Nagato is a Monster and id say is the best (outside tobi with renningan now)

[psukkar]

i said not one pain body but nagato himself read what i wrote a little more carefully. I said for yahiko's body he uses amaterasu and for the rest a combination of taijutsu and his fire style ninjustu are enough cause the main obstacle is yahiko's body and he can beaten by amaterasu and afterwards itachi can beat other with moderate difficulty and finnaly if nagato comes out then tsukiyomi or other genjutsu would work. he does not need much chakra because all he needs is one amaterasu and more chakra for his fire style jutsus and taijustsu which does not take any chakra. But for nagato himself he needs only genjutsu.

yea genjutsu can affact nagato himself like anyone else, i said that, but nagato doesnt fight directly on the battlefield. This the main reason why the rinnegans 6 bodies technique is very haxxed.

 

[arv993]

but it has been proven that amerteratsu burns slow as ****!!! (sorry for cursing.lol), thats enuff time to go over there and absorb the flames. jman sealed the flames with a regular fire seal tech!!! raikage stood there with the flames on his arm and didnt flinch or let it affect him one bit! the flames burn slow and isnt instant death and that sir is a fact beyond facts, and if you ignor that then you are a uchia god worshiper to the highest calibur, and i might have to put you in the SUPER NOOB CATIGORY! which i dont want to do, you seem like a cool person..

dude i am explaining reasonably idk why you are overreacting itachi can make a lot of flames with amaterasu remember he burned the entire ground with black flames so he can do that to deva pain and the absorber can't do anything to a burnt body.

 

[arv993]

yea genjutsu can affact nagato himself like anyone else, i said that, but nagato doesnt fight directly on the battlefield. This the main reason why the rinnegans 6 bodies technique is very haxxed.

i kno i already to;d you how itachi beats others so then eventually he fights him 1v1 so thats why i said that genjustu is useful there.

 

[Tupac]

So based off the recent chapter its safe to say Nagato is nearly unstoppable! he has all 6 paths of pain powers in one body, and that is to muvh for any ninja.

absorb all ninjutsu, summon crazy monsters, weapons/missiles, gravity, shinra/chibaku tensei, revive the dead, instant death if grabbed, gedo mazou, all elements, etc etc . plus his huge huge huge amount of chakra. i think he is literally the perfect ninja (out side madara with renningan ofc).

who can defeat him if he starts off with 6 paths of pain then you have to find and face nagato with all there powers in one body???

my list goes
0- SO6P, dont count him since he is like the god of naruto
1- Tobi with renningan; cant touch him, genjutsu, renningan abilitys, teleports, etc etc
2- Nagato, nuff said (or kabuto and him switch)
3-Kabuto- he is just getting started with these edo summons
4- 1st hokage,

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5- Madara Uchiha with EMS, the one that fought onoki and hashirama
6- Muu;

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7- minato, ofc (or 3rd hokage)
8-itachi, could switch with minato
9- Killer bee, could switch with itachi and minato
10- naruto or sasuke (but they will be one and two in the future ofc..)

if you disagree come at me, but pls no noobs..

unstoppable ? didnt you see what naruto and the 9tails did to him in the pain arch ? just because all his powers are in one persons instead of the 6paths of pain.

i give credit where credit is do, nagato is very strong oppenet. but he is DEAD. it is a reason why he is, because naruto defeated him and he had nothing else to do and he was powerless since he didnt have any of the paths of pain so killed himself and revised the hole village.

and honestly what is up with your list ? you put all of the villans in the story before you put any actual hero's in. naruto and sasuke at the bottom. and kabuto as number 3. thats just rediculous. kabuto isnt really thing spectacular, he just got some of oro DNA and now he knows tobi/madara secrets with a lil edo tensi and a bigass snake. so i guess he is the real deal now ? i give it to him he has been very usefull in the magna every since oro death. but he just shouldnt be above naruto OR sasuke.

