[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 510 Discussion/ 511 Predictions

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How old are You ****ing fags, its a stupid Japanese cartoon made for 4 Year olds, Im guessing that 98% of you **** wits Are Virgins and are all living in Mamas basement.
i mean its a blonde fag who jumps around abit, does abit of shitty magic and then lives to be gay another day. Heres my Predictions, you lose and die alone tehe

Sayōnara, Bitches

Lets see your saying we are "fu*kwits" and "Virgins".....yet you have the time to for some reason go to a website about a "blonde fag" SUBSCRIBE to the forum (of a manga which you have said you dont like) and then post a very abusive and unnecessary and ENTIRELY HYPOCRITICAL statement.

Your calling us sad but you either read Naruto and just decided to be a hypocritical fu*ktard or you purposely took time out of your obviously busy day found this website subscribed just to have a go at a bunch of strangers over a message on a forum (brave...) either way your a cowardly TW@...

Anyway SAYONARA dont come back...ya freak.

I loled at his post xd. some people seem to have time for that. I hate subscribing to websites

 

[siyo]

Hmm even though this was an amazing chapter kishi is kinda contradicting himself here...First of all how can madara have the first hokage`s power when it was previoulsy mentioned that madara was a shell of his former self and he solely rely on his eye.Plus he lost the battle against the hokage so how is it even possible for him to absorb his powers.

Madara now knows where the rinnegan is, but since both him and sasuke own EMS i can`t see how they could use the eyes.Can two different set eye techs work on the same person?

konan proved to be akatsuki worthy and a shame she faced the main villain and died before really doing some damage.

finally i wonder if there are still relatives of naruto out there...someone who could perhaps help him with his heritage..

 

[Hammy120290]

Madara is able to pass through solid objects so maybe during his fight with Hashirama he stole part of his DNA/Sould with an unknown jutsu and fused it with his.

And I believe that Rinnegan is meant to used with Sharingan because the SOSP created a tablet that can only be deciphered using the Sharingan - Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan.

He probably lost the battle because he was concentrating on absorbing Hashirama's power and he no doubt had the "moon eyes plan" before he fought Hasirama hence why he said about the winner thinking about the future.

I have a theory that somehow Madara is keeping himself alive or in a physical form by using Izanagi and possibly with Zetsu's help.

 

[theghettoninja]

i dont think you guys understand. the 6th paths aren't diffrent charecter's, there diffrent powers, like: the powers of the uchiha not just madara. the powers of the senju not just the first hokage, the power's of the rinnegan/uzimake not just nagato and naruto, and so on and so on...

 

[siyo]

Madara is able to pass through solid objects so maybe during his fight with Hashirama he stole part of his DNA/Sould with an unknown jutsu and fused it with his.

And I believe that Rinnegan is meant to used with Sharingan because the SOSP created a tablet that can only be deciphered using the Sharingan - Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan.

He probably lost the battle because he was concentrating on absorbing Hashirama's power and he no doubt had the "moon eyes plan" before he fought Hasirama hence why he said about the winner thinking about the future.

I have a theory that somehow Madara is keeping himself alive or in a physical form by using Izanagi and possibly with Zetsu's help.

you bring up some good arguments and i could see madara teleporting and using some secret move to get some dna of the first but still shouldn`t he had come stronger out of it all and not weaker(hence a former shelf of himself)? The comment he made about the future is typically for a man who lost.Madara is a smart guy and i don`t believe he would go half-heartedly into a match to the death against the first. But hey he is still standing and i believe he will be the main villain in the end.Zetsu is not the only surviving member of akatsuki for no reason.He must give Madara different supplies which helped him from aging.

Totally forgot about the tablet thing so you are right about the need for the rinnegan.

 

[incme2002]

If 1st, Madara and Nagato is part of the 3 paths of so6p then how about the 2nd hokage?

 

[silenceofthelambs]

You know what I can only understand half of it all, I certainly 110% do not believe Sasuke has nothing to do with being aan S06P

In my thoughts Madara and the 1st Hokage are together the 2nd S06P, Nagato is the 3rd and I'm not sure how he became that to be honest.

