Naruto getting to powerful

[Neutrino00]

which is why there can't be things like "worm holes" and using some sort of portal inorder to go accross space and/or time.

 

[twistedlink]

amount of chakra can increase power if you use it all in one go like gai, or when you have unlimited amounts like kyubii.

Naruto himself can launch massive amounts of chakra into rasenshuriken, but as i keep pointing out, it doesnt matter how much power one has behind a jutsu if it misses, which it did with kakuzu, sure it hit 2nd time, but it doesnt mean itl always hit 2nd time with every enemy he tricks it with.

It doesnt really matter what i say anyway whenever i say anything every member just gangs up on me.

so whatever, naruto is the most powerful ninja ever, no one can ever dodge rasenshuriken, the kakuzu thing was a typo on kishis part obviously.

And his new jutsu means he can kill anyone, anywhere, anytime, and even unborn babies, even unconceptioned babies.

And hes stronger than all 5 hokages put together...actually make that all kages in all 5 countries.

happy now?

Boy oh boy, i never knew simply upgrading the rasengan made him go from pretty good to better than everyone, ever.

 

[Neutrino00]

Theories need to be proven either correct or wrong... such as the THEORY of evolution.
Laws are made to be broken

exactly.

 

[twistedlink]

Theories need to be proven either correct or wrong... such as the THEORY of evolution.
Laws are made to be broken

Actually neutrino is correct, in science its much easier and usually more useful to prove something wrong, in order to prove something inversely connected-correct.

Thats usually the way things are done, you could say its a pedantic point as every thing you prove wrong, you prove something right, which is true, but meh lol.

 

[Neutrino00]

amount of chakra can increase power if you use it all in one go like gai, or when you have unlimited amounts like kyubii.

Naruto himself can launch massive amounts of chakra into rasenshuriken, but as i keep pointing out, it doesnt matter how much power one has behind a jutsu if it misses, which it did with kakuzu, sure it hit 2nd time, but it doesnt mean itl always hit 2nd time with every enemy he tricks it with.

It doesnt really matter what i say anyway whenever i say anything every member just gangs up on me.

so whatever, naruto is the most powerful ninja ever, no one can ever dodge rasenshuriken, the kakuzu thing was a typo on kishis part obviously.

And his new jutsu means he can kill anyone, anywhere, anytime, and even unborn babies, even unconceptioned babies.

And hes stronger than all 5 hokages put together...actually make that all kages in all 5 countries.

happy now?

Boy oh boy, i never knew simply upgrading the rasengan made him go from pretty good to better than everyone, ever.

we were never saying that upgrading rasengan would make him better than everyone else. and this is an argument, we are happy to listen to what you have to say, and what you bring forward to back up your opinion. we were never saying he could defeat every single person out there. We were just saying how he is getting to powerfull for his charactor, and could beat most people out there. right now naruto could crush sasuke. Naruto could pretty much crush pain. If naruto actually went all out against kakashi, kakashi would get totally owned. and now being able to like destroy mountains, and become pretty much rigged with sage mode, make him pretty much rigged. and since that jutsu he is working on doesn't have an element, there arn't any elemental advantage's against it.

 

[twistedlink]

How can naruto crush sasuke??

sorry i dont see it.

He has amaterasu, which so far only orochimaru and sasuke (using orochimarus technique) has accomplished.

He also has kirin, an undodgable technique, unless naruto pulls susano outta his ass i dont think naruto can dodge that or block it as he has no defensive jutsu whatsoever.

Sasuke is faster, smarter, and has a lot more useful jutsus under his sleeve, sasuke also taught us he uses his sharingan to its fullest with deidara, he can see tiny molecule sized bombs, no way is naruto going to trick sasuke with kage bunshin.

If naruto had a wind barrier (winds stronger than electricity)

then yeah, id say he would have a chance, even though amaterasu is very very difficult to dodge.

If naruto learned flying thunder god technique, then yeah, naruto would win, but right now naruto would be a sitting duck, even with sage mode, he'd be a crisp with kirin and amaterasu.

Amaterasu is a really cheap (yet very effective) jutsu.

