[Predictions] Naruto Manga 499 Discussion and 500 Predictions

[uhIpooped]

Something I was just thinking about now that it is clear Naruto has the So6P's body. I have been saying for a while that I think he will eventually be a second coming of the sage but my previous theory was that Sasuke would get the Rinnegan (which we should know soon if Madara already hooked that up) and end up giving them to Naruto once he turns back to good when they fight. But what if Hinata is the one to make the sacrifice and give Naruto her Byakugan which then upgrade to the Rinnegan. It was said before that the Byakugan are actually the more pure form of the sages eyes that the Sharingan evolved from so wouldn't it make sense that they would be able to mutate into the Rinnegan?


This is how I think the end of Naruto will play out. Madara will get the Eight tails and the other half of the Nine tails (it has been said that only half of the Fox's chakra was sealed in Naruto so he could still have his half.) Sasuke and Naruto will fight and Itachi's gift will tip the scales so Naruto wins, either by bringing Sasuke back to the light or by killing him. Madara won't be able to control the Ten tails and it will go berserk. If Sasuke gets the Rinnegan he will then give them to Naruto to save the world, if not I think Hinata will give him her Byakugan which will then mutate into Rinnegan (maybe that is the key, Byakugan in the sages body create Rinnegan.) Naruto will save the world.


Also something a lot of people don't seem to be taking into consideration. The Sages sons did not instantly become the Uchiha and Senju, that happened down the road. If it was true that the Byakugan were the next dojutsu to evolve out of the Sages lineage then either his son had them or he had Rinnegan and somewhere down the line his children or grandchildren etc... ended up with Byakugan which then further on became Sharingan. It is true the Uchiha and Senju became the most powerful of his descendants but the Hyuga are also a part of the same line the Uchiha came from so it wouldn't be a stretch to think the Uzuzmaki are from the same line as the Senju without being Senju specifically. Maybe the Hyuga and the Uzumaki are in fact the clans produced by the sages sons and the Uchiha and Senju spawned from them.

Just a thought.

I was thinking something similar, about the Byakugan ... BUT what if Minato had someone with a Byakugan read the tablet (they should be able to) and this is how he was able to create such a strong seal for the Kyuubi, and somehow infused this other seal to manifest when the host takes the Bijuu chakara???

 

[irkool_budd]

The new seal suddenly appeared (and was not performed by naruto) right after naruto absorbed the new chakra. Even he was amazed by the new power, by the look on his face. He then closed the [apparently] new seal, maybe with his key, before kyubi could attack him. Why would it not be fair to assume that the power and change came only from the kyubi's chakra. The so6p could implant his knowledge and power in the last of bijus just as easily as minato. why he would do that.. there are many reasons and secondary theories

My theory is that everything that happened was through the fox's chakra (but as a channel, not having anything special itself), and that naruto did not inherit anything real beforehand. if he inherited the will of fire from whoever were his ancestors, that's fair enough.
Here it doesn't matter if he was a senju because, as we discussed, they did not have any special ability. It could have all been planned by the so6p to help whoever gained control over the kyubi.

the four element seal no longer exists since it's no longer seen. The key minato created might be able to open/close multiple seals (or so) since nothing is said about that technique.

This might not be what kishimoto plans to tell us, but if he did, it could make sense and be simple at the same time.


now we're monopolising the thread

yeah, it would be logic to say that the new seal comes with the chakra acquired from the fox... you have to understand that the kyuubi was the special bijuu among the 9 and that even the sage, probably, made sure of that when things could go wrong something should be done to seal back the fox... you can see that in the manga when naruto assimilated the fox's chakra, right? the glowing chakra then the writings was visible on naruto's body... and i do believe that the fourth's four element seal is long gone... coz kushina said herself, her ckakra was employed as part of the seal...

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

Something I was just thinking about now that it is clear Naruto has the So6P's body. I have been saying for a while that I think he will eventually be a second coming of the sage but my previous theory was that Sasuke would get the Rinnegan (which we should know soon if Madara already hooked that up) and end up giving them to Naruto once he turns back to good when they fight. But what if Hinata is the one to make the sacrifice and give Naruto her Byakugan which then upgrade to the Rinnegan. It was said before that the Byakugan are actually the more pure form of the sages eyes that the Sharingan evolved from so wouldn't it make sense that they would be able to mutate into the Rinnegan?


