[Predictions] Naruto Manga 500 Discussion and 501 Predictions

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Clearly an amazing chapter!

Did anyone notice the seal on the Uzumaki Mito's forehead, it's the same as the seal that Tsunade uses??

Since naruto is related to the Senju, this means that Tsunade is also related to Naruto, as in she really could me his grandmother... or great Aunt or something!!!

Madara sucks!
 

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Re: Naruto Manga 500 is out

Indeed Madara is strong but i say the ANBU are weak. Even Fu and Torune could fight him for sometime. Its that madara took them down like they are academy student.

Looks like Madara didn't fee like fighting with Minato, eh? It would've been awesome if they had fight without the Nine Tails in between.
Well, Madara took down all ANBU at this point like academy students, because that is what they are in Madara's eyes; he has so much experience that the ninja of this generation appear as kids to him. Also, it is not Madara's plan right now to fight Minato; he wants the Nine-Tails that is sealed in Kushina, and if Minato makes any suspicious movements, he knows that it will be the end of his son, Naruto. Quite a dangerous position Madara has caught the three in. Two of the family members will die, as we know.
 

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Uchihas and Hyugas are distant blood relatives too! That means Sasuke is both Uchiha and Hyuga and Hinate is Hyuga and Uchiha! Can't wait till Hinata suddenly appears with EMS and kills Sasuke for attempting to kill Naruto and kills Naruto for not thanking her after she nearly gave up her life to save him!

See how dumb your assumptions are....? -.-
Since when were they relatives?
 

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According to Madara, the entire Uchiha clan (excluding Sasuke) was in on the plot to overthrow the village's government, so Mikoto definitely could've been some kind of informant for the Uchiha because as shown in the chapter, Kushina clearly trusted her; being Fugaku's wife, the ringleader of the whole scheme, only adds on to this possibility. Have you noticed that while Kushina was happily talking away, Mikoto was only saying the least amount possible? Wouldn't you be happy for a friend for the fact that they are about to give birth? Mikoto seemed a little too calm back there; her behavior borders on hinky or something excessively stoic.
 

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Wow O.O lot's of information:

  • We know now more about the former Whirlpool Country and and the Uzumaki clan
  • We know now about (and have seen) both the first and third hokage's wife
  • That Sasuke was named after the third's father
  • Where the spiral symbol comes from on the Konoha uniforms
  • That Sasuke's mother and Kushina were friends
  • That at that exact time Madara was part of the Mist Village (maybe just left) due to the mask he's wearing
  • That Madara knew exactly where and when he should be for the Fox which is quite disturbing
  • The link between the Uzumaki and the Senju (which both proves and invalidates the statement that Naruto is a Senju)

Even some of the oldest fundaments of Naruto, which have never been changed our even questioned, started to move and got a completely other perspective (for instance the spiral symbol)
Good job summing up all the information in a list format just like I did a page ago. That said, I agree, it is curious how this "masked man" knew where the childbirth would take place. Well I suppose he could have just been expecting it would happen since he seems to be good at lurking about Konoha. So maybe he just tracked them out of the village. But being ready at that specific time is a bit farfetched without some sort of informant. Maybe Mikoto or if not her, maybe Mikoto told an Uchiha friend (i.e. her husband) who just happened to be in league with Madara. More information always brings more questions.


Moving this over from the 499 thread.

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Originally Posted by irkool_budd
WHAT THE!!! I never thought twas the UZUMAKI who originated the seals! and they are blood ralated to the SENJU!!! WHEWWWWW!!! Never saw that coming!

ps... pfff...its so! sigh

Blood related doesn't necessarily mean Senju though, it does mean they are, either another clan descended from the So6P's or one that developed out of marriage to the Senju/Hyuga/Uchiha or some other clan that came from the Sage's sons (there really could be an infinite number of clans that are blood related over a long enough period of time).


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debate is over "naruto is a senju after all" beside its time for tobi to be unmasked now we know that 1st have wife and she did give birth "who is first hokage's son/daughter"

The debate won't be over about Naruto being Senju until it is made clear that Minato is a direct Senju descendent (which is definitely hinted at by the comparison to the first hokage and his Uzumaki wife) because what was made clear is that the Uzumaki are blood related to the Senju but so are the Hyuga and the Uchiha if you want to get technical. More than likely the Senju and Uzumaki are both clans that came from the So6P's youngest son like the Uchiha and Hyuga are both clans that came from the older son. In either case Naruto most likely received a double dose of the So6P's youngest son's DNA by having both parents blood related to him.

