[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 510 Discussion/ 511 Predictions

[vlive6]

Wait a minute , could you please explain your theory better ?
Wasn't Nagato THE reincarnation of SO6P ? Where do these paths come from ?if you say that hashirama and others are paths then who is controlling them ?
I think the first SO6P was rikudo , second i dont know and third was Nagato .

I agree more with this theory abt how the 6 paths are being refered too..makes more sense because Negato was the reincarnation he also controlled the six paths. No... he may have not been as powerfull as the original and thats why he needed the chakara sticks to channel his energy, but he was the real thing. Also I dont see how but I think Naruto will gain the rinnengan .. esp now that we know Negato was Uzumaki??? Naruto will be the next SO6P only makes sense. So when Madara implants those eyes he will have all the powers of the SO6P ... and only Naruto will be able to stop him.. madaras Powers will come from implants and stealing techniques but Naruto will Naturally aquire it
just like he aquired the necklace. The more powerfull he becomes. I dont kno.. Just my thought let me know what you think...

 

[mjtuvok]

Thank you for putting this so well, many of us have been trying to explain it all day and yet the misinterpretations persist.

the only thing I disagree with you on, is that the person must be senju or uchiha originally in order to become a Sage of the six paths.

The Senju, and Uchiha power is key, but one need not be a senju or uchiha in order to start the process. Of course I'm not sure anyone except madara would actually attempt it. But I'm sure Naruto is well on his way.

Well hold on a moment...thinking back to when others have attempted to mix these bloodlines or powers into someone who was not a senju or uchiha, things didnt turn out well. So far there has only been one Ninja where that was done and that was DANZO... so while a non senju or uchiha may be able to house those powers it is very difficult for them perhaps impossible to actually master them. As an example although Danzo was equipped with a bunch of sharigan eyes and even though he learned how to use them, he was still no match for a true UCHIHA, namely sauske. And he was not able to control the first hokages( senju) power through the battle and it almost killed him if you recall.

My conclusion based on what we know and have seen so far is that only someone of senju or uchiha can expect to mix the two and be successful.

If there was someone else who successfully did it then I MUST HAVE missed it....Let me know if i did.

 

[mjtuvok]

konan will die..madara is using izangi. As soon as he releases the technique she would be dead according to madara himself.

Reading everyones thread, people are still posting the same questions. Why did madara's izangi close if he has the ems? N the other question is why is nagato the 3rd path..

geez, r ppl not reading before there posting? Some of these questions have already been answered.
madara's izangi usage causes his sharigan eye to seal shut losing its sight.

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the sharigan hes using isn't his ems, but a implanted version.

Madara's izangi is complete because he can use it for any duration. Danzo's was incomplete because he couldn't do so.

Nagato is the 3rd path because he has the rinnegan

now that we know this please stop posting the same questions over n over im sure a few people are slapping themselves :flaw: For answering the same questions a bajillion times o.o

bingo....people usually dont read more that a page or two if that! Before posting...

 

[vlive6]

Great chapter. It answered several questions, but also opened up many more. So it turns out that Madara never planned to fight Hashirama Senju for control of Konoha, he only wanted to battle him to gain his powers in order use Izanagi. Madara was right, though, that the winner of that battle was the one who chose to focus on the future - despite losing, he gained a perfect Izanagi as compensation.

Now that Madara will soon get the Rinnegan, I assume he might try to be the next summoner of Gedo Mazo (as he did say it would need another pawn), for two beasts still remain to be captured, and without them the Moon's Eye Plan does not work. Many theories still remain, but this chapter sure cleared many mysteries about the Sage of the Six Paths, Izanagi, and Hashirama and Madara's titanic clash.