 

[Neutrino00]

well kirin is pretty tough, but everything else naruto could own sasuke with. amaterasu, I think that the ability to put it out was given to him by itachi. sagemode with those guys on his back could own sasuke's speed and stuff. not moving at all will mess up his sharingan, plus sharingan has bad vission now. kage bushin equally distributes his chakra throughout all the clones. if naruto just summoned ma and pa frog's then he could just own sasuke before sasuke could set up kirin.

 

[-sHawTy-]

Ifs and buts, the point is no matter whether its kyubii or not, naruto isnt a win all ninja.

No he didnt become a chuunin because he failed the exam. - NO, he did win coz he defeated Neji. He wasnt juz chosen Coz Shikamaru was a better strategic analyst which is a pre-requisite to be a Chunin.

FAKE JINCHURIKI IS FILLER, IT IS NOT BY KISHI, THEYRE LAME ASS EPISODES MADE BY THE COMPANY WHO DOES THE ANIME - FIne, but Naruto was able to defeat the Jinchuuriki Gaara. Sasuke couldnt.

defeated kabuto??? -
erm...when? when he used Rasengan the first time during the Sannin Match.


He damaged kakashis hand because kakashi drove his technique straight into narutos, kakashi can still win against naruto in a fight because kakashi wont do that in a fight, hed run or dodge or attack back somehow. - no, Kakashi did give his best shot with that chidori or Raikiri watever against Naruto's RS. Also note that Kakashi did acknowledge Naruto for surpassing him. He did say that.


Naruto isnt overpowered, he couldnt ever beat the likes of itachi, sasuke, deidara, pain, konan, jiraiya, 4th, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, orochimaru, tsunade, kisame, madara, and maaaaaany more, even with sage training, overpowered just because he has wind elemental rasengan? You wouldnt know that yet coz they haven't fought. But it is a possibility that he can win. You're juz assuming coz those people seem to be very powerful. You have underestimated Naruto like most of the villagers did, and what happened, they got amazed of his improvements. He will give a good fight if they will ever.

No, its a strong attack, and it has many many hits to it, but naruto cant really do it to skilled enemies, he simply wouldnt be able to trick itachi, jiraiya, pain, or many other talented shinobi for that matter, they would repeatedly dodge it.

Narutos jutsus are only overpowered once they hit, and luckily naruto is slow and cumbersome and dim-witted.

Sorry but sasuke is much stronger than naruto in one simple fact. - You cant say that coz they havent fought. That MS Sasuke got is making him blind and eventually, maybe, will make him sick. Wind natured chakra is the most powerful elemental chakra among others.

sasuke has kirin, and even itachi had to drag out his trump card susano to save his ass from that jutsu.

Kirin moves at the speed of light, can naruto dodge that? -- When was that? she got burnt by Sasuke's Amaterasu? I would like to see the chapter.

One fried naruto.

Also sasuke has many other sharingan moves that could whoop naruto. - Its not all about how many jutsus you got to be able to win. Look at Oro. Again, it comes down to will, guts and never give up attitude.

aight, the ones with bold are mah comments to your quote.

 

[9tailsSage]

naruto needs to be over powered because the villain are overpowered with hax powers. pain has the rinnegan which can see ever where and use every element. he can also control other bodies and use them as realms and the god pain flew last chapter and can control gravity. madara he is immortal, has the ems with all the sharingan abilities the others have plus more, he can use a super space/time jutsu beyond the fourth. that is overpowered by a lot and if naruto is to beat then it has to be believable so naruto has to be overpowered to be able to win. so in conclusion the only way for naruto to with and not look bad is for him to be over powered, he can not just with with rasengan and shadow clones. :naruto:

 

[twistedlink]

He still failed the exam, meaning he doesnt "win" everything or get his own way, point is he failed because others were better than him.

kakashi meant in terms of jutsu, not fighting.

think about the naruto sakura vs kakashi bell training in shippuuden, the only new thing naruto has is rasenshuriken, how is that meant to mean he can suddenly whoop kakashi?