Kishi really likes to work in groups of two with his story so I think it is most likely that the Senju and Uzumaki are much the same as the Hyuga and Uchiha with one clan coming from the other (at least that was one of the theories, that the Uchiha came from the Hyuga at some point in the past). If that is the case I think it is likely that the Uzumaki are the more ancient clan and that the Senju came from them (the reason I think that is because of the Uzumaki's long lives a trait shared by the So6P's). I wish we would have gotten a little bit more info on Hashirama's children because I really would like that direct connection to Tsunade to be clear (was her father or her mother Senju for instance and who did they hook up with to have her). I'm pretty sure we will eventually (hopefully next chapter) get to find out who Minato's parents were (I'm still rooting for Tsunade and Jiraiya) which will give us the final pieces of Naruto's lineage although it won't explain why he isn't a Namikaze unless Minato and Kushina weren't married yet or maybe they wanted to continue the Uzumaki clans name because of its direct link to the So6P's.

In any case quite the twist seems to be developing with Kushina's friend being Sasuke's mother and it appears she was the only one that knew Kushina was on her way to have Naruto. Did she intentionally sell her out? Was Sasuke's father in on it? Is he Madara? So many questions that aren't likely to get answered anytime soon it's driving me nuts. Also why when they talk about the incident 16 years ago do they all just call him the masked man and not once say Madara. I'm really starting to think that Tobi isn't Madara at all and it was Madara's corpse in the coffin Kabuto had. Not to mention what is the connection to the thirds father being named Sasuke, was he Uchiha or was Mikoto maybe his relation (daughter perhaps)? I'm thinking there is an important link there or it wouldn't have been included.

I was hoping for a double or extended chapter but this was awesome all the same, let's just hope it keeps going next week and that we finally get to see Sasuke's new eye's (I'm still betting on Rinnegan)!
That's a good theory about the Uzumaki and Senju being similar to Hyuuga and Uchiha relation. Very interesting.

I want to point at that Naruto was named Uzumaki and not Namikaze most likely because they did not want Naruto associated with being Yondaime's son. It would just bring problems for him within the village. People like Madara, however, who must have known about the Uzumaki clan saw his name as a very telltale sign of who he was... They probably didn't have much time to think about it anyway.

About the Sasuke thing being named after Sandaime's father... Sarutobi Sasuke was a famous shinobi in Japanese children's stories so it was just another connection to real world Japan just like the royal treasures being in Itachi's possession and whatnot. I think Uchiha Sasuke was named after Sarutobi Sasuke because Mikoto thought Sarutobi Sasuke was a great ninja to be named after and that's all. I doubt there's anything else about that. And both Naruto and Sasuke in some way have their names taken from a story (Naruto from Jiraiya's story, Sasuke from a children's story in real world Japan).
 

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This was so god damn amazing! Absolute worth waiting for this. I can`t understand how some peoples complains? You must be joking right?
I mean, this is Naruto at it`s best. If you don`t enjoy it now, how would you ever enjoy it? It almost doesn`t get better than this, 6 out of 5!

Anyway, so much information in one chapter. It`s almost like i need to read it again to see if i missed some of it:D

So here`s some analyse as i go through it again...

Eddy village.. A little strange name if you ask me, but still cool. I wonder who the kage there was seeing him beside Harishma.

And also, distant blood relatives doesn`t have to be too much distant right? Isn`t a cousin almost a distant relative:rolleyes:

Maybe the first Hokage and the whirlpool kage was cousins?:eek:

And Naruto is blessed with long life! Wonder how long? Like 100 years?
That would explain why Madara still lives. Maybe the Uchiha is blessed with long life too?

Damn i got so much to sum up. The first and his wife. Senju + Uzumaki. You know what that means right? Tsunade is both a Senju and a Uzumaki!:eek:

And Kushina said that the Jinchuuriki must be filled with love before it is housed. Maybe that`s how she and KB could deal with it better that Naruto and Gaara? Because they were filled with love first and not being alone?:p

Also, one unimportant thing i noted. The first Hokage died before his wife(Mito was alive when Sarutobi was Hokage seeing her talking to Kushina when she was young, meaning Sarutobi must have grown up).
The wife of the 3rd. died before him. And Minato the 4th and Kusina died at the same day(if the battle between Minato and 9 tails didn`t drag on to the next). Each possibility has happened. Husband dies before Wife, Wife dies before Husband, and Wife and Husband dies at the same day, coincident?