You make it seem as if nagato is just god himself in narutoverse. yes in fact he does have the rinnegan. but he is dead. u haft to face that. and if he is such .the UNSTOPPABLE ninja then how did naruto defeat him ? and not to add in the next couple of chapters he's going to do it again

 

[YIN YANG]

they are not elite ninjas like itachi and look at the databook. And he was fighting naruto when he was in kyubi mode with taijutsu so it is obvious that he is better than some controlled ninja in taijutsu and he can fight naruto well with it so he can definitely take them out and he also has good katon and suiton techs he can use on them and I told you that if he takes out yahiko with amaterasu he can't use shinra tensei or planetary devastation and since you couldn't obviously reply back about my previous thread about how the absorber cannot interfere fast enough to block tsukiyomi so yahiko dies and can't use plantary devastation. So all he has to do now is kill one absorber with taijutsu and kill everyone else with his ninjutsu and he has susano as a backup anytime. itachi then has to fight nagato and genjutsu can take care of that b4 he nagato even tries anything. Dude read the databook man itachi is good at all 3 nin,tai and genjutsu so he can easily take care of one absorber withtaijustsu like he is nothing and I will repeat read the lastest chapter where naruto and itachi use taijustsu to fight each other if itachi was can't beat an absorber(who naruto owned with taijustsu) like you believe then he won't even be able touch rm mode and that is enough proof right there.

look he wont be able to get the deva path first because like i said they fight in formation and the absorber will go first and he wont be the only one fighting itachi he uses the other paths like the animal path which can do multiple summons.Thenyou have the asura path (mechanical body) that has good strength. Im sure these 3 path's are making Itachi busy But lets not forget about the nakara path that can just summon the outer path which can revive the pains. itachi will have his hands full just fighten them because their eyes are linked this give the deva path enouogh time to just use his powers on Itahi and kill him with a rod.Even if itachi activate his mangekyo sharingan he'll losse to the big attacksofthe deva path. Naruto wasn't trying to kill itachi because they were still talking so he wasn't using his full strength so you can't say itachi taijutsu level is somewhere to naruto.:flaw:
would he really believe the deva path to get knocked out first:flaw::flaw:
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[Draegod]

unstoppable ? didnt you see what naruto and the 9tails did to him in the pain arch ? just because all his powers are in one persons instead of the 6paths of pain.

i give credit where credit is do, nagato is very strong oppenet. but he is DEAD. it is a reason why he is, because naruto defeated him and he had nothing else to do and he was powerless since he didnt have any of the paths of pain so killed himself and revised the hole village.

and honestly what is up with your list ? you put all of the villans in the story before you put any actual hero's in. naruto and sasuke at the bottom. and kabuto as number 3. thats just rediculous. kabuto isnt really thing spectacular, he just got some of oro DNA and now he knows tobi/madara secrets with a lil edo tensi and a bigass snake. so i guess he is the real deal now ? i give it to him he has been very usefull in the magna every since oro death. but he just shouldnt be above naruto OR sasuke.

You make it seem as if nagato is just god himself in narutoverse. yes in fact he does have the rinnegan. but he is dead. u haft to face that. and if he is such .the UNSTOPPABLE ninja then how did naruto defeat him ? and not to add in the next couple of chapters he's going to do it again

Tupac Back! (in rick ross voice!lmao) i had to do it!

back on topic! lmao hahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahaxdxdxdxdxdxdxdxdxdxd

dude you cant be serius??? you really think naruto beat him fair and sqaure one on one?????

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right here the fight is over! he could have killed him but needed him to live to get the kyubi!

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right here is where he owns 6 tails!!!! then naruto cries because he is lost and the fox is about to be unleashed! then his dad comes and calms him down..

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right here is where he could of shinra tenseid his ass! xd

dude fact of the matter is that nagato killed himself and still till this day is undeafeted! fact!!! naruto had jman intel, village intel, 3 sage modes, 3 pre-summoned giant toads, ma & pa, hinata, kyubi 4tails, 6tails, and 8tails, mianto, and upon all that nagato was still standing his ground owning naruto! and nagato never summoned the gedou mazou!

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need i say more????...... nice try tho

 

[Draegod]

dude i am explaining reasonably idk why you are overreacting itachi can make a lot of flames with amaterasu remember he burned the entire ground with black flames so he can do that to deva pain and the absorber can't do anything to a burnt body.

i hear you on the burning whole ground thing, but pain destoyed a whole village solo with shinra tensei, and yet i/we didnt bring that up because it is irrelevant..

and like ol dude said, they will be in formation, and lets not forget that itachi's taijutsu is no where near sage jman and sage naruto with the added senjutsu behind it! dont get me wrong itachi s powerful, but 6 paths then nagato after that is too much for any ninja! not to mention the fact that nagato with all 6 paths in one body if he grabs you-you are as good as dead! (he can suck your soul!)