I reckon Madara is so determined for Sasuke to have EMS because Sasuke the only one who is able to and Madara wants his EMS maybe.

To be truthful I just cba to even attempt to think about it all

I am only interested in a few people theories and opinions on it such has (Silenceofthelambs)

This might only be my opinion, but I think many are misinterpreting Madara's words from this chapter. When he said that Nagato was the third path, he wasn't referring to six people that are going to become a physical manifestation of the Sage of the Six Paths; rather, he was talking about abilities.

Madara has the first two paths (the powers of both Uchiha and Senju), and only now has acquired the third out of the sixth path, the Rinnegan. What the other three are remains a question, but if Madara does gain all six paths by the near end of the story, he will then have become the second, true Sage of the Six Paths.

He is trying to create the Sage of the Six Paths (so as to become him), and for that he needs all six pieces of the puzzle (the paths). I don't think it to be six separate people who have one of the pieces to the Sage's existence, but more like six groups. Madara didn't specifically need Hashirama Senju's power to further his own goals, as he could have gotten another Senju's entirely, but he was simply the most convenient person to do so. Likewise, it is not only Madara that has the ability to become the Sage's reincarnation - Sasuke, Itachi, Obito, Fugaku, Mikoto, or any other Uchiha (as well as Senju, or any other person for that matter) could be that person, but only if they acquire the six necessary components to create the machine, so to speak.

While my interpretation certainly may be wrong, this is what I think Madara spoke of in chapter 510.

 

[theghettoninja]

This might only be my opinion, but I think many are misinterpreting Madara's words from this chapter. When he said that Nagato was the third path, he wasn't referring to six people that are going to become a physical manifestation of the Sage of the Six Paths; rather, he was talking about abilities.

Madara has the first two paths (the powers of both Uchiha and Senju), and only now has acquired the third out of the sixth path, the Rinnegan. What the other three are remains a question, but if Madara does gain all six paths by the near end of the story, he will then have become the second, true Sage of the Six Paths.

He is trying to create the Sage of the Six Paths (Madara himself), and for that he needs all six pieces of the puzzle (the paths). I don't think it to be six separate people who have one of the pieces to the Sage's existence, but more like six groups. Madara didn't specifically need Hashirama Senju's power to further his own goals, as he could have gotten another Senju's entirely, but he was simply the most convenient person to do so. Likewise, it is not only Madara that has the ability to become the Sage's reincarnation - Sasuke, Itachi, Obito, Fugaku, Mikoto, or any other Uchiha (as well as Senju) could be that person, but only if they acquire the six necessary components to create the machine, so to speak.

While my interpretation certainly may be wrong, this is what I think Madara spoke of in chapter 510.

Thank you. this is what i've been trying to tell people.

 

[silenceofthelambs]

I agree......I probably can't come up with very good theories......but I truly respect silence of the lambs ideas....while I may not always agree with him and he comes under fire for some of his opionons they are well thought out and make a lot of sense...(wish there were more people on the forum like him....though this forum is great

Thank you very much for your words. They are deeply appreciated! Don't worry about not being able to come up with theories, the more you think about the story, the more likely a shocking idea will come to you, and then you won't be able to stop yourself from creating a thread out of it.

 

[MadaraIsPureNoob]

It is prolly people closest to Sage of the Six paths. Sage of the six paths had all six paths powers within him, when he died, it got passed on to his sons, and shattered in the descendants of the two sons.

Madara is Uchiha, descendant of the older brother.
Hashirama is Senju, descendant of the younger brother.
Nagato is Uzumaki, descendant of the younger brother.
Naruto is Uzumaki too, descendant of the younger brother.
Sasuke is Uchiha, descendant of the older brother.

Maybe Itachi was one of the six paths as well, had the power of the Sage.
And since Sasuke got Itachis eyes, he's prolly 4th and 5th of the Six paths.