This is how I think the end of Naruto will play out. Madara will get the Eight tails and the other half of the Nine tails (it has been said that only half of the Fox's chakra was sealed in Naruto so he could still have his half.) Sasuke and Naruto will fight and Itachi's gift will tip the scales so Naruto wins, either by bringing Sasuke back to the light or by killing him. Madara won't be able to control the Ten tails and it will go berserk. If Sasuke gets the Rinnegan he will then give them to Naruto to save the world, if not I think Hinata will give him her Byakugan which will then mutate into Rinnegan (maybe that is the key, Byakugan in the sages body create Rinnegan.) Naruto will save the world.


Also something a lot of people don't seem to be taking into consideration. The Sages sons did not instantly become the Uchiha and Senju, that happened down the road. If it was true that the Byakugan were the next dojutsu to evolve out of the Sages lineage then either his son had them or he had Rinnegan and somewhere down the line his children or grandchildren etc... ended up with Byakugan which then further on became Sharingan. It is true the Uchiha and Senju became the most powerful of his descendants but the Hyuga are also a part of the same line the Uchiha came from so it wouldn't be a stretch to think the Uzuzmaki are from the same line as the Senju without being Senju specifically. Maybe the Hyuga and the Uzumaki are in fact the clans produced by the sages sons and the Uchiha and Senju spawned from them.

Just a thought.

Great theory dude it may be a very important point

 

[Astral]

What if EMS + EMS = Rin'negan. Since EMS + Kyuubi couldnt defeat the first hokage (madara v hashirama), if we wanna go with this sage body and sage eye theory, maybe EMS vs a jinchuuriki isnt enough and sasuke kills madara and takes his eyes, which perhaps result in RIN'NEGAN!!

 

[irkool_budd]

What if EMS + EMS = Rin'negan. Since EMS + Kyuubi couldnt defeat the first hokage (madara v hashirama), if we wanna go with this sage body and sage eye theory, maybe EMS vs a jinchuuriki isnt enough and sasuke kills madara and takes his eyes, which perhaps result in RIN'NEGAN!!

that's a very long shot but i think you have a point... but it really bothers me tho how pein got the rinnegan in the first place...i mean, he came from a far away country without anything to do with the originators of the ninja world... my guess is that, rinnegan is rinnegan and nothing can be done to bring it back... ems + ems tho, i think will only result to jst ems... coz u see, when you get assimilate something, you only get the ability of that particular thing plus ur own... eg. kakashi, he assimilited all the ability of tobi plus his element affinity that's why kakashi can use the 4 elements (hes 2 plus obito's 2)...

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

Guys there is a very important thing we need to think about. Minato said he sealed half of the fox's chakra in Naruto so where is the other half. Either somehow Madara already has that or we will see Naruto getting the other half in the future.

 

[Astral]

i was just sayin, i really wanna see the next dam manga, in 2 weeks.. bogus

 

[Astral]

Guys there is a very important thing we need to think about. Minato said he sealed half of the fox's chakra in Naruto so where is the other half. Either somehow Madara already has that or we will see Naruto getting the other half in the future.

I posted that like a page or 2 ago lol. perhaps it got locked away with kushina, or something, madara can't have it cuz gedo mazo onl has 7/9 eyes, and madara is a fraction of his former self

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

that's a very long shot but i think you have a point... but it really bothers me tho how pein got the rinnegan in the first place...i mean, he came from a far away country without anything to do with the originators of the ninja world... my guess is that, rinnegan is rinnegan and nothing can be done to bring it back... ems + ems tho, i think will only result to jst ems... coz u see, when you get assimilate something, you only get the ability of that particular thing plus ur own... eg. kakashi, he assimilited all the ability of tobi plus his element affinity that's why kakashi can use the 4 elements (hes 2 plus obito's 2)...

Yup very much true I really don't see either Sasuke or Naruto getting the Rinnegan. We are all sure that Sasuke is the descendant of the Sage's elder son that is the Uchiha so Sasuke has the eyes of the Sage where else Senju has the body but we were not sure whether Naruto is one. But now we can say that Naruto is a Sage so its like body vs eye. Unless Madara transplants the Rinnegan into himself or Sasuke I can't see that happening because if that was the case Madara would have had the Rinnegan long time ago.

