[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 521 Discussion and 522 Predictions

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But I thought that when you get MS, you get to use Amaretsu in the right eye and Tsyukiomi in the left eye, and when you use both eyes it's Susanoo?
And I also thought Itachi only implanted Amaretsu in Sasuke's eye and not his abilities. So.... am I missing something?
Yes I believe you are :). MS spawns in a person during a time of extreme distress and the abilities one spawns from that experience are 100% unique to that person and his MS. When itachi died, he implanted ALL of his abilities into sasuke and when he developed the MS soon after, he spawned a unique form of Susanoo while the others stayed basically the same.
 

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Who thinks Kabuto told Madara the truth about Edo Tensei not having any disadvantages?
Here's what I think:
Kabuto has a large amount of chakra but he uses most of it to keep his summons under control, Edo Tensei has a weakness and disadvantage, the weakness is the if the summoned souls have the full awareness and consciousness they can undo the technique after they have fulfilled the one thing most important to them when they were alive. We seen this with Sasori and Sai's brother/friend.

Now I follow the manga down to the smallest detail and I came across this idea:
Kabuto is able to summon a vast amount of ninja back from the dead because of his high chakrh chakra resource but he dosen't have enough chakra to suppress all of their emotions. So the disadvantage of Edo Tensei is it uses large amounts of chakra depending on the number of souls revived by the user, in the last chapter Kabuto said "if I had to fight against the rinnengan here, I'd be in trouble" so I thought why would Kabuto be scared of Madara when he has his trump card! His sixth coffin to keep Madara in his place, but then I thought maybe if things even got out of hand Kabuto couldn't summon anyone else for the fact that he was low on chakra, and then when I saw Kabuto used Anko in his ritual I instantly thought two things: Kabuto is using her as a chakra amplifier (because Kabuto's chakra is too low) to increase the bind of Edo Tensei through Orochimaru's curSe Seal or he is somehow planning to resurrect Lord Orochimaru through Anko ! Just a thought
kabuto is probably planning to place his summons under the effects of cursed seal mark..
 

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Yes I believe you are :). MS spawns in a person during a time of extreme distress and the abilities one spawns from that experience are 100% unique to that person and his MS. When itachi died, he implanted ALL of his abilities into sasuke and when he developed the MS soon after, he spawned a unique form of Susanoo while the others stayed basically the same.
Or perhaps because Sasuke and Itachi are brothers they have similar abilities, only Itachi is skilled in Tsukoyomi and Sasuke is skilled in Amaterasu (blaze release, remember?). I guess we won't know which of these two theories is the right one.
 

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Someting wrong with this manga WHERE IS KARIN NOW!???? last time Morino Ibiki raped karin or nobody know what happened karin is disappeared from naruto world.. :D :D
With SUIGETSU and JUUGO... I hope anime is gonna show.... maybe some filler episodes
 
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Also for that tobi/shisui/obito/madara thing. It HAS to be Madara, because Obito died when he was like 12, who would have found his body under all those rocks? Shisui can't possibly be tobi because Itachi killed him in order to get the MS, if it was Shisui how could he have MS if he didn't kill Itachi who was suppose to be his bestfriend. With that said, it must be Madara, or maybe it's just some next guy no one knows about. I would say Madara's lil brother or son or something but that would be just ridiculous lol. Also if you look back in the anime when Tobi spoke to Sasuke, in one of the flashbacks Tobi spoke about how Itachi knew of his existence and sought him out to not bring harm to Sasuke and he would help Madara destroy the Uchiha clan. And it SHOWS Itachi and Madara speaking.
No. Danzo took one of right eye from Shisui and even Madara is involved, he took one of his left eye and that's why 4th yagura, Mizukage was controlled by madara. Shisui's eyes known as powerful techinque to able to control another person, even a user Byakugan, AO stated it.
 

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nice prediction there boobiee220!

jugo would be a good cursed mark dna source and power for kabuto. but i think anko suits kabuto's purpose because of orochimaru's chakra and the "cursed seal" which orochimaru also experimented on anko.

should kabuto use jugo, probably sasuke now has a reason to go after kabuto -- more than the sight of "itachi" as one of the summons.

jugo is a good friend sasuke would treasure..

just as yamato to Naruto.
No. Sasuke don't care about Jugo just like he doesn't care about Karin even almost killed her along with Danzo. He just need them to on his side to successful in his goal all he cares about. he is a avenge person.