And Naruto is the 6th of the Six paths, 6th Hokage, 3rd Jinchuriki of the Kyuubi, 3rd Sage of Toads (? Based on the speculation of Yondaime Hokage being also a sage)

3 Paths from the Older brothers side (Uchiha), 3 Paths from younger brothers side (Senju/Uzumaki)

Madaras true goal is prolly to get all of the six paths power, and become the reincarnation of the Sage of the Six Paths.

The sixth has to be konahamaru, that guy is a beast he's gana be better than naruto lol and u know what it's never said his last name he's probally and uzimaki too

 

[MadaraIsPureNoob]

konan prepared 6 billion explosive tags....that's over nine thouuuuuuuuuusand!

So, that's what she's been doing the whole manga....

lol over nine thouuuuuuuuuuusand

 

[MadaraIsPureNoob]

I unno but you know you guys kabuto was able to threaten Madra... Who knows what well happen he probaly has something im not really sure but something were not looking at enough POssible someothing so beasty it well pwn everyone

 

[Jacob 666]

Ok either it is powerss in which case it is
Sharingon
Willpower
Rinnigan
Chakra Control
Reality
Body

Or it is people in which case it is
Harashima - Senju
Madara - Uchiha
Nagato - Uzimaki
Itachi/Tsunade - Uchiha/Senju
Sasuke - Uchiha
Naruto - Uzimaki

 

[Warlock Tigerwolf]

This might only be my opinion, but I think many are misinterpreting Madara's words from this chapter. When he said that Nagato was the third path, he wasn't referring to six people that are going to become a physical manifestation of the Sage of the Six Paths; rather, he was talking about abilities.

Madara has the first two paths (the powers of both Uchiha and Senju), and only now has acquired the third out of the sixth path, the Rinnegan. What the other three are remains a question, but if Madara does gain all six paths by the near end of the story, he will then have become the second, true Sage of the Six Paths.

He is trying to create the Sage of the Six Paths (so as to become him), and for that he needs all six pieces of the puzzle (the paths). I don't think it to be six separate people who have one of the pieces to the Sage's existence, but more like six groups. Madara didn't specifically need Hashirama Senju's power to further his own goals, as he could have gotten another Senju's entirely, but he was simply the most convenient person to do so. Likewise, it is not only Madara that has the ability to become the Sage's reincarnation - Sasuke, Itachi, Obito, Fugaku, Mikoto, or any other Uchiha (as well as Senju) could be that person, but only if they acquire the six necessary components to create the machine, so to speak.

While my interpretation certainly may be wrong, this is what I think Madara spoke of in chapter 510.

Thank you for putting this so well, many of us have been trying to explain it all day and yet the misinterpretations persist.

the only thing I disagree with you on, is that the person must be senju or uchiha originally in order to become a Sage of the six paths.

The Senju, and Uchiha power is key, but one need not be a senju or uchiha in order to start the process. Of course I'm not sure anyone except madara would actually attempt it. But I'm sure Naruto is well on his way.

 

[silenceofthelambs]

for me im just still waiting the post of silenceofthelambs and yondaimeminato for their post im always convince for the explanation of this two dudes.... right now it is clear the fact that madara uchiha never lost a war to hashirama, minato, and konan...... it is clear that his perception i mean intelligence pawns all even sasuke uchiha.........

That's apparently what it is looking like. But I must tell you, saying that "Madara Uchiha never lost a war to Hashirama, Minato, and Konan" will elicit irritation from some other users, even if it is the truth. The reason why I say this is because I too had the same theory, that Madara planned his defeats to further his own agenda, yet many users criticized it heavily for being much too biased, among other things.

Even still, I do think Madara to a certain degree, purposefully lost because he knew "focus[ing] on the future" was more important than the immediate situation at hand, and because of this managed to gain the First Hokage's powers, also acquiring the ability to use Izanagi.

I also think that Madara had another reason for unleashing the Nine-Tailed Fox on Konoha sixteen years ago, though what it is I do not know. It just seems to me that the destruction of Konoha (which is something many characters wanted to do) was not his true and ulterior motive for appearing in Konoha at the time of Naruto's birth.