Sorry but no, he is too fast, and smart to be fooled, it doesnt matter what type of rasengan it is, naruto couldnt hit kakashi with standard rasengan in bell training and his speed with RS is the same, meaning he'll miss with that too.

Eh, im underestimating him because he has, really, lets face it, 1 jutsu, rasengan.

Sorry but theyre all the same, just differing powers sure.

If kakashi had water dragon, and then "SLIGHTLY more powerful water dragon"

we'd all just go "errm...wtf?"

but when naruto makes oodama rasengan which was just pathetic everyone went all hissy fitty and started creaming there pants over such a dumbass technique that was still the rasengan.





Wind is most powerful?

erm...no

its a transitive inference feedback loop system

fire beats wind, wind beats electricity, electricity beats water, water beats earth, earth beats fire.

There is no "most powerful element"

Its just that wind has more "damage" factor, but narutos wind attacks will simply make an opposing ninjas fire attacks stronger.

When was that? she got burnt by Sasuke's Amaterasu? I would like to see the chapter.

when was what?

whos she?

what are you talking about?

Very true its not all about jutsus, fighting technique, smarts, strategy, and bloodlimits all count, unfortunately naruto is shit at all of them listed.

Hes a dumbass with the lowest amount of jutsus ever.

we must also take into consideration that naruto doesn't even have a 2nd element yet, meaning he isnt even qualified to take a jounin examination, yet somehow he can beat akatsuki and own all the sannin...yeah...okay

 

[Neutrino00]

naruto is not shit, he think's outside the box allowing him to win, he never give's up and can push himself past his limit sort of, his fighting techniques are good. Naruto isn't a dumb***, and he has a good amount of jutsu's. while naruto doesn't have his second element, he does have chakra manipulation, which doesn't have an element that has a distinct advantage over it. naruto could probably own pain(his shadowclone jutsu pretty much is the ultimate counter to pain's style of fighting). well at least he isn't like DBZ guys lol.

 

[6th hokage]

twisted, u r on FIRE...LOLLL

anyway, why r u so hell bent on chunin exam? does it matter who passed, or 'failed'? acc to sasuke 'failed' too(just dont understand how ppl fail when exam is not yet complete and being abandoned, ppl can pass based on partial result but ppl cant fail unless he completes the exam, bcos there is a chance he might pass, this happens in real world)? does it signify anything? FYI sasuke isnt chunin yet, bcos he didnt get the certificate/approval from academy/examiner/whatever. yet tenten is chunin. i just dont understand the argument.

 

[-sHawTy-]

He still failed the exam, meaning he doesnt "win" everything or get his own way, point is he failed because others were better than him. - Well, Shikamaru became the chuunin. Are you saying Shikamaru is stronger than Naruto? That, i dont think so.

kakashi meant in terms of jutsu, not fighting. - but still, Naruto's RS still beat Kakashi's chidori/raikiri. And he did say, Naruto has surpassed Kakashi. He even said Naruto will surpass the 4th Hokage, who btw, was the strongest shinobi ever. He was also able to complete that jutsu the 4th was workin on.

think about the naruto sakura vs kakashi bell training in shippuuden, the only new thing naruto has is rasenshuriken, how is that meant to mean he can suddenly whoop kakashi? He can whoop Kakashi's ass. Note, RS did beat Kakuzu. Kakashi couldnt.

Sorry but no, he is too fast, and smart to be fooled, it doesnt matter what type of rasengan it is, naruto couldnt hit kakashi with standard rasengan in bell training and his speed with RS is the same, meaning he'll miss with that too. - True, Kakashi is faster, but Naruto has greater stamina. Naruto can stand in battle more than Kakashi could ever. No matter how fast Kakashi is using his sharingan, if it drains his chakra, then no use. Unlike Naruto, who's got huge amount of Stamina, like Energizer battery that keeps going on and on.

Eh, im underestimating him because he has, really, lets face it, 1 jutsu, rasengan. - yeah, just one jutsu, and still was able to defeat his opponents, Neji, Gaara and some others. JUST ONE, who knows if he gets another one.

Sorry but theyre all the same, just differing powers sure.

