[Predictions] Naruto Manga 499 Discussion and 500 Predictions
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While hachibi has been stuck for a while in random jinchuriki and pots, kyubi had time to learn lots of things. It would tease naruto with his valuable knowledge about the uchiha, and tell him what he knows in the end, possibly when it's too late.
It will have no choice but to cooperate, eventually: "you can either help me and get to see the outside world or stay in this cage until you die:flaw:". And why would they kyubi refuse to cooperate in that situation?
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although in the present circumstances, setting the 7 biju free would be the best thing he could do. Imagine madara going back at his hideout and finding the statue empty. he'd be left to collect them without deidara's help:crazy:He has always been a moron. :y
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well despite what others will say, right now Naruto is NOT a perfect jin ... He has only taken the chakara from 9T .. Bee on the other hand IS a perfect jin, as he has full cooperation from the 8T ... so there will be more work for Naruto in the future...
LorDRaishin
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ya like we said .. Naruto still needs to train and be-friend the kyuubi ... but knwing naruto that wont b so tuff...
I have a theory ok we know that Madara wants Sasuke & Naruto to fight i have been thinking why don't Madara just use his time/space jutsu to just take Naruto will since this chapter i don't think he just wants them to fight but he needs them to because if Naruto has the body of the SO6 & Sasuke has the eyes then maby when they fight it will break some kind of seal maby like a last resort plan that the SO6 left behind if all 9 tailed beasts where collected maby it takes the power of the SO6 path to free it & Sasuke & Naruto have both half's of his power,
WhiteRabbit
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That actually makes some real good sense. Perhaps Madara isn't just trying to do Mooneyes but is in fact trying to put the ten tales back together body and all. Which means he would have to take the body from the moon not just collect all the beasts in a statue and call it a day. It would be reasonable to assume that the So6P's had a method to get the body back when he sealed it there just like he left a method (readable fully only by a Rinnegan user) to put all the tailed beasts chakra back together. Perhaps it requires both halves of his lineage (body and eyes) to complete. Or maybe Mooneyes will actually work but only well enough to push the Kage's and Naruto to destroy the moon to break it (releasing the ten tails body).
Or
What if Madara is setting everything up for Sasuke and Naruto to create the second coming of the So6P so he can become him. What I mean is maybe Madara is secretly manipulating way more than we suspect from behind the scenes and has not been honest at all about his goals. The whole Mooneyes plan could just be a way of getting the Kage's to push Naruto's training harder (without the threat of Mooneyes do any of you think Bee would have been put together with Naruto?) to awaken the Sages body while his manipulation of Sasuke is to produce the Rinnegan with the end goal of putting the Rinnegan into Naruto so that Madara can use the same jutsu he used to take control of Obito's body (similar to Oro's method of extending his life). Yes I know lots of theory there without any real proof but bare with me.
Madara has had a hand in all the important events that have lead to both Sasuke and Naruto becoming what they are right now in the story. He had a hand in the Uchiha massacre, he had a hand in Kushina and Minato's sealing of the fox in Naruto, he has been involved in both of their reasons for pushing the limits of training and developing new abilities (he caused Sasuke to hate Itachi and he sent Pain to wipe out Konoha) and he is the major threat that could reunite them in the end rather than just having them kill each other. What if Madara has been planning this all along hidden right in plain sight. Kishi is too good at surprising us because he always gives the clues but masks them so well that it is hard to decipher there true meaning. It would only really make sense for him to be doing this if he had the ability to take control or transfer himself into another person like Oro which is why I mentioned Obito. It isn't that farfetched that Madara could have taken control of Obito and used the time space jutsu to get out from under that rock, there are after all a lot of similarities between them which can be found all over these boards. In any case I have a new revised theory.
Naruto and Sasuke master their individual halves of the So6P.
They fight, Naruto wins over Sasuke back to the light (just as Madara planned.)
They combine to fight the ten tails but in order to win Sasuke has to complete the reawakening of the Sage by giving his eyes to Naruto.
Naruto becomes the Avatar err So6p
absorbing the ten tails.Madara takes control of him and rules the world as a GOD! or Naruto beats him and all is sunshine and rainbows.