 

[niblack89]

I read a great theory that said. When Naruto grabs the kyuubi's chakra a new seal would activate to just use the kyuubi's chakra in the same fashion as the Rikudō Sennin. Its the same exact replica as the Rikudō Senni's sealing jutsu. Also since that seal actived when Naruto used the resealing jutsu the same resealing jutsu actived to reseal the kyuubi. Minato was a sealing genus to discover the closest or exact sealing method that the Rikudō Sennin used it may even be better.

 

[uhIpooped]

that's a very long shot but i think you have a point... but it really bothers me tho how pein got the rinnegan in the first place...i mean, he came from a far away country without anything to do with the originators of the ninja world... my guess is that, rinnegan is rinnegan and nothing can be done to bring it back... ems + ems tho, i think will only result to jst ems... coz u see, when you get assimilate something, you only get the ability of that particular thing plus ur own... eg. kakashi, he assimilited all the ability of tobi plus his element affinity that's why kakashi can use the 4 elements (hes 2 plus obito's 2)...

really guys... stop with the Obito/Tobi crap

 

[irkool_budd]

Guys there is a very important thing we need to think about. Minato said he sealed half of the fox's chakra in Naruto so where is the other half. Either somehow Madara already has that or we will see Naruto getting the other half in the future.

does it ever occur to you that he sealed half of it in the scroll that minato used as the key? coz you see, why does naruto have to engulf that scroll, why not jst use it rightaway? and that when naruto released the seal, the fox was in its whole form...i mean, why does naruto have to deal with the hate part of the fox when half the fox is sealed somewhere anyways?

really guys... stop with the Obito/Tobi crap

no, i was only referring the sharingan eyes that kakashi got from obito...i dont even believe in the first place that obito is tobi... that is way out!

add: hahaha....i dint realize that i wrote TOBI in there... my wrong! i meant to say when kakashi got hold of OBITO's sharingan... i stand corrected

 

[Alkad]

does it ever occur to you that he sealed half of it in the scroll that minato used as the key? coz you see, why does naruto have to engulf that scroll, why not jst use it rightaway? and that when naruto released the seal, the fox was in its whole form...i mean, why does naruto have to deal with the hate part of the fox when half the fox is sealed somewhere anyways?

the yang half is sealed in naruto, the yin half is in the reaper, fighting minato for an eternity. There is no way of retrieving the yin half. Kishimoto still has some explaining to do about what yin and yang really mean in this context. Which might just be the next chapter.

You can't tell which half is which just by looking at one: They're continuous masses of chakra that each take an individual form of the kyubi: like Sora's, for example - that was a different kyubi, from the same chakra source. Comparing the two halves might be possible, since minato separated them the best that he could. Naruto's kyubi is practically complete, but it has no/little yin chakra and is probably much weaker than the original kyubi. (or the one that kushina had) He can control his half individually, without the other part even knowing. If naruto ever got the other one back (if), he might need to learn how to control that one too.. and separate its chakra from its will again, and put those two halves that are left in a cage.. and then they might also merge.

Madara's jubi, as a result, would be a weakened version of what he hopes to create.

Conclusion: A good half of a valuable biju was lost when minato threw it away for some mysterious reasons.

as for swallowing the scroll-toad, it seems the usual practice in the land of toads instead of "assimilating" it and learning its contents. he basically gained a power from eating the key, that of opening/closing the seal. you could tell that naruto, too, expected a different "learning" approach

 

[Konoha Rokudaime]

I don't think madara's capable of controlling 7 bijuu sealed inside him at once. Not even sure if it's possible. 7x the chance of losing control. and sasuke won't get anything, he's just a pawn.. always been (madara's, orochimaru's and itachi's)

Agree. Sasuke being a pawn. :y

that's a very long shot but i think you have a point... but it really bothers me tho how pein got the rinnegan in the first place...i mean, he came from a far away country without anything to do with the originators of the ninja world... my guess is that, rinnegan is rinnegan and nothing can be done to bring it back... ems + ems tho, i think will only result to jst ems... coz u see, when you get assimilate something, you only get the ability of that particular thing plus ur own... eg. kakashi, he assimilited all the ability of tobi plus his element affinity that's why kakashi can use the 4 elements (hes 2 plus obito's 2)...

Where exactly did you see Kakashi using 4 elements in the manga(forget the anime)?