I dont think Madara went through all of that just to gain Izanagi just to waist it on someone like Konan today.. yea he could probably change out eyes buti think theres got to be more benefits from that fight

 

[toro]

so does that mean kakashi can do izagani too plus he would have the EMS sharrigan as well but who was the 2nd SO6 paths.

plus how did he get the 1st power of the senju too or even knew about it the only place he could have learned about it was from the temple tablet which you need all the eyes to do that so that means madara knew the 2nd SO6 paths before his fight with the 1st hokage

 

[Sage of the Force]

This might only be my opinion, but I think many are misinterpreting Madara's words from this chapter. When he said that Nagato was the third path, he wasn't referring to six people that are going to become a physical manifestation of the Sage of the Six Paths; rather, he was talking about abilities.

Madara has the first two paths (the powers of both Uchiha and Senju), and only now has acquired the third out of the sixth path, the Rinnegan. What the other three are remains a question, but if Madara does gain all six paths by the near end of the story, he will then have become the second, true Sage of the Six Paths.

He is trying to create the Sage of the Six Paths (so as to become him), and for that he needs all six pieces of the puzzle (the paths). I don't think it to be six separate people who have one of the pieces to the Sage's existence, but more like six groups. Madara didn't specifically need Hashirama Senju's power to further his own goals, as he could have gotten another Senju's entirely, but he was simply the most convenient person to do so. Likewise, it is not only Madara that has the ability to become the Sage's reincarnation - Sasuke, Itachi, Obito, Fugaku, Mikoto, or any other Uchiha (as well as Senju, or any other person for that matter) could be that person, but only if they acquire the six necessary components to create the machine, so to speak.

While my interpretation certainly may be wrong, this is what I think Madara spoke of in chapter 510.

Thank you silence of the lambs it makes sense now.....I thought it was people but now I see it's probably abilities........sorry to those I wasn't really listening to....I guess we have to wait and see what kishi reveals next....if the six paths are abilities....then kishi probably has a few more clans up his sleeve

 

[silenceofthelambs]

I dont think Madara went through all of that just to gain Izanagi just to waist it on someone like Konan today.. yea he could probably change out eyes buti think theres got to be more benefits from that fight

He has Sharingan eyes in his hidden laboratory, so even if he were to waste an eye using Izanagi, he could easily replace it. Besides, there might have been more benefits to Madara from his battle with the First Hokage, despite being defeated and weakened, as you have stated, though we'll have to see what that exactly is.

 

[uzumakiclanrules]

Anyone know when 511 spoilers will be out???

 

[House]

Anyone know when 511 spoilers will be out???

probably on tuesday.

 

[blackdice]

So, Madara tells Nagato's body, "You are the third of the sixth paths..." Is that just bad translation? How can something the third of the sixth? Is he "the third of the six paths.."? or "a third of the sixth paths"? isn't a third of a sixth an eighteenth?

anybody got an alternate translation or explanation? this makes my head hurt.

the first thing that came to my mind was nagato's rinnegan being 1/3 of the Rikkudo Sennin's power. The power of the Uchiha and the power of the Senju being the remaining 2/3.... which we know Madara already has.

 

[Inception]

So, Madara tells Nagato's body, "You are the third of the sixth paths..." Is that just bad translation? How can something the third of the sixth? Is he "the third of the six paths.."? or "a third of the sixth paths"? isn't a third of a sixth an eighteenth?

anybody got an alternate translation or explanation? this makes my head hurt.

the first thing that came to my mind was nagato's rinnegan being 1/3 of the Rikkudo Sennin's power. The power of the Uchiha and the power of the Senju being the remaining 2/3.... which we know Madara already has.

Your question has been answered numerous times. Nagato's Rinnegan is one of the 6 powers of SO6P. The other 2 being Madara and Senju (1st Hokage). He said Nagato is the 3rd path because Madara already has 2 paths and acquiring Nagato's Rinnegan next would make him the 3rd path.

 

[shadpow]

Well I had a different thought...

Uchiha: 1st Path
Senju: 2nd Path
rinnegan Eyes: 3rd path
Gedo Mazo 4th path
Tailed Beast 1-8: 5th Path
Kyubi: 6th and Final path... However when naruto removed Kyubis chakra He got the sixt path (6th necklace and maybe those bodymarks)..