Also I wanted to include a spoiler:
Madara is actually Iruka!:flaw:
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Sennin Jinchuuriki
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Well never thought of it but it may also be right we just have to wait to figure out
ok reply to the ppl who want sasuke to give his eyes or hinatas to naruto
well doubt hinata would be the one although every1 knows she would
sasukes eyes i believe is not the rinnegan even though his is the most powerful eyes
i think wen he give it to naruto naruto will purify his eyes n will turn into a rinnegan
cuz naruto seems to have the ability to separate any negative energy away from to positive
well doubt hinata would be the one although every1 knows she would
sasukes eyes i believe is not the rinnegan even though his is the most powerful eyes
i think wen he give it to naruto naruto will purify his eyes n will turn into a rinnegan
cuz naruto seems to have the ability to separate any negative energy away from to positive
Well though out but I dough Naruto will receive Sasuke's eyes unless like kakashi he loses both which is unlikely and Tobi will be just as surprised when Naruto beats Sasuke and turn him to the dark side.That actually makes some real good sense. Perhaps Madara isn't just trying to do Mooneyes but is in fact trying to put the ten tales back together body and all. Which means he would have to take the body from the moon not just collect all the beasts in a statue and call it a day. It would be reasonable to assume that the So6P's had a method to get the body back when he sealed it there just like he left a method (readable fully only by a Rinnegan user) to put all the tailed beasts chakra back together. Perhaps it requires both halves of his lineage (body and eyes) to complete. Or maybe Mooneyes will actually work but only well enough to push the Kage's and Naruto to destroy the moon to break it (releasing the ten tails body).
Or
What if Madara is setting everything up for Sasuke and Naruto to create the second coming of the So6P so he can become him. What I mean is maybe Madara is secretly manipulating way more than we suspect from behind the scenes and has not been honest at all about his goals. The whole Mooneyes plan could just be a way of getting the Kage's to push Naruto's training harder (without the threat of Mooneyes do any of you think Bee would have been put together with Naruto?) to awaken the Sages body while his manipulation of Sasuke is to produce the Rinnegan with the end goal of putting the Rinnegan into Naruto so that Madara can use the same jutsu he used to take control of Obito's body (similar to Oro's method of extending his life). Yes I know lots of theory there without any real proof but bare with me.
Madara has had a hand in all the important events that have lead to both Sasuke and Naruto becoming what they are right now in the story. He had a hand in the Uchiha massacre, he had a hand in Kushina and Minato's sealing of the fox in Naruto, he has been involved in both of their reasons for pushing the limits of training and developing new abilities (he caused Sasuke to hate Itachi and he sent Pain to wipe out Konoha) and he is the major threat that could reunite them in the end rather than just having them kill each other. What if Madara has been planning this all along hidden right in plain sight. Kishi is too good at surprising us because he always gives the clues but masks them so well that it is hard to decipher there true meaning. It would only really make sense for him to be doing this if he had the ability to take control or transfer himself into another person like Oro which is why I mentioned Obito. It isn't that farfetched that Madara could have taken control of Obito and used the time space jutsu to get out from under that rock, there are after all a lot of similarities between them which can be found all over these boards. In any case I have a new revised theory.
Naruto and Sasuke master their individual halves of the So6P.
They fight, Naruto wins over Sasuke back to the light (just as Madara planned.)
They combine to fight the ten tails but in order to win Sasuke has to complete the reawakening of the Sage by giving his eyes to Naruto.
Naruto becomes the Avatar err So6p
Madara takes control of him and rules the world as a GOD! or Naruto beats him and all is sunshine and rainbows.
Also I wanted to include a spoiler:
Madara is actually Iruka!:flaw:
Lastly Tobi being Iruka seriously we all know he's Danzo got dam people and their crack pot Tobi theories when mine is the best.
hehehe...tried to search it on the manga where kakashi used all four, i agree it was only on the anime, i can only 2 he can use, lightning and earth... but i believe he also assimilated obito's element affinity...
Kakashi Uses lightning, Earth, Water (remember the water dragon against Zabuza?) and Fire (remember that at the begining of shippuuden he used it against Sakura and Naruto?) and he also uses Genjutsu. The only element he is not yet seen using is wind.