Also. I wonder why Sarutobi wasn`t there to help too? If he had, maybe this would never had happened?

And about Mikoto. What did she mean by her last sentence: "I`ll be."?
Maybe she was about to say something about where she would be at some point or something. Probably nothing spesial.

And to the last scene. Did anyone notice all the water outside the cave Minato and co. where? And all the wird sounds that masked guy made?
And that the Anbu guys was way down in the ground like they where being sucked in and how the masked guy went through the wall?:confused: I`m thinking. Maybe Madara sent Zetsu instead?

You know how Zetsu is able to mix with the ground.. And/or maybe he made a copy of Madara/Tobi(Would see his plant head pointing up in the air behind the mask if it was himself or maybe he managed to change form?) that is still activ?
That would hint to something some on the forum suggested.

That the real Madara hasn`t shown himself yet(controlling things in the background, Madara`s son instead of Madara, changed body, not really Madara or something) and that Zetsu has made a clone of him. That could explain why he never fights himself, so that he can keep the clone alive for example, and maybe his maximum is 2 clones at a time(taking the Kisame clone into the theory).

And finally. It looks like he`s coming out from the wall.
So he enteres through the wall and he comes out from the wall(Zetsu anyone?).

That`s all i got for now, hope i made it clear and understandable enough:p
 
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Good job summing up all the information in a list format just like I did a page ago. That said, I agree, it is curious how this "masked man" knew where the childbirth would take place. Well I suppose he could have just been expecting it would happen since he seems to be good at lurking about Konoha. So maybe he just tracked them out of the village. But being ready at that specific time is a bit farfetched without some sort of informant. Maybe Mikoto or if not her, maybe Mikoto told an Uchiha friend (i.e. her husband) who just happened to be in league with Madara. More information always brings more questions.




That's a good theory about the Uzumaki and Senju being similar to Hyuuga and Uchiha relation. Very interesting.

I want to point at that Naruto was named Uzumaki and not Namikaze most likely because they did not want Naruto associated with being Yondaime's son. It would just bring problems for him within the village. People like Madara, however, who must have known about the Uzumaki clan saw his name as a very telltale sign of who he was... They probably didn't have much time to think about it anyway.

About the Sasuke thing being named after Sandaime's father... Sarutobi Sasuke was a famous shinobi in Japanese children's stories so it was just another connection to real world Japan just like the royal treasures being in Itachi's possession and whatnot. I think Uchiha Sasuke was named after Sarutobi Sasuke because Mikoto thought Sarutobi Sasuke was a great ninja to be named after and that's all. I doubt there's anything else about that. And both Naruto and Sasuke in some way have their names taken from a story (Naruto from Jiraiya's story, Sasuke from a children's story in real world Japan).
Good analysis and I also think that Sasuke being named after Sarutobi's father has got nothing to do with anything. On the other hand Madara must have got information about this from one of the insiders but the thing is we haven't seen this lady Mikoto or anyone like this ever in the manga so far. And the two advisers seems to be very loyal to Konoha. That being the case I think Madara figured it out himself. Kushina being the Jinchuurki as she was caught by some ninjas who did this for money. So that means Madara was watching Kushina all that time and when she got pregnant he got the news from any of the top insiders remember Madara could have simply used his special genjutsus on any of those top few guys who knew about it. And he kept on getting all the information when the time came he struck. And people saying that Madara is coward well I will not say that what he did was act of bravery but he did the smartest thing in order to get his work done in the most easiest manner even now Madara only fights when he only needs to.
 

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Its confirmed Naruto isn't a senju but is still related to the SO6P.

Great chapter although its missing something I can't put my hand on. It had the purpose of the Uzuamki clan, which were big and important,and powerful. Showed that the great Minato the 4th hokage was still even human, the way he was scared was funny.

It could be me but Tobi looked off. He is bigger, more built now, he is taller too. Why was this Tobi shorter and less built, he seemed younger. He looked like a kid.

They weren't parents for more than an hour, they didn't even hold Naruto, Tobi is a #%^$. Taking a baby hostage, If he was so powerful why not take out the 4th hokage. He was alone with no back up and he wasn't prepared to fight. I lost respect for Tobi he's a sniveling second rate Uchiha. I hope Minato took something valuable from him beside the kyuubi maybe his arms or something that left him even more weakened. Also A great Uchiha like Madara would never take a baby a cower in fear in front of a hokage.
 

