truth.
Interesting opinion, but I think it can mostly boil down to this: Sasuke is still a somewhat normal person with feelings in most situations who likes to show no fear, but when it comes to his revenge (one example being Karin in cross-fire), he is a heartless and evil presence who does not care about anything else.

I think that at that moment, he was literally focused on the best way of killing Danzou and did not care if Karin died with him. I don't think he thought anything about the Leaf healing/ helping her. It was just an act of pure emotion on his part.

And in regard to the Zetsu traveling through the ground via an electric impulse theory, I think that was primarily influenced by an Episode of Avatar (The Swamp). But it may in fact explain his speed of travel.
 

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How would Oro be able to be revived if he was sealed inside Itachi's sword? There must be alot of twist in the plot of this shit, starting to get confusing lol.
The plot twist is this, Orochimaru was not sealed into the sword of Totsuka also known as Sakegari's Katana by Susanoo. He actually used his snake escape technique and left his body before it was sealed. He was later burnt up by amaterasu. So, his soul could be revived.



 
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The plot twist is this, Orochimaru was not sealed into the sword of Totsuka also known as Sakegari's Katana by Susanoo. He actually used his snake escape technique and left his body before it was sealed. He was later burnt up by amaterasu. So, his soul could be relieved.



how can you proof that litle white snake is orochimaru?

anko also killed one white snake when that white snake is burnt up by amateratsu....
 
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