If kakashi had water dragon, and then "SLIGHTLY more powerful water dragon"

we'd all just go "errm...wtf?"

but when naruto makes oodama rasengan which was just pathetic everyone went all hissy fitty and started creaming there pants over such a dumbass technique that was still the rasengan. - but its an improved Rasengan. More powerful Rasengan. Still a Jutsu. Kakashi was amazed by it too. And that took out the fake Itachi who is pretty powerful. Kakashi couldnt.




Wind is most powerful?

erm...no

its a transitive inference feedback loop system
f
ire beats wind, wind beats electricity, electricity beats water, water beats earth, earth beats fire.

There is no "most powerful element"

Its just that wind has more "damage" factor, but narutos wind attacks will simply make an opposing ninjas fire attacks stronger.




when was what?

whos she?

what are you talking about? You said Kirin can move in a speed of light. I did quote you on that one.

Very true its not all about jutsus, fighting technique, smarts, strategy, and bloodlimits all count, unfortunately naruto is shit at all of them listed.

Hes a dumbass with the lowest amount of jutsus ever. - He's not a dumbass, he had proven that a lot of times, during the Zabuza fight, Gaara fight, Kakuzu fight and many others im too lazy to think.

we must also take into consideration that naruto doesn't even have a 2nd element yet, meaning he isnt even qualified to take a jounin examination, yet somehow he can beat akatsuki and own all the sannin...yeah...okay - See, thats juz one element, and hence can make a hell lot damage. What more if he's got another one?

again, the bold ones.

 

[Skye Kaguya]

If anything naruto needs to get more powerful...

 

[KASTAWAY]

The Kyuubi is the greatest source of power, but Naruto can't control it's power (yet).

Now explain to me. Madara uses time-space jutsu and practically laughed at Naruto when Naruto did his rasengan jutsu.

Pain killed Jiraya. Naruto in his current state is too immature to be fighting as god as Jiraya.

Konan... Might die by Naruto. Even though i'm not sure. I think she will become allies with Naruto.

Right now => Akatsuki > Naruto.
We have seen Akatsuki in action, but not Naruto. Think he'll be able to fight Madara, a immortal EMS user with loads of experience all by himself? No.[/QUOTE


WELL MADARA IS THE NEXT LEVEL TO REACH, HIS EXPERIENCE ALONE IS POWER IN ITSELF BUT THE EMS WOW! WONDER WHAT IT CAN DO. BUT AS WE HAVE SEEN TIME AT TIME AGAIN A TEACHER PRESENTS THEMSELVES TO GIVE NARUTO THE EDGE. I THINK HE LAUGHED BECAUSE OF NARUTO'S POOR CHAKRA CONTROL.

 

[KASTAWAY]

ifs and buts, the point is no matter whether its kyubii or not, naruto isnt a win all ninja.

No he didnt become a chuunin because he failed the exam.

Fake jinchuriki is filler, it is not by kishi, theyre lame ass episodes made by the company who does the anime

defeated kabuto???

Erm...when?


He damaged kakashis hand because kakashi drove his technique straight into narutos, kakashi can still win against naruto in a fight because kakashi wont do that in a fight, hed run or dodge or attack back somehow.


Naruto isnt overpowered, he couldnt ever beat the likes of itachi, sasuke, deidara, pain, konan, jiraiya, 4th, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, orochimaru, tsunade, kisame, madara, and maaaaaany more, even with sage training, overpowered just because he has wind elemental rasengan?

No, its a strong attack, and it has many many hits to it, but naruto cant really do it to skilled enemies, he simply wouldnt be able to trick itachi, jiraiya, pain, or many other talented shinobi for that matter, they would repeatedly dodge it.

Narutos jutsus are only overpowered once they hit, and luckily naruto is slow and cumbersome and dim-witted.

Sorry but sasuke is much stronger than naruto in one simple fact

sasuke has kirin, and even itachi had to drag out his trump card susano to save his ass from that jutsu.

Kirin moves at the speed of light, can naruto dodge that? No

one fried naruto.