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

the yang half is sealed in naruto, the yin half is in the reaper, fighting minato for an eternity. There is no way of retrieving the yin half. Kishimoto still has some explaining to do about what yin and yang really mean in this context. Which might just be the next chapter.

You can't tell which half is which just by looking at one: They're continuous masses of chakra that each take an individual form of the kyubi: like Sora's, for example - that was a different kyubi, from the same chakra source. Comparing the two halves might be possible, since minato separated them the best that he could. Naruto's kyubi is practically complete, but it has no/little yin chakra and is probably much weaker than the original kyubi. (or the one that kushina had) He can control his half individually, without the other part even knowing. If naruto ever got the other one back (if), he might need to learn how to control that one too.. and separate its chakra from its will again, and put those two halves that are left in a cage.. and then they might also merge.

Madara's jubi, as a result, would be a weakened version of what he hopes to create.

Conclusion: A good half of a valuable biju was lost when minato threw it away for some mysterious reasons.

as for swallowing the scroll-toad, it seems the usual practice in the land of toads instead of "assimilating" it and learning its contents. he basically gained a power from eating the key, that of opening/closing the seal. you could tell that naruto, too, expected a different "learning" approach

Ya but Kishi still needs to explain it clearly but your theory may be right

 

[irkool_budd]

Where exactly did you see Kakashi using 4 elements in the manga(forget the anime)?

hehehe...tried to search it on the manga where kakashi used all four, i agree it was only on the anime, i can only 2 he can use, lightning and earth... but i believe he also assimilated obito's element affinity...

 

[uhIpooped]

I'm starting to wonder about the significance of Naruto telling the Kyuubi "I wont hurt you Kyuubi, wait ... just wait..."
Is this him leading into setting the beasts free? Or maybe implying that he only intends to use The Kyuubi chakara for the up and coming battle?
hmmm... To me this is significant...

 

[Konoha Rokudaime]

hehehe...tried to search it on the manga where kakashi used all four, i agree it was only on the anime, i can only 2 he can use, lightning and earth... but i believe he also assimilated obito's element affinity...

If so, then it'll be fire(Uchiha). But i guess that's unlikely.

I'm starting to wonder about the significance of Naruto telling the Kyuubi "I wont hurt you Kyuubi, wait ... just wait..."
Is this him leading into setting the beasts free? Or maybe implying that he only intends to use The Kyuubi chakara for the up and coming battle?
hmmm... To me this is significant...

That's what many of us are anxious to know. My guess is that Naruto is going to gather all the Tailed Beasts, make peace with them and set it free. Ummm... or it could be anything.

 

[Alkad]

I'm starting to wonder about the significance of Naruto telling the Kyuubi "I wont hurt you Kyuubi, wait ... just wait..."
Is this him leading into setting the beasts free? Or maybe implying that he only intends to use The Kyuubi chakara for the up and coming battle?
hmmm... To me this is significant...

That's what many of us are anxious to know. My guess is that Naruto is going to gather all the Tailed Beasts, make peace with them and set it free. Ummm... or it could be anything.

Or it may simply mean that he does not want revenge on the kyubi for making his childhood a living hell. He's pure-hearted now. Plus, there's not much he can do to hurt the kyubi and get anything out of it. Last guess, for now: He's pwning the kyubi, trying to soften it:hug: and get it to cooperate. I'm still inclined to think that he'd forgiven it for (or does not care anymore about) everything that it had done to him. At least to me, it sounded that way.

And the kyubi should be his least concern now.

Add: He'd be a moron if he tried to make a peace agreement with the *beasts* and let them run in the wild, esp the kyubi

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

Or it may simply mean that he does not want revenge on the kyubi for making his childhood a living hell. He's pure-hearted now. Plus, there's not much he can do to hurt the kyubi and get anything out of it. Last guess, for now: He's pwning the kyubi, trying to soften it:hug: and get it to cooperate. I'm still inclined to think that he'd forgiven it for (or does not care anymore about) everything that it had done to him. At least to me, it sounded that way.

And the kyubi should be his least concern now.

Add: He'd be a moron if he tried to make a peace agreement with the *beasts* and let them run in the wild, esp the kyubi

I think now Naruto will try to convince the Kyuubi to be his partner the Kyuubi will refuse but ultimately help him but I don't think it will be the same as Bee and Hachibi