I'm betting that if kishimoto read these speculations, he'd regret ever naming Obito and Tobi like that. Obito has nothing to do with madara. Why, of all the people in the world, would madara use obito's body? There were plenty of uchihas, obito was left with no eyes after he was crushed, he died before kakashi's eyes (almost).That actually makes some real good sense. Perhaps Madara isn't just trying to do Mooneyes but is in fact trying to put the ten tales back together body and all. Which means he would have to take the body from the moon not just collect all the beasts in a statue and call it a day. It would be reasonable to assume that the So6P's had a method to get the body back when he sealed it there just like he left a method (readable fully only by a Rinnegan user) to put all the tailed beasts chakra back together. Perhaps it requires both halves of his lineage (body and eyes) to complete. Or maybe Mooneyes will actually work but only well enough to push the Kage's and Naruto to destroy the moon to break it (releasing the ten tails body).
Or
What if Madara is setting everything up for Sasuke and Naruto to create the second coming of the So6P so he can become him. What I mean is maybe Madara is secretly manipulating way more than we suspect from behind the scenes and has not been honest at all about his goals. The whole Mooneyes plan could just be a way of getting the Kage's to push Naruto's training harder (without the threat of Mooneyes do any of you think Bee would have been put together with Naruto?) to awaken the Sages body while his manipulation of Sasuke is to produce the Rinnegan with the end goal of putting the Rinnegan into Naruto so that Madara can use the same jutsu he used to take control of Obito's body (similar to Oro's method of extending his life). Yes I know lots of theory there without any real proof but bare with me.
Madara has had a hand in all the important events that have lead to both Sasuke and Naruto becoming what they are right now in the story. He had a hand in the Uchiha massacre, he had a hand in Kushina and Minato's sealing of the fox in Naruto, he has been involved in both of their reasons for pushing the limits of training and developing new abilities (he caused Sasuke to hate Itachi and he sent Pain to wipe out Konoha) and he is the major threat that could reunite them in the end rather than just having them kill each other. What if Madara has been planning this all along hidden right in plain sight. Kishi is too good at surprising us because he always gives the clues but masks them so well that it is hard to decipher there true meaning. It would only really make sense for him to be doing this if he had the ability to take control or transfer himself into another person like Oro which is why I mentioned Obito. It isn't that farfetched that Madara could have taken control of Obito and used the time space jutsu to get out from under that rock, there are after all a lot of similarities between them which can be found all over these boards. In any case I have a new revised theory.
Naruto and Sasuke master their individual halves of the So6P.
They fight, Naruto wins over Sasuke back to the light (just as Madara planned.)
They combine to fight the ten tails but in order to win Sasuke has to complete the reawakening of the Sage by giving his eyes to Naruto.
Naruto becomes the Avatar err So6p
Madara takes control of him and rules the world as a GOD! or Naruto beats him and all is sunshine and rainbows.
Also I wanted to include a spoiler:
Madara is actually Iruka!:flaw:
As for sasuke gaining the rinnegan through some magical means, I can't think of any reason why that would happen. If madara had a spare rinnegan, he'd implant it in his left eye socket, not sasuke. And he would never try to make naruto more powerful. That's common sense: you don't give all-powerful weapons to the enemy. And naruto did not inherit any special power from Senju because
1) he probably isn't one, for reasons that I will not go over again mainly because it's hard to convince people about that
2) he already has 2 unknown powers/techniques that are said to be very potent. He's not a power/technique collector.
There's enough potential to make an epic fight between naruto and sasuke without overcomplicating things.
And naruto is not in madara's plans. That is because he sent pain to capture him. And only through a series of very unlikely events did naruto defeat him. Madara couldn't have predicted all that. No one could have. And if naruto had been captured, he would have almost certainly died. If Madara wanted naruto, he wouldn't have sacrificed Pain. (who is known to be key in using that statue)
As for hiding some more things, he could very well do that, but his known plans are already too complicated to be bogus.
I don't think there's too much to the connection between naruto and the so6p. There might be a few details, probably explaining previous mysteries, but with all these complex predictions that we have hardly anyone would understand the plot.
