1.) I think that Kishi said he didn't want to write about team Hawk but was told to. Given that, I think he's using the 8 tails fight to develop each character some more, at least their powers. I might be wrong about that first part.
2.) the 8 tails broke Tsukyumi:
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/413/09/
It was not a normal genjutsu. First, it was cast with MS. Second, it's artwork/nature looked exactly like Itachi's Tsukyumi on Kakashi and Sasuke, except that last one where he took his eyes. Tsukyumi was never tried on Naruto, so we don't know if he knows how to break it, even though it now appears he is capable.
3.) That 8 tails is fighting with at least 3 tails before he goes into bijou form. Sasuke only saw Naruto with 1 tail, and Orochimaru barely survived Naruto when he was 3-4 tails.
4.) Sasuke's running out of tricks here. Why the hell didn't Akatski give Sasuke better intelligence on this bijou? Did they not have it, or not want Sasuke to have it? They seem to have scouted every one else out well. Sasuke wouldn't be in as much a predicament if he knew about the lightening affinity and genjutsu breaking ability of this Bijou. Now, he still has Ameratsu, and I assume he can use it at will, so I've always been curious if it burns through a chakra cloak or the bijou itself, or if their chakra is too intense. Finally, he may have Susanoo. Honestly though, Sasuke has looked like crap against the 8 tails, which is a curiousity. Perhaps because he has others to worry about? He's also gonna go blind in a hurry at this rate if he keeps using one MS technique after another. He already blew Tsukyumi on a person to find the 8 tails, he better be conservative if he wants to avoid the "darkness" unless he's toting Itachi's eyeballs around with him.
5.) If Sasuke gets his CS back from Juugo's chakra, I'll be irritated.
6.) While it is retarded to mix a bull with an octopus, imagine a giant octopus head doing crap, that would look worse to me anyway.
7.) I don't expect Naruto in the next chapter except for a page if any. This is now all about the Hawk and the 8 tails. It's a clear cliffhanger:naruto:.
8.) If Pein is so great how the hell is he getting to Konoha, a bus? Jiraiya took the opposite trip via a toad nearly instantaneously, I'd think he could use some quick jutsu like that.
9.) I think Naruto is supposed to not rely on the 9 tails for his power. He isn't supposed to ignore it or not use it. In other words, he should control the fox, not let the fox/his anger control him. When he can do that, which sage training will likely help. Naruto's gonna be a pain in the ass to fight.
I AGREE! naruto will surely learn how to control the fox's power in sage training, if not, whats the use of having it? All it does is annoy him and stuff. And I think Sasuke will have to be rescued or something, I mean c'mon he has almost gotten killed twice and the 8 tails isn't even going completely at him.
By the way, sorry for not being on lately, I have been outta town guys!
Ok: I agree on Sasuke's injuries, I actually thought Sasuke was dead and that at the most... he could be brought back from death, but not healed.
I don't think nature chakra can knock out genjutsu (I mean: allowing you to get rid of it once you're in) but it may block it (sort of "firewall")
Please tell me if you remember when/where Yamato told naruto that he would be able to bit sasuke with his own eyes, cannot remember. But I guess that in order to win over Sasuke, Naruto needs to fight WITHOUT the kyubi's chakra, otherwise Sasuke may take hold of him as he can control the kyubi.
About nature, sage arts, the kyubi; I think they are fit for different purposes as they are different kind of powers. Maybe it is useful to use the Kyubi if you are in a situation that does not allow you to remain "dead" or "relaxed" as you need to use nature. What do you think?
its right after they fight orochi but before they reach his laire
why? well he's got way more chakra......he kinda already had surpassed him just by completing rasenshuriken.....and he wouldn't even be in training if he wasn't going to complete it they will NOT make him look froggish and finaly,the manga is f'n named after him....i mean come on bro grow a brain!!
Why does everyone believe that after naruto finishes his sage training, he will be the stronger than jaraiya and will be able to beat pein. I dont think that naruto could ever surpass jaraiya up in now even he completes the sage training. Jaraiya has years and years of experience under his belt in addition to numerous jutsus and strategies. all naruto pretty much knows is rasengan. and doesn't he still have to use two hands to complete it. I mean if jaraiya couldn't even beat pein, i dont think there is any hope for naruto or konoha!
Ok: I agree on Sasuke's injuries, I actually thought Sasuke was dead and that at the most... he could be brought back from death, but not healed.
I don't think nature chakra can knock out genjutsu (I mean: allowing you to get rid of it once you're in) but it may block it (sort of "firewall")
Please tell me if you remember when/where Yamato told naruto that he would be able to bit sasuke with his own eyes, cannot remember. But I guess that in order to win over Sasuke, Naruto needs to fight WITHOUT the kyubi's chakra, otherwise Sasuke may take hold of him as he can control the kyubi.
About nature, sage arts, the kyubi; I think they are fit for different purposes as they are different kind of powers. Maybe it is useful to use the Kyubi if you are in a situation that does not allow you to remain "dead" or "relaxed" as you need to use nature. What do you think?
Earlier in the pages, they talk about yin and yang chakra of the 9 tails. i really don't get it and think its kinda stupid.
Also wasn't it said naruto is going to surpass jiraiya? or at least is learning faster than him? i believe it was stated by pa frog or something. and also naruto prob will surpass jiraiya because he learned the rasengan in a couple weeks! he is a way faster learner.
what if all these sceans are a genjutsu that 8th tails sees we know sasuke is way better than it shown at this fight so i think in the middle of somewere 8th realisez that he deceived with the genjutsu and find a way to dispers the genjutsu and do some real fight...