It's an interesting thought you have, so let's see if it will be confirmed in the later manga chapters.

 

[silenceofthelambs]

Thank you for putting this so well, many of us have been trying to explain it all day and yet the misinterpretations persist.

the only thing I disagree with you on, is that the person must be senju or uchiha originally in order to become a Sage of the six paths.

The Senju, and Uchiha power is key, but one need not be a senju or uchiha in order to start the process. Of course I'm not sure anyone except madara would actually attempt it. But I'm sure Naruto is well on his way.

I changed the part that had the incorrect phrasing of words, for my thoughts at that sentence did not exactly correlate to what I was writing, so I must say thank you for catching that.

It seems that things are coming full swing in the series, so I hope Madara reveals more about the Sage of the Six Paths, and what role the Uzumaki clan (which seems to be the most important clan right up there with Uchiha and Senju in these matters) plays in all this. Very interesting, this is.

 

[leenox]

i juz want to say nice chap.....

ps hate madara won.....U_U

 

[mjtuvok]

To find out who or what the paths are, maybe we need to identify some of the symbols in the image below? We can also look at the things that Madara is after and the creations of the SO6P. I think the 4th path has something to do with Sasuke's EMS. Madara obviously wanted him to use Itachi's eye. 5th path being all of the tailed-beasts' power and 6th could have something to do with Naruto.

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Maybe this is what Madara's eye(s) will look like once he obtains all 6 paths.

And to reply to mjtuvok. I think Yin and Yang symbolizes Senju and Uchiha bloodlines. Yin being Uchiha (dark side) and Yang being Senju (light side). The symbol represents the endless cycle of balance. both the Yin and Yang is needed to maintain the balance and they need each other to exist. The symbol also has several other meanings; natural cycle of life, opposites, etc.

What I think Madara means is that when both Yin (Uchiha) and Yang (Senju) fuse, the technique Izanagi was born along with everything else that SO6P created. In order to have the power of both Yin and Yang, one needs to have both Uchiha and Senju power. I think Naruto is also capable of this as he still has the unknown gift from Itachi.

Konan was? a great character and she put up a good fight against Madara, however, almost everyone expected Madara to pull the "haha It was all an illusion" card because that's what happens most of the time when one is going up against a Sharingan user. It's getting old now imo. I also think Madara went blind in the eye he used Izanagi with and he will probably replace the eye he lost the light in with another spare. Guessing this is why he was after Shisui's eye?

Hey, thanks for the insight on the ying yang portion/ but iIF its all about balancing the forces of good & evil...then surely Naruto & Sauske are the embodiment of that now, would you agree??

To me they are surely opposites, light & dark....

 

[tricky411]

The sixth has to be konahamaru, that guy is a beast he's gana be better than naruto lol and u know what it's never said his last name he's probally and uzimaki too

Konahamaru is the 3rd Hokage's grandchild, Asuma's son.

 

[mjtuvok]

The spoilers and some of the chapter have me a bit confused... First of all this whole thing about Madara's warping through dimensions and solidifying and whatever else... Second he says his Izanagi is perfect or completer unlike Danzou's, but when Madara used Izanagi to get out of Konan's jutsue his LEFT EYE closed... He said it himself... Using Izanagi will cause you to loose the light and power and one of your eyes, after that his left side is black out thus illustrating that he lost his sharingan in his left eye... So what makes his Izinagi so perfect or complete unlike Danzou's. Maybe he meant he didnt look all deform like Danzou who had a face on his shoulder and had sharingans all over his body... M


adara im gussing can also use wood element like the 1st, but when will he make his move... Im guessing that by completer he meant that he is able to control and not look deform like Danzou.

Well you have to remember Danzo's use of the first hokage wood element ability was only due to it being grafted onto him by OROCHIMARU as part of his experiments, which is why it was incomplete and also look like a deformed body part and also why he lost control of it.... He was neither Uchiha nor Senju more like a ninja-frankenstein!