Narutofan123457
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Okay, here is my prediction for the next chapter:
Chapter 500- The Truth
Naruto: You were the former Jinchuuriki of the 9 tails?
Kusina: Yes. You see, I had very special chakra, as you well know. I was the only potential person who could have the ability to control a bijuu.
Naruto: But if you had the ability to control the 9 tails, then why did the incident happen 16 years ago?
Kushina: Just be patient! I am getting to that. You see, I didn't exactly move willingly to Konoha. I was traded. My home country needed protection in fear of the larger countries in the world, and Konoha wanted a jinchuuriki. The elders of Konoha feared that other nations, like Kumogakure, were creating a perfect jinchuuriki with the 8 tails... and they wanted to be able to compete with that. Konoha needed to have a stronger bijuu to make Kumogakure stand in fear... that bijuu was the 9 tails, and it was sealed into me.
Naruto: So then.... it wasn't even your choice? You were just traded away and tested on like a lab rat?
Kushina: Naruto, Konoha has a dark past... back then the elders would do anything to ensure the safety of Konoha. So yes, they gave me the 9 tails, and I grew up in Konoha. Not many people knew... I mean, they like, thought I was special somehow, but that's it. Only the elders, and the 3rd Hokage knew. Or, at least that's what I thought.
Naruto: Who else knew?
Kushina: Somehow Kumogakure caught wind of it... I still don't know who could have leaked the information, but that doesn't matter. When Minato saved me, we fell in love. When he became the Hokage, I told him everything about the 9 tails.
Naruto: So, Minato knew everything?
Kushina: Yes. That's when things got ugly. The Uchiha clan had begun planning a coup de tout, and some of the elders were desperate to stop it. They had no evidence that could allow them to attack the Uchihas, except the word of Itachi... I am sure you met him.
Naruto: Itachi...... Sasuke's brother.
Kushina: Correct. Danzo in particular was eager to attack the Uchiha, but the 3rd Hokage, Minato, and some of the elders refused to allow the attack. That's when Danzo took matters into his own hands.
Naruto: Wait? He didn't! He couldn't have!
Kushina: I am afraid so. He got information from Itachi about the whearabouts of the masked man, madara uchiha. Madara wanted revenge on the Hidden Leaf, but also on the uchiha clan. Danzo gave him the key to my kyuubi seal. Madara found me and unlocked it, and I immediately lost control.
Naruto: Wh-what? What happened after that?
Kushina: Madara was supposed to control the kyuubi with his Eternal Mangakyou Sharingan, but he saw the attack as the perfect opportunity for his revenge. He let the Kyuubi run wild, destroying the village, and shaming Danzo. Danzo was forced to hide in the shadows and control a new group called root. But that is besides the point. Minato realized what had been done... he realized the only way to stop it was to give the kyuubi to the one other person who may inherit my power...
Naruto: Me. He sealed it into me.
Kushina: Yes...... (flashback to the kyuubi)
(The Kyuubi is running wild, trambling groups of shinobi. Suddenly Minato appears on top of Gamabunta.)
Minato: Forgive me Kushina! Forgive me..... Naruto. SEALING JUTSU! (Returns to Kushina and Naruto)
Kushina: Minato sealed me into you, along with the kyuubi. He had no other choice.
Naruto: So then.....
Kushina: In the end, Danzo got what he wanted. They completely blamed the incident on Madara, and were able to obliterate the Uchiha clan.
Naruto: No wonder Sasuke wants revenge on Konoha... Why didn't Minato stop this all if he knew the truth?
Kushina: (looks sad) Naruto... Minato died in the process of sealing you. He gave his last ounce of chakra to ensure the seal never be broken, and he entrusted the key into Lord Jiraiya...
Naruto: But the elders knew! They could have stopped the massacre!
Kushina: Naruto.... I already told you Konoha had some very dark days. The elders would do anything to ensure Konoha's safety, even if it meant killing their own people. The kyuubi was the excuse they needed. The 3rd tried to stop them but.... it was too late.
Naruto: So your death.... Dad's death.... Me being the Kyuubi's host.... Sasuke turning evil.... the Uchiha being wiped out.... IT WAS ALL BECAUSE OF THE ELDERS?!?