Also sasuke has many other sharingan moves that could whoop naruto.

hey pump your brakes my friend, naruto could not beat some of these people even with sage art's . Wtf you have not scene naruto fight in sage mode yet. Plus naruto had limited training (no strategies, fighting style, and a lot more but all these gaps are now being closed)

the exam - what! Didn't he fail because he's a poor student not a poor ninja

the jutsu your talking about was not perfected then his hit ratio will go up once he perfected the jutsu

sasukes day's are limited, why? His biggest frustration was how could a bum like naruto keep up with him . That's why he left to village to get ahead of naruto.

 

[TOBI!]

there is no such thing as to powerful
besides we need someone to be in the
anime god tier besides DBZ

 

[KASTAWAY]

HEY ALL NARUTO FANS

the Orochimaru vs naruto/ 9tails fight

look naruto did not lose. he had no control over himself Orochimaru was fighting a fox, that's why he lived . a ninja thinks, plans

naruto in the 4-tails can't tell friend from foe

so please stop putting it in your arguments besides to talk about naruto's poor self-control

 

[Skye Kaguya]

He still failed the exam, meaning he doesnt "win" everything or get his own way, point is he failed because others were better than him.

kakashi meant in terms of jutsu, not fighting.

think about the naruto sakura vs kakashi bell training in shippuuden, the only new thing naruto has is rasenshuriken, how is that meant to mean he can suddenly whoop kakashi?

Sorry but no, he is too fast, and smart to be fooled, it doesnt matter what type of rasengan it is, naruto couldnt hit kakashi with standard rasengan in bell training and his speed with RS is the same, meaning he'll miss with that too.

Eh, im underestimating him because he has, really, lets face it, 1 jutsu, rasengan.

Sorry but theyre all the same, just differing powers sure.

If kakashi had water dragon, and then "SLIGHTLY more powerful water dragon"

we'd all just go "errm...wtf?"

but when naruto makes oodama rasengan which was just pathetic everyone went all hissy fitty and started creaming there pants over such a dumbass technique that was still the rasengan.





Wind is most powerful?

erm...no

its a transitive inference feedback loop system

fire beats wind, wind beats electricity, electricity beats water, water beats earth, earth beats fire.

There is no "most powerful element"

Its just that wind has more "damage" factor, but narutos wind attacks will simply make an opposing ninjas fire attacks stronger.




when was what?

whos she?

what are you talking about?

Very true its not all about jutsus, fighting technique, smarts, strategy, and bloodlimits all count, unfortunately naruto is shit at all of them listed.

Hes a dumbass with the lowest amount of jutsus ever.

we must also take into consideration that naruto doesn't even have a 2nd element yet, meaning he isnt even qualified to take a jounin examination, yet somehow he can beat akatsuki and own all the sannin...yeah...okay

You are very Stupid

Shut up and GTFO Noob...

sasuke fanboys.... hate them...

 

[KASTAWAY]

How can naruto crush sasuke??

sorry i dont see it.

He has amaterasu, which so far only orochimaru and sasuke (using orochimarus technique) has accomplished.

He also has kirin, an undodgable technique, unless naruto pulls susano outta his ass i dont think naruto can dodge that or block it as he has no defensive jutsu whatsoever.

Sasuke is faster, smarter, and has a lot more useful jutsus under his sleeve, sasuke also taught us he uses his sharingan to its fullest with deidara, he can see tiny molecule sized bombs, no way is naruto going to trick sasuke with kage bunshin.

If naruto had a wind barrier (winds stronger than electricity)

then yeah, id say he would have a chance, even though amaterasu is very very difficult to dodge.

If naruto learned flying thunder god technique, then yeah, naruto would win, but right now naruto would be a sitting duck, even with sage mode, he'd be a crisp with kirin and amaterasu.

Amaterasu is a really cheap (yet very effective) jutsu.

well got point but must disagree

kirin is a lightning jutsu wind is its only weakness Naruto just has to put more power in wind then sasuke put in his tech. NARUTO HAS MORE CHAKRA THEN SASUKE
O ya the sharingan cannot tell which naruto is the real one so seeing him is pointless if its the wrong one.