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Reading a lot of information, especially information from issue 520 (I've read some of the spoilers), I'm starting to put together a theory about Madara. I'm marking this post as a SPOILER because I mention some things from the spoiler for 520. Don't read this if you are trying to be surprised by 520.

What do we know about Tobirama? He was extremely powerful. He was a master of water style and space/time jutsus. He also apparently conceived of the most evil jutsu in the entire series: Edo Tensei, the ability to trap a dead soul into a body by killing a sacrifice. When he become Hokage, Tobirama created the police force to segregate the Uchiha from the rest of the village. Tobirama sacrificed himself during the second great ninja war to save his squad. We never see him die, and none of the characters seem to have seen it either. He was apparently the most powerful ninja alive at the time of his death.

What do we know about Madara? He was an extemely powerful Uchiha who frequently fought Hashirama, because the two of them were the tops of their clans. He apparently died in battle against Hashirama, with many witnesses. But he claims otherwise: Instead of dieing he somehow gained Hashirama's power during the battle and eventually learned Izanagi, Gained the rinnegan to give to Nagato, grew some of Hashirama's cells for the big flower thing, and used it to create a gigantic army of Zetsu clones.

Much later, Orochimaru learns the secrets of Edo Tensei and "perfects" it before being merged with Kabuto. Keep in mind that only Kabuto called in "perfect", and Kabuto is evil. Tobirama would not have called Kabuto's version of Edo Tensei "perfect". In fact, I don't think the two are the same jutsu.

If Tobirama was a good guy, it seems weird that he would have created the most evil jutsu. I think it's pretty unlikely that Tobirama would have ever attempted it or practiced it, because people would get upset if the Hokage were killing sacrifices to test a new Jutsu. That's an evil kind of thing and not something the Hokage would be able to do. Tobirama loved his people, loved his village, sacrificed himself for others, and would not have used something evil like Edo Tensei. He probably wouldn't even have thought about it, at least not the way Orochimaru used it.

Orochimaru on the other hand is evil. He can do evil things like kill people for Edo Tensei. We frequently see him sacrifice the people around him for his personal gain. We frequently see him kill people for experiments, and he would have had no problem doing that for Edo Tensei. Kabuto claims he did many experiments with it.

Let's assume that Tobirama developed a technique that allowed him to communicate with the souls of dead people, and maybe gain their power and learn techniques from those souls, temporarily. This technique would have been very helpful, but it would have been limited because Tobirama didn't want to hurt anybody while doing it. Even in this limited state, Tobirama would have appeared to be the most powerful ninja in the world because he could use the combined powers of other ninja who had already died. Orochimaru would have seen the limitations as "imperfections" and would have been eager to "perfect" the technique. He wouldn't have worried about killing people in his experiments until he found a version that he could use.

Tobirama develops a technique that helps give him power and knowledge. It allows him to use the souls of dead friends to help him protect the village. This is perfectly reasonable, and something a Hokage might do. It is a little dark, but isn't evil and doesn't require sacrifice. Plus, it helps people communicate with their dead loved ones, and bring peace to souls killed in battle. Orochimaru turned it evil, but removed some of the limitations from it.

This assumption is perfectly in line with everything we know about these two characters: Tobirama loves people and forms strong bonds with them which last after death. Orochimaru does not value people, and is willing to sacrifice their lives for his experiments and use their souls as tools to help increase his power.

Now, enter Madara/Toby. This character does not appear to have any EMS techniques like the real Madara was supposed to have. He also was supposed to have died in the Valley of the End, but is still alive. Itachi says he is just a shell of his former self. He now has Izanagi, which appears to require both Uchiha and Senju essence in order to perform it.

What if Madara is an Edo Tensei soul trapped in the living body of Tobirama? What if Madara is a "shell of his former self" because he was created using the "imperfect" form of Edo Tensei that Tobirama created?