Kushina: Naruto, Konoha is coming back into the light. I... I know it's hard to forgive them, but they were trying to protect the village.
Naruto: NO! They were protecting themselves!
Kushina: I'm sorry Naruto... I know that it's hard for you, but...
Naruto: No, I'm sorry for yelling mom. It's just that all this time...
Kushina: Naruto, Sasuke only knows what Madara wants him to. He doesn't know that Madara was the real cause behind this. He doesn't know the real truth.
Naruto: Then there's hope. Sasuke.... I'll bring you back! Sasuke.... (Here the page flashes to Sasuke's face, and his new Eternal Mangakyou Sharingan!)
Sasuke's revenge burns in his new eyes! What is the power of the Eternal Mangakyou Sharingan?
END-
PLEASE COMMENT!
Chapter 500- The Truth
Naruto: You were the former Jinchuuriki of the 9 tails?
Kusina: Yes. You see, I had very special chakra, as you well know. I was the only potential person who could have the ability to control a bijuu.
Naruto: But if you had the ability to control the 9 tails, then why did the incident happen 16 years ago?
Kushina: Just be patient! I am getting to that. You see, I didn't exactly move willingly to Konoha. I was traded. My home country needed protection in fear of the larger countries in the world, and Konoha wanted a jinchuuriki. The elders of Konoha feared that other nations, like Kumogakure, were creating a perfect jinchuuriki with the 8 tails... and they wanted to be able to compete with that. Konoha needed to have a stronger bijuu to make Kumogakure stand in fear... that bijuu was the 9 tails, and it was sealed into me.
Naruto: So then.... it wasn't even your choice? You were just traded away and tested on like a lab rat?
Kushina: Naruto, Konoha has a dark past... back then the elders would do anything to ensure the safety of Konoha. So yes, they gave me the 9 tails, and I grew up in Konoha. Not many people knew... I mean, they like, thought I was special somehow, but that's it. Only the elders, and the 3rd Hokage knew. Or, at least that's what I thought.
Naruto: Who else knew?
Kushina: Somehow Kumogakure caught wind of it... I still don't know who could have leaked the information, but that doesn't matter. When Minato saved me, we fell in love. When he became the Hokage, I told him everything about the 9 tails.
Naruto: So, Minato knew everything?
Kushina: Yes. That's when things got ugly. The Uchiha clan had begun planning a coup de tout, and some of the elders were desperate to stop it. They had no evidence that could allow them to attack the Uchihas, except the word of Itachi... I am sure you met him.
Naruto: Itachi...... Sasuke's brother.
Kushina: Correct. Danzo in particular was eager to attack the Uchiha, but the 3rd Hokage, Minato, and some of the elders refused to allow the attack. That's when Danzo took matters into his own hands.
Naruto: Wait? He didn't! He couldn't have!
Kushina: I am afraid so. He got information from Itachi about the whearabouts of the masked man, madara uchiha. Madara wanted revenge on the Hidden Leaf, but also on the uchiha clan. Danzo gave him the key to my kyuubi seal. Madara found me and unlocked it, and I immediately lost control.
Naruto: Wh-what? What happened after that?
Kushina: Madara was supposed to control the kyuubi with his Eternal Mangakyou Sharingan, but he saw the attack as the perfect opportunity for his revenge. He let the Kyuubi run wild, destroying the village, and shaming Danzo. Danzo was forced to hide in the shadows and control a new group called root. But that is besides the point. Minato realized what had been done... he realized the only way to stop it was to give the kyuubi to the one other person who may inherit my power...
Naruto: Me. He sealed it into me.
Kushina: Yes...... (flashback to the kyuubi)
(The Kyuubi is running wild, trambling groups of shinobi. Suddenly Minato appears on top of Gamabunta.)
Minato: Forgive me Kushina! Forgive me..... Naruto. SEALING JUTSU! (Returns to Kushina and Naruto)
Kushina: Minato sealed me into you, along with the kyuubi. He had no other choice.
Naruto: So then.....