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This was so god damn amazing! Absolute worth waiting for this. I can`t understand how some peoples complains? You must be joking right?
I mean, this is Naruto at it`s best. If you don`t enjoy it now, how would you ever enjoy it? It almost doesn`t get better than this, 6 out of 5!

Anyway, so much information in one chapter. It`s almost like i need to read it again to see if i missed some of it:D

So here`s some analyse as i go through it again...

Eddy village.. A little strange name if you ask me, but still cool. I wonder who the kage there was seeing him beside Harishma.

And also, distant blood relatives doesn`t have to be too much distant right? Isn`t a cousin almost a distant relative:rolleyes:

Maybe the first Hokage and the whirlpool kage was cousins?:eek:

And Naruto is blessed with long life! Wonder how long? Like 100 years?
That would explain why Madara still lives. Maybe the Uchiha is blessed with long life too?

Damn i got so much to sum up. The first and his wife. Senju + Uzumaki. You know what that means right? Tsunade is both a Senju and a Uzumaki!:eek:

And Kushina said that the Jinchuuriki must be filled with love before it is housed. Maybe that`s how she and KB could deal with it better that Naruto and Gaara? Because they were filled with love first and not being alone?:p

Also, one unimportant thing i noted. The first Hokage died before his wife(Mito was alive when Sarutobi was Hokage seeing her talking to Kushina when she was young, meaning Sarutobi must have grown up).
The wife of the 3rd. died before him. And Minato the 4th and Kusina died at the same day(if the battle between Minato and 9 tails didn`t drag on to the next). Each possibility has happened. Husband dies before Wife, Wife dies before Husband, and Wife and Husband dies at the same day, coincident?

Also. I wonder why Sarutobi wasn`t there to help too? If he had, maybe this would never had happened?

And about Mikoto. What did she mean by her last sentence: "I`ll be."?
Maybe she was about to say something about where she would be at some point or something. Probably nothing spesial.

And to the last scene. Did anyone notice all the water outside the cave Minato and co. where? And all the wird sounds that masked guy made?
And that the Anbu guys was way down in the ground like they where being sucked in and how the masked guy went through the wall?:confused: I`m thinking. Maybe Madara sent Zetsu instead?

You know how Zetsu is able to mix with the ground.. And/or maybe he made a copy of Madara/Tobi(Would see his plant head pointing up in the air behind the mask if it was himself or maybe he managed to change form?) that is still activ?
That would hint to something some on the forum suggested.

That the real Madara hasn`t shown himself yet(controlling things in the background, Madara`s son instead of Madara, changed body, not really Madara or something) and that Zetsu has made a clone of him. That could explain why he never fights himself, so that he can keep the clone alive for example, and maybe his maximum is 2 clones at a time(taking the Kisame clone into the theory).

And finally. It looks like he`s coming out from the wall.
So he enteres through the wall and he comes out from the wall(Zetsu anyone?).

That`s all i got for now, hope i made it clear and understandable enough:p
I agree with most part except the Zetsu part I think that the real mastermind is still hidden and we haven't seen him or the real mastermind is actually Madara but Zetsu going there I don't think that Madara would have done such a risky thing as his entire plan was based on getting the Kyuubi out
 

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Its confirmed Naruto isn't a senju but is still related to the SO6P.

Great chapter although its missing something I can't put my hand on. It had the purpose of the Uzuamki clan, which were big and important,and powerful. Showed that the great Minato the 4th hokage was still even human, the way he was scared was funny.

It could be me but Tobi looked off. He is bigger, more built now, he is taller too. Why was this Tobi shorter and less built, he seemed younger. He looked like a kid.

They weren't parents for more than an hour, they didn't even hold Naruto, Tobi is a #%^$. Taking a baby hostage, If he was so powerful why not take out the 4th hokage. He was alone with no back up and he wasn't prepared to fight. I lost respect for Tobi he's a sniveling second rate Uchiha. I hope Minato took something valuable from him beside the kyuubi maybe his arms or something that left him even more weakened. Also A great Uchiha like Madara would never take a baby a cower in fear in front of a hokage.
Dude the thing is we actually don't know much about Madara may be he is like this taking any opportunity he gets
 

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personally i like the chapter. and for all those who think because minato said that the man in the mask saw through everything he did does not mean he was stronger. Just very smart and analytic like Shikamaru he could see through other ninjas jutsu as well. The Sharingan can help with that so i feel we should stop trying to downgrade the fouth. Good chapter the Uchiha really look petty and weak to me now but i understand. Weak but i understand hope he get to see more of the fouth
 

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hmm....alot of things to think about in this awsome chapter.