Tobirama is in the second ninja war and his team is surrounded. He sends the rest of his team off and prepares to engage 20 ninja by himself. He's fighting and dieing, so he uses one last Jutsu: Edo Tensei. He summons the soul of a powerful warrior into himself so he can give his friends a few more minutes to escape. That powerful warrior is Madara. Madara's soul gives Tobirama more chakra and he can continue the fight, eventually defeating all his enemies.

Tobirama would have used space/time jutsus in the battle, so Madara's soul would have witnessed those and learned them. Tobirama would probably not have used Edo Tensei again, so Madara's soul would not have seen it and would not know it.

Kabuto's Edo Tensei keeps all the abilities of the soul he summons: Itachi still has his MS, Nagato still has his rinnegan, etc. The souls that Kabuto summons are also invincible. Either of these things could change as the limitations in Tobirama's version. Maybe the summoned madara had sharingan but not EMS. Maybe he could live for a long time but was not completely invulnerable

Tobirama uses almost all his chakra and cannot control the soul of Madara Uchiha any more. He dies, and Madara's soul takes over his body. Now we have "Madara" with the body of the Senju and the spirit of the Uchiha, with Sharingan (but not MS), with powerful space/time jutsu like Tobirama had, but limited in power because of the "incomplete" Edo Tensei that Tobirama used. He's probably not indestructable like Kabuto's version, but he has been alive for a very long time without dieing. He is now a shell of his former self who needs to use the power of the Sage of Six paths to make himself whole again. In other words, he needs to create a real body for himself, and move his soul back into a real Uchiha body where he will gain all of his old powers again.

Madara's "real" body could not be in the coffin, because Madara's soul is in Tobirama and cannot be summoned from there. Tobirama could not be in the coffin either, because he cannot be summoned again, because he was sealed by Hiruzen. This theory does not explain who was in that damn coffin.

Tell me what do you think, guys? That theory may best than Obito's theory.
 

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Reading a lot of information, especially information from issue 520 (I've read some of the spoilers), I'm starting to put together a theory about Madara. I'm marking this post as a SPOILER because I mention some things from the spoiler for 520. Don't read this if you are trying to be surprised by 520.

What do we know about Tobirama? He was extremely powerful. He was a master of water style and space/time jutsus. He also apparently conceived of the most evil jutsu in the entire series: Edo Tensei, the ability to trap a dead soul into a body by killing a sacrifice. When he become Hokage, Tobirama created the police force to segregate the Uchiha from the rest of the village. Tobirama sacrificed himself during the second great ninja war to save his squad. We never see him die, and none of the characters seem to have seen it either. He was apparently the most powerful ninja alive at the time of his death.

What do we know about Madara? He was an extemely powerful Uchiha who frequently fought Hashirama, because the two of them were the tops of their clans. He apparently died in battle against Hashirama, with many witnesses. But he claims otherwise: Instead of dieing he somehow gained Hashirama's power during the battle and eventually learned Izanagi, Gained the rinnegan to give to Nagato, grew some of Hashirama's cells for the big flower thing, and used it to create a gigantic army of Zetsu clones.

Much later, Orochimaru learns the secrets of Edo Tensei and "perfects" it before being merged with Kabuto. Keep in mind that only Kabuto called in "perfect", and Kabuto is evil. Tobirama would not have called Kabuto's version of Edo Tensei "perfect". In fact, I don't think the two are the same jutsu.

If Tobirama was a good guy, it seems weird that he would have created the most evil jutsu. I think it's pretty unlikely that Tobirama would have ever attempted it or practiced it, because people would get upset if the Hokage were killing sacrifices to test a new Jutsu. That's an evil kind of thing and not something the Hokage would be able to do. Tobirama loved his people, loved his village, sacrificed himself for others, and would not have used something evil like Edo Tensei. He probably wouldn't even have thought about it, at least not the way Orochimaru used it.

Orochimaru on the other hand is evil. He can do evil things like kill people for Edo Tensei. We frequently see him sacrifice the people around him for his personal gain. We frequently see him kill people for experiments, and he would have had no problem doing that for Edo Tensei. Kabuto claims he did many experiments with it.