Also a speculation: Madara addressed Nagato as Uzumaki... maybe he was confused between Naruto and Nagato...
From the fight of 4th Hokage.. B'ze if madara was the same who attacked and Released 9 tails Yodaime called out naruto's name and as Kushina was Uzumaki... Madara knew he was the one.
But When madara said "this is my 2nd Meeting and you remind me of Senju Hashimira" He cold have been Very certain abt naruto being Uzumaki.. Maybe he thought they gave him the Name UZUMAKI to deceive him...
So, Now Madara thought that nagato is Naruto an Uzumaki so he provided him with Rinnegan..

... lso a speculation: 4th Hokage could be Senju: So Naruto Has
Senju+Uzumaki+9 Tails (6th path)

 

[blackdice]

Your question has been answered numerous times. Nagato's Rinnegan is one of the 6 powers of SO6P. The other 2 being Madara and Senju (1st Hokage). He said Nagato is the 3rd path because Madara already has 2 paths and acquiring Nagato's Rinnegan next would make him the 3rd path.

Nagato('s Rinnegan) is the THIRD of the SIX paths of the Rikkudo Senin's power.Thanks.

Does "third of the sixth paths" make sense to you tho? not tryin to be a grammar nazi but its important with this kinda stuff.

 

[Marimo Swordsman]

I have a theory about the SOF6P, what if each "path" isn't a person but the techniques passed down through the blood lines. Say
1.Wood Element
2.Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan(including Susanoo and Amaretsu)
3.Rinnegan
4.Sage Mode
5.Inzagi
6.Jubbi
All controlled by one person, i dunno i was thinking it wasn't the person but the powers that he needs to be "complete" and become the SOF6P's! just a theory and he probably go the information from the tablet in Konoha under the Uchiha temple. My guess is that he knows what like 4 of the paths are and when he reads the tablet with the rinnegan he will find out what the rest are. Or i could be full of it guess we will find out soon enough

 

[blackdice]

Your question has been answered numerous times. Nagato's Rinnegan is one of the 6 powers of SO6P. The other 2 being Madara and Senju (1st Hokage). He said Nagato is the 3rd path because Madara already has 2 paths and acquiring Nagato's Rinnegan next would make him the 3rd path.

I have a theory about the SOF6P, what if each "path" isn't a person but the techniques passed down through the blood lines. Say
1.Wood Element
2.Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan(including Susanoo and Amaretsu)
3.Rinnegan
4.Sage Mode
5.Inzagi
6.Jubbi
All controlled by one person, i dunno i was thinking it wasn't the person but the powers that he needs to be "complete" and become the SOF6P's! just a theory and he probably go the information from the tablet in Konoha under the Uchiha temple. My guess is that he knows what like 4 of the paths are and when he reads the tablet with the rinnegan he will find out what the rest are. Or i could be full of it guess we will find out soon enough

Good point about him having to read the rest with the rinnegan. That might be true. Well either way its going to be a while until he gets all six I'm sure. Hope kishi doesn't drag it out too long.

 

[csouvik41]

It is prolly people closest to Sage of the Six paths. Sage of the six paths had all six paths powers within him, when he died, it got passed on to his sons, and shattered in the descendants of the two sons.

Madara is Uchiha, descendant of the older brother.
Hashirama is Senju, descendant of the younger brother.
Nagato is Uzumaki, descendant of the younger brother.
Naruto is Uzumaki too, descendant of the younger brother.
Sasuke is Uchiha, descendant of the older brother.

Maybe Itachi was one of the six paths as well, had the power of the Sage.
And since Sasuke got Itachis eyes, he's prolly 4th and 5th of the Six paths.