1. if the first is married to an uzamaki, does is mean he married a relative?

2. remember when madara was telling naruto in the land of iron that even though this is the second time he met him he can see the the first in him? i dont think madara would have lied there and then. but if this reall madara back then, then wouldnt he have said the third time????????? unless tobi isnt really madara.

3. now with everyone questioning the "short" madara. dont u remember that wen he was young, he wasnt particullar "tall".
 

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Re: Naruto Manga 500 is out

After the Nine-Tails' Attack on Konoha, Konoha began to suspect that an Uchiha was behind the attack. The Uchiha were relocated to a corner of the village so that they could be more easily monitored. The Uchiha interpreted this as confirmation of what Madara had warned them of years earlier, and began to plan overthrowing the village. One Uchiha, Itachi, disagreed with the coup d'?tat, and informed Konoha's leadership of what the Uchiha were up to. The Third Hokage, Hiruzen Sarutobi, tried to negotiate for a more peaceful approach. This failed, and to prevent an uprising that would create another war, Itachi was ordered to wipe out the Uchiha. See it was only after the Kyuubi attacked when Konoha suspected them of coup but it was only after Konoha started to suspect them when the Uchiha started preparing for 1.
I agree with everything you're saying, but didn't Madara help Itachi kill everyone? Why would he do that if he was the one sparking the fire for the coup?
 

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first off, The end of this chapter gives me another reason to hate Madara :rag: . I mean, cmon... using the fourth's own newborn son against him? lame. Is he afraid Minato's gonna beat the crap out of him? I can understand why he did it though.

Second, It's cool to see how things were during Naruto's birth
I honestly think Madara used naruto as a hostage not as much because he was scared of minato but more of because he didn't have the time to waste time fighting :flaw: minato. He was about to seal the 9 tails again he didn't have forever to take control of it

But anyways think about it O.O WOAH MADARA A BABY KIDNAPPER!!! THATS FUNNY
 

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u have no idea why was he ordered to annihilate Uchiha clan dont ya? :|

dont make those statments befoe you fully understand whats going on :D
LOLOL funny thing is, I do know why. The Uchiha clan was planning a coup, but the Konoha elders had no proof even though Itachi was giving them the correct info. When Madara attacked Kushina and released the fox, Minato managed to stop it, but the elders took this as a way to force blame on the Uchiha's saying it was their fault even though Minato and Kushina knew it was Madara. The elders wanted to eliminate the Uchiha's. The fox incident gave them a reason too when asked questions. But the true reason was because of the coup. If the fox incidient never occured, then they could've ordered Itachi to attack, and when asked questions if the truth was discovered, then they can say it was cause the Uchihas were planning a coup with no information, or they could've set the Uchihas up or wait for another reason to come.

The point is, the elders always wanted the Uchihas gone cause of the coup they were planning, Madara had nothing to do with the feelings the elders had. Madara DID provide an easy false accusation against the Uchihas though, so he made it easier on the elders. The Uchihas would've been eliminated one way or another, sooooooo, what's that phrase I'm looking for? Oh yea... GOOD FIGHT!
 

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Madara will never be beaten at this rate. I think the only one who will beable to fight him will be Sasuke. Naruto might have a good chance, but he dosn't weild the sharingan and has a strong disadvantage.
 

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I personally think that wasn't Madara. It seemed more like it was Zetsu. He was walking through walls rather then teleporting, which is what Zetsu does, and the ANBU, the way they were defeated being pulled into the ground? Madara might have ordered Zetsu to make a copy of himself and had him go in. I'm sure the last thing Madara would want is to be stuck in a cave when Minato attacks and the Kyubi is free when his priority is only the Kyubi.
 

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next chapter

kushina n minato wastes pages n finally decide kushina to sacrifice herself since they cant have both their lives n naruto

sasukes new eyes 501 last page


i thought naruto was older than sasuke cuz he kept failin grades n he endded up in sasukes class

danzo wanted sharingan + uchiha were plannin a coup d'etat + fear of kyuubi controlled of uchiha
dats y they still had the uchiha massacred even wen they knew tobi released kyuubi
 
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