Let's assume that Tobirama developed a technique that allowed him to communicate with the souls of dead people, and maybe gain their power and learn techniques from those souls, temporarily. This technique would have been very helpful, but it would have been limited because Tobirama didn't want to hurt anybody while doing it. Even in this limited state, Tobirama would have appeared to be the most powerful ninja in the world because he could use the combined powers of other ninja who had already died. Orochimaru would have seen the limitations as "imperfections" and would have been eager to "perfect" the technique. He wouldn't have worried about killing people in his experiments until he found a version that he could use.

Tobirama develops a technique that helps give him power and knowledge. It allows him to use the souls of dead friends to help him protect the village. This is perfectly reasonable, and something a Hokage might do. It is a little dark, but isn't evil and doesn't require sacrifice. Plus, it helps people communicate with their dead loved ones, and bring peace to souls killed in battle. Orochimaru turned it evil, but removed some of the limitations from it.

This assumption is perfectly in line with everything we know about these two characters: Tobirama loves people and forms strong bonds with them which last after death. Orochimaru does not value people, and is willing to sacrifice their lives for his experiments and use their souls as tools to help increase his power.

Now, enter Madara/Toby. This character does not appear to have any EMS techniques like the real Madara was supposed to have. He also was supposed to have died in the Valley of the End, but is still alive. Itachi says he is just a shell of his former self. He now has Izanagi, which appears to require both Uchiha and Senju essence in order to perform it.

What if Madara is an Edo Tensei soul trapped in the living body of Tobirama? What if Madara is a "shell of his former self" because he was created using the "imperfect" form of Edo Tensei that Tobirama created?

Tobirama is in the second ninja war and his team is surrounded. He sends the rest of his team off and prepares to engage 20 ninja by himself. He's fighting and dieing, so he uses one last Jutsu: Edo Tensei. He summons the soul of a powerful warrior into himself so he can give his friends a few more minutes to escape. That powerful warrior is Madara. Madara's soul gives Tobirama more chakra and he can continue the fight, eventually defeating all his enemies.

Tobirama would have used space/time jutsus in the battle, so Madara's soul would have witnessed those and learned them. Tobirama would probably not have used Edo Tensei again, so Madara's soul would not have seen it and would not know it.

Kabuto's Edo Tensei keeps all the abilities of the soul he summons: Itachi still has his MS, Nagato still has his rinnegan, etc. The souls that Kabuto summons are also invincible. Either of these things could change as the limitations in Tobirama's version. Maybe the summoned madara had sharingan but not EMS. Maybe he could live for a long time but was not completely invulnerable

Tobirama uses almost all his chakra and cannot control the soul of Madara Uchiha any more. He dies, and Madara's soul takes over his body. Now we have "Madara" with the body of the Senju and the spirit of the Uchiha, with Sharingan (but not MS), with powerful space/time jutsu like Tobirama had, but limited in power because of the "incomplete" Edo Tensei that Tobirama used. He's probably not indestructable like Kabuto's version, but he has been alive for a very long time without dieing. He is now a shell of his former self who needs to use the power of the Sage of Six paths to make himself whole again. In other words, he needs to create a real body for himself, and move his soul back into a real Uchiha body where he will gain all of his old powers again.

Madara's "real" body could not be in the coffin, because Madara's soul is in Tobirama and cannot be summoned from there. Tobirama could not be in the coffin either, because he cannot be summoned again, because he was sealed by Hiruzen. This theory does not explain who was in that damn coffin.

Tell me what do you think, guys? That theory may best than Obito's theory.

Wow this is a very substantial and complete theory. It is very true that we know very little about the 2nd's use of edo tensei. Of course, we know him as a kind and gentle hokage like the first, but very powerful and capable of defeating many foes. I always thought it was kind of out of place, the 2nd developing edo tensei and all. I think you may be on the right track with your line of logic. I really doubt that the 2nd developed the tech with a living sacrifice in mind for the soul's catalyst, there has to be more to the story.