And Naruto is the 6th of the Six paths, 6th Hokage, 3rd Jinchuriki of the Kyuubi, 3rd Sage of Toads (? Based on the speculation of Yondaime Hokage being also a sage)

3 Paths from the Older brothers side (Uchiha), 3 Paths from younger brothers side (Senju/Uzumaki)

Madaras true goal is prolly to get all of the six paths power, and become the reincarnation of the Sage of the Six Paths.

in my opinion,
sharingan is the first path
senju's spiritual power is the second
rinnegan is the third
10 tailed is the 4th
sasuke (or maybe bayakugan) is the 5th
and naruto has to be the sixth

on another thought... naruto is a uzumaki, he has itachi's gift.....& if i assume that 4th is related to senju, then naruto is already equal to madara. only his powetr is yet to be awakened...

 

[Sage of the Force]

Nagato('s Rinnegan) is the THIRD of the SIX paths of the Rikkudo Senin's power.Thanks.

Does "third of the sixth paths" make sense to you tho? not tryin to be a grammar nazi but its important with this kinda stuff.

i think its like an order thing...for example 6 paths means 1stpath, 2ndpath, 3rdpath, 4thpath, 5thpath, and 6thpath.......so like out of the 6 paths nagato is the third.........hope this helps

 

[stylezish]

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Check out the eye in the backround.

Looks like Rinnenegan, mixed with Sharingan that we've all seen before.

But in the middle is a yin yang symbol, and with the rinnenegan rings around it, it instantly made me think of Neji's 64 divine strikes technique. once I thought about it a few more seconds, every byakugan technique involves that symbol.

I'm not stating what it means, just kind of pointing it out and awaiting the ridicule

Also, in all the talk of who could hold the other paths, nobody has mentioned the tearjutsu specialist (sakura).

she is a medical ninja, yang, who was supposedly trained as a genjutsu type (yin). So she embodies both chakra naturesat once.

Okay, from reading your post.. I can relate you to a few things here:

The sage of the 6 path's eye consist of: Rinnegan, Sharingan, and Byakugan correct? But first, let's take a look at the body:

Somebody talked about Hashirama having the "body of the sage" I would say that is incorrect. The sage's body consist of: "strength of will and physical energy" I believe Hashirama only has the "will of the sage" as to what Madara refers Naruto to when they met.

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Naruto has a complete body of the sage as seen on here:

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Which means, Naruto has the "strength of will and physical energy"

Now for the descended from the younger of the two sons of the Sage of the Six Paths:

Senju and Uchiha right? Look here, there's more:

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Uzumaki is distant relatives to the Senju: Basically, Naruto is half Uzumaki (Mom) and half Senju? (Dad)

Uchiha clan's Sharingan was descended from the Byakugan (or so they say): Who the hell do we know that has all the eye tech? None.

So, should we say the reason why Madara is collecting these eyes is because he wanted to "complete" the eye by combining sharingan (EMS) / Rinnegan / (and possibly the Byakugan) which equals to:

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Who knows? Madara could be doing what Nagato was doing - in some dark room controlling his spirt through another body. This is why when you damage him, you don't see any blood. (Perhaps Zetzu plays a big part here too)

I don't believe Madara has his EMS anymore. That is why he is using Sasuke to develop a perfect EMS.

And then he can steals them... and turn to Cell... and the story goes from Naruto to DRAGONBALL Z (I'm just kidding on that part ;^D)

 

[IronFang]

OK this is wat i think personally (please forgive me for my spelling=D)

1st Senju (younger Brother)
2nd Uchiha (Older Brother)
3rd Juibi (all beasts)
4th Rineigan
5th or 6th could be the items the sage used like the necklace (naruto has on him) or staff or sword (i think itachi had and gave to naruto as the gift)

What u think

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

Holly crap awesome chapter and Nagato was an Uzumaki??? Also now we know that may be Hashirama was stronger than Madara but Madara's main intention was to gain the powers of the Senju but how on earth did he got the powers of the Senju well he didn't use any wood elemental techs so may be he can. Also this shows the fact that why Madara collected all those Sharingans. And Nagato the 3rd Sage so that means the real SO6P then Madara and then Nagato was the 3rd guy. So that also means that Madara gave the Senju and Uchiha powers to Nagato.