Kushina: In the end, Danzo got what he wanted. They completely blamed the incident on Madara, and were able to obliterate the Uchiha clan.
Naruto: No wonder Sasuke wants revenge on Konoha... Why didn't Minato stop this all if he knew the truth?
Kushina: (looks sad) Naruto... Minato died in the process of sealing you. He gave his last ounce of chakra to ensure the seal never be broken, and he entrusted the key into Lord Jiraiya...
Naruto: But the elders knew! They could have stopped the massacre!
Kushina: Naruto.... I already told you Konoha had some very dark days. The elders would do anything to ensure Konoha's safety, even if it meant killing their own people. The kyuubi was the excuse they needed. The 3rd tried to stop them but.... it was too late.
Naruto: So your death.... Dad's death.... Me being the Kyuubi's host.... Sasuke turning evil.... the Uchiha being wiped out.... IT WAS ALL BECAUSE OF THE ELDERS?!?
Kushina: Naruto, Konoha is coming back into the light. I... I know it's hard to forgive them, but they were trying to protect the village.
Naruto: NO! They were protecting themselves!
Kushina: I'm sorry Naruto... I know that it's hard for you, but...
Naruto: No, I'm sorry for yelling mom. It's just that all this time...
Kushina: Naruto, Sasuke only knows what Madara wants him to. He doesn't know that Madara was the real cause behind this. He doesn't know the real truth.
Naruto: Then there's hope. Sasuke.... I'll bring you back! Sasuke.... (Here the page flashes to Sasuke's face, and his new Eternal Mangakyou Sharingan!)
Sasuke's revenge burns in his new eyes! What is the power of the Eternal Mangakyou Sharingan?
END-
PLEASE COMMENT!
Madara doesn't want the Jubi assembled again. He knows he wouldn't be able to control it. He just wants the chakra, so that he can use it as a weapon. Or, maybe, to regain his former self he needs that much chakra.
As for the whole naruto/sasuke's eye exchange...PLEASE!!!! As if naruto would accept sasuke's eyes... he is completly against agression and that is like one of the most violent acts he could "do to a friend".
Rinnegan is Rinnegan... a random kekkei genkai dojustu that just happened to exist in the Sage of Six Paths and then in Nagato. But who knows if anyone else had it?
As for the sharingan/byakugan/rinnegan whole thing...They're individual dojutsu. You cannot espect one to evolve from the other. Even if the Byakugan and the Sharingan are related, it must have to do with the whole Yin and Yang parts of chakra. Yin must bring Sharingan and Yang the Byakugan. When a person is born with the "eyes heritage trait" of the sage, the nature of yin and yang of it's chakra must awaken or a sharingan or a byakugan. Since all uchiha have an inclination towards agression and war and fighting, genjutsu, and the "dark". The hyuga seem very peacefull, just, honorable, and seem to have strong bonds with they're family. They're whole fighting style is more "passive".
But hey...what do I know right?
As for the whole naruto/sasuke's eye exchange...PLEASE!!!! As if naruto would accept sasuke's eyes... he is completly against agression and that is like one of the most violent acts he could "do to a friend".
Rinnegan is Rinnegan... a random kekkei genkai dojustu that just happened to exist in the Sage of Six Paths and then in Nagato. But who knows if anyone else had it?
As for the sharingan/byakugan/rinnegan whole thing...They're individual dojutsu. You cannot espect one to evolve from the other. Even if the Byakugan and the Sharingan are related, it must have to do with the whole Yin and Yang parts of chakra. Yin must bring Sharingan and Yang the Byakugan. When a person is born with the "eyes heritage trait" of the sage, the nature of yin and yang of it's chakra must awaken or a sharingan or a byakugan. Since all uchiha have an inclination towards agression and war and fighting, genjutsu, and the "dark". The hyuga seem very peacefull, just, honorable, and seem to have strong bonds with they're family. They're whole fighting style is more "passive".
But hey...what do I know right?
Narutofan123457
Member
exactly ... look at Gai and Lee ... Saying something like everyone is either Senju or Uchiha is ludicrous .. Thats basically saying S6P is the father of all men, which means that there was some serious inbreeding going on ...
and if I were an Oscar Meyer wiener ....
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