I really think you are on the right track, this theory would follow the line of reason. Tobimara dies as a result and Madara's soul takes over his body. This would mean the 2nd is eligible for summon by Oro later. Like you said, it would also explain 'the shell of him former self.' It might also explain his name (tobirama = tobi = Madara :eek:).

Honestly when you first started talking about the 2nd in detail I said "Oh oh I got it! Madara is actually the 2nd Hokage gone bad!" There is no way thats true however since the 2nd was revived by Oro.
 
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Zabuza is BACK!!with his demon MODE<haha Zabuza thought he could do what he wanted, you follow the reader RULE!!YOu show how epic you are!Kabuto save the day like always...
 

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did you notice the part where kabuto has anko lied on a seal and on the other side there are seed like things. are those the spores of white zetsu? i think kabuto has planned some big betrayel...
I think that's just a map of the battlefield with his summons marked as circles. (but I could be wrong ofcourse :D)
 

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This chapter was quite good, although it seems a little bit rushed and less..would have been nice if it was more, but okay, it's the same as usual..

I liked it that Zabuza and Haku were "happy" about Naruto's improvement, but i wonder why this isn't freeing their souls? As we know that Edo Tensei can be released with just Talk-no-Jutsu...i wonder myself what's the thing holding their souls in the real world, yet not wanted them to release... i'm excited to see the climax of Edo Tensei now.

Oh by the way, look HERE at the text in the right top corner...

There was also referred "THAT" Jutsu..now i wonder...is it another Lolmaoroflomgipwnyou-Jutsu like some of you guys believe in Naruto's "That Jutsu"?xd
well remembr the 1'st and 2'nd hokage's didnt wanna battle but they were forced..........i think there souls r released when theyve acheived what they wanted in life before they die.
 

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Reading a lot of information, especially information from issue 520 (I've read some of the spoilers), I'm starting to put together a theory about Madara. I'm marking this post as a SPOILER because I mention some things from the spoiler for 520. Don't read this if you are trying to be surprised by 520.

What do we know about Tobirama? He was extremely powerful. He was a master of water style and space/time jutsus. He also apparently conceived of the most evil jutsu in the entire series: Edo Tensei, the ability to trap a dead soul into a body by killing a sacrifice. When he become Hokage, Tobirama created the police force to segregate the Uchiha from the rest of the village. Tobirama sacrificed himself during the second great ninja war to save his squad. We never see him die, and none of the characters seem to have seen it either. He was apparently the most powerful ninja alive at the time of his death.

What do we know about Madara? He was an extemely powerful Uchiha who frequently fought Hashirama, because the two of them were the tops of their clans. He apparently died in battle against Hashirama, with many witnesses. But he claims otherwise: Instead of dieing he somehow gained Hashirama's power during the battle and eventually learned Izanagi, Gained the rinnegan to give to Nagato, grew some of Hashirama's cells for the big flower thing, and used it to create a gigantic army of Zetsu clones.

Much later, Orochimaru learns the secrets of Edo Tensei and "perfects" it before being merged with Kabuto. Keep in mind that only Kabuto called in "perfect", and Kabuto is evil. Tobirama would not have called Kabuto's version of Edo Tensei "perfect". In fact, I don't think the two are the same jutsu.

If Tobirama was a good guy, it seems weird that he would have created the most evil jutsu. I think it's pretty unlikely that Tobirama would have ever attempted it or practiced it, because people would get upset if the Hokage were killing sacrifices to test a new Jutsu. That's an evil kind of thing and not something the Hokage would be able to do. Tobirama loved his people, loved his village, sacrificed himself for others, and would not have used something evil like Edo Tensei. He probably wouldn't even have thought about it, at least not the way Orochimaru used it.

Orochimaru on the other hand is evil. He can do evil things like kill people for Edo Tensei. We frequently see him sacrifice the people around him for his personal gain. We frequently see him kill people for experiments, and he would have had no problem doing that for Edo Tensei. Kabuto claims he did many experiments with it.

Let's assume that Tobirama developed a technique that allowed him to communicate with the souls of dead people, and maybe gain their power and learn techniques from those souls, temporarily. This technique would have been very helpful, but it would have been limited because Tobirama didn't want to hurt anybody while doing it. Even in this limited state, Tobirama would have appeared to be the most powerful ninja in the world because he could use the combined powers of other ninja who had already died. Orochimaru would have seen the limitations as "imperfections" and would have been eager to "perfect" the technique. He wouldn't have worried about killing people in his experiments until he found a version that he could use.

Tobirama develops a technique that helps give him power and knowledge. It allows him to use the souls of dead friends to help him protect the village. This is perfectly reasonable, and something a Hokage might do. It is a little dark, but isn't evil and doesn't require sacrifice. Plus, it helps people communicate with their dead loved ones, and bring peace to souls killed in battle. Orochimaru turned it evil, but removed some of the limitations from it.

This assumption is perfectly in line with everything we know about these two characters: Tobirama loves people and forms strong bonds with them which last after death. Orochimaru does not value people, and is willing to sacrifice their lives for his experiments and use their souls as tools to help increase his power.

Now, enter Madara/Toby. This character does not appear to have any EMS techniques like the real Madara was supposed to have. He also was supposed to have died in the Valley of the End, but is still alive. Itachi says he is just a shell of his former self. He now has Izanagi, which appears to require both Uchiha and Senju essence in order to perform it.

What if Madara is an Edo Tensei soul trapped in the living body of Tobirama? What if Madara is a "shell of his former self" because he was created using the "imperfect" form of Edo Tensei that Tobirama created?

Tobirama is in the second ninja war and his team is surrounded. He sends the rest of his team off and prepares to engage 20 ninja by himself. He's fighting and dieing, so he uses one last Jutsu: Edo Tensei. He summons the soul of a powerful warrior into himself so he can give his friends a few more minutes to escape. That powerful warrior is Madara. Madara's soul gives Tobirama more chakra and he can continue the fight, eventually defeating all his enemies.

Tobirama would have used space/time jutsus in the battle, so Madara's soul would have witnessed those and learned them. Tobirama would probably not have used Edo Tensei again, so Madara's soul would not have seen it and would not know it.

Kabuto's Edo Tensei keeps all the abilities of the soul he summons: Itachi still has his MS, Nagato still has his rinnegan, etc. The souls that Kabuto summons are also invincible. Either of these things could change as the limitations in Tobirama's version. Maybe the summoned madara had sharingan but not EMS. Maybe he could live for a long time but was not completely invulnerable

Tobirama uses almost all his chakra and cannot control the soul of Madara Uchiha any more. He dies, and Madara's soul takes over his body. Now we have "Madara" with the body of the Senju and the spirit of the Uchiha, with Sharingan (but not MS), with powerful space/time jutsu like Tobirama had, but limited in power because of the "incomplete" Edo Tensei that Tobirama used. He's probably not indestructable like Kabuto's version, but he has been alive for a very long time without dieing. He is now a shell of his former self who needs to use the power of the Sage of Six paths to make himself whole again. In other words, he needs to create a real body for himself, and move his soul back into a real Uchiha body where he will gain all of his old powers again.

Madara's "real" body could not be in the coffin, because Madara's soul is in Tobirama and cannot be summoned from there. Tobirama could not be in the coffin either, because he cannot be summoned again, because he was sealed by Hiruzen. This theory does not explain who was in that damn coffin.

Tell me what do you think, guys? That theory may best than Obito's theory.
Very good theory, it actually clears the stuff of things like Madara having the name Tobi. I also thought about it how on earth the 2nd Hokage so good made such an evil technique. Most probably he did made the Edo Tensei but in a different way but it was Oro who twisted it. And really Kabuto never perfected it its just that after merging with Oro's cells Kabutomaru is more powerful than Oro himself and that's why Edo Tensei is more powerful. Also Kabuto extracting Oro's chakra from Anko proves it that the more powerful the ninja the more powerful the Edo Tensei technique. Just imagine what would happen if someone as powerful as Naruto who has "A HUGE AMOUNT" of chakra of his own and then the Kyuubi's used it, then the Edo Tensei would have been way more powerful than the current one.
 

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Tobirama is Dead remember Orochimaru summoned his Dead body

I read it on another site Great point against the 2nd Hokage, try and find an explanation for that
 

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nice pix zapp42823!

yeah, seems anko and yamato had been part of kabuto's plans.
there is no wrong in ending the lives of the two for the shinobi's purpose. but somebody's gotta rescue them somehow...i have a great hunch in shikamaru's case in doing so.

it's been so long we missed "kage mane" in action. we'll see if shikamaru's mettle is better than that of kabuto's.
yup i miss shikamaru's jutsu specially his genius strategy, the assistant general of division 4 huh? mmmm... i think shikamaru will contribute a big role on this war... maybe he is the one who will discover the total weakness of impure world resurrection or this zetsus thing, can't wait to see how he will fight with his sensei asuma...
 
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Ok now we know that the person whose gonna stop edo tensei will be no other than Shikamaru with his shadow binding tech. He can control and manipulate kabuto to do that seals easily. Even Ino and her clansmen could perform their mind switching tech to do that. But i go with Shika :) He always plays a big role in this kind of situation.
Nah man, if this hasn't been said already, it wont work. Hand signs are nothing more than a way to mold chakra. If Shikamaru gets a hold of Kabuto, he can make him weave the signs, but not use the chakra. He also has to make him say release....apparently. Shadow Jutsu's can't control your speech.

Ino would switch bodies with Kabuto, but she doesn't know how to release the Jutsu. Ino can most likely only use jutsus that she knows. It's still not her body, so she probably can't mold the chakra properly.
 

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Nah man, if this hasn't been said already, it wont work. Hand signs are nothing more than a way to mold chakra. If Shikamaru gets a hold of Kabuto, he can make him weave the signs, but not use the chakra. He also has to make him say release....apparently. Shadow Jutsu's can't control your speech.

Ino would switch bodies with Kabuto, but she doesn't know how to release the Jutsu. Ino can most likely only use jutsus that she knows. It's still not her body, so she probably can't mold the chakra properly.
Ya right don't see Kabuto getting defeated that easily. And you are right about Shikarmaru and Ino they won't be able to release the technique. And isn't it obvious guys like Shikamaru or Ino won't do it. It has to be done by any of the other ELITE guys like Naruto, Sasuke or Madara.
 

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Very good theory, it actually clears the stuff of things like Madara having the name Tobi. I also thought about it how on earth the 2nd Hokage so good made such an evil technique. Most probably he did made the Edo Tensei but in a different way but it was Oro who twisted it. And really Kabuto never perfected it its just that after merging with Oro's cells Kabutomaru is more powerful than Oro himself and that's why Edo Tensei is more powerful. Also Kabuto extracting Oro's chakra from Anko proves it that the more powerful the ninja the more powerful the Edo Tensei technique. Just imagine what would happen if someone as powerful as Naruto who has "A HUGE AMOUNT" of chakra of his own and then the Kyuubi's used it, then the Edo Tensei would have been way more powerful than the current one.
man dont start tobi is 2nd kage-..

tobi is madara or a new man....
 

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It is his "demon" spirit, its shown behind him like a monster. It's not something physical or like a tailed beast. Just something that scares people off. Like seeing a real devil. That's why he's called demon of the hidden mist Watch this clip it appears around 1:54 :
Thanks for that explanation and I went and watched that episode (and the rest of the Zabuza fights). This may sound like a dumb question, but was Haku really a girl? He looked like a girl, talked like a girl, and dressed like a girl. He had all this "love" for Zabuza as well. Was he really a girl like that girl in the second Naruto Shippuden movie who was trying to be a boy?
 

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Thanks for that explanation and I went and watched that episode (and the rest of the Zabuza fights). This may sound like a dumb question, but was Haku really a girl? He looked like a girl, talked like a girl, and dressed like a girl. He had all this "love" for Zabuza as well. Was he really a girl like that girl in the second Naruto Shippuden movie who was trying to be a boy?
"He had all this "love" for Zabuza as well"
like narugay is love sasuke
i think haku is shemale...

loving triangle: narugay love sasuke.. sasuke want to escape from HIDDEN PERVERT VILLAGE...
GAARA is love narugay Gaara is jealous :D bcz narugay love sasuke and not gaara... gaara want to kill sasuke...
 
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