 

[Tupac]

Tupac Back! (in rick ross voice!lmao) i had to do it!

back on topic! lmao hahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahaxdxdxdxdxdxdxdxdxdxd

dude you cant be serius??? you really think naruto beat him fair and sqaure one on one?????

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right here the fight is over! he could have killed him but needed him to live to get the kyubi!

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right here is where he owns 6 tails!!!! then naruto cries because he is lost and the fox is about to be unleashed! then his dad comes and calms him down..

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right here is where he could of shinra tenseid his ass! xd

dude fact of the matter is that nagato killed himself and still till this day is undeafeted! fact!!! naruto had jman intel, village intel, 3 sage modes, 3 pre-summoned giant toads, ma & pa, hinata, kyubi 4tails, 6tails, and 8tails, mianto, and upon all that nagato was still standing his ground owning naruto! and nagato never summoned the gedou mazou!

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need i say more????...... nice try tho

lol i been back xd

true in fact naruto did have aid from everyone else. he did get intel from jman, and 9tails did help him defeat him. but the fact is the man is DEAD now. and he does have all that power. but did he really effiecently use it correctly. remember when he had blown that bigass hole in the leaf ? there was absoultely no need for that. that was a foolish mistake on his behalf. and what may seem to got him killed. because it took a big tole on him and his chakra.

and we will see what will happen to him in the up coming chapter. because naruto with rikudo is holding his ground against him and itachi atm.

 

[Draegod]

lol i been back xd

true in fact naruto did have aid from everyone else. he did get intel from jman, and 9tails did help him defeat him. but the fact is the man is DEAD now. and he does have all that power. but did he really effiecently use it correctly. remember when he had blown that bigass hole in the leaf ? there was absoultely no need for that. that was a foolish mistake on his behalf. and what may seem to got him killed. because it took a big tole on him and his chakra.

and we will see what will happen to him in the up coming chapter. because naruto with rikudo is holding his ground against him and itachi atm.

yea true, it wasnt neccisary to show off his power. but a statement had to been made! and i understand where he was coming from, since the leaf and other nations caused him so much pain, he had to pay them back!

if he would of known naruto was coming he would of probably saved his powers...

and atm i dont think naruto is doing anything but playing with pains dogs right now.lol nagato is chilling, itachi is the one getting all serius and shid.lol

 

[YIN YANG]

i hear you on the burning whole ground thing, but pain destoyed a whole village solo with shinra tensei, and yet i/we didnt bring that up because it is irrelevant..

and like ol dude said, they will be in formation, and lets not forget that itachi's taijutsu is no where near sage jman and sage naruto with the added senjutsu behind it! dont get me wrong itachi s powerful, but 6 paths then nagato after that is too much for any ninja! not to mention the fact that nagato with all 6 paths in one body if he grabs you-you are as good as dead! (he can suck your soul!)

finally

 

[Tupac]

yea true, it wasnt neccisary to show off his power. but a statement had to been made! and i understand where he was coming from, since the leaf and other nations caused him so much pain, he had to pay them back!

if he would of known naruto was coming he would of probably saved his powers...

and atm i dont think naruto is doing anything but playing with pains dogs right now.lol nagato is chilling, itachi is the one getting all serius and shid.lol

you mean kabuto ? he is the one the one dealing all the cards with edo tensi so to speak. i hate how kabuto feeds off everyone else. he has never established nothing for himself. he dosent have any battle storys. or any "rep". before he had got his hand on kabuto DNA he was nothing more than servant dog. capable of nothing but following oro orders. now it seems his mischevious ass some how knows madara "secrets" and is no playing a big factor in the war. that manipultative little bastard.

 

[warlee]

If he is healthy he can solo juubi, why did kishi had to cripple him w/ plot.he would have been on top,but kishi decided to cut his power by half,I wish he is healthy to show minato/itachi who is his d boss.

 

[YIN YANG]

pain looks like the victor until proven otherwise.:flaw::flaw:

 

[Anub]

i see where your coming from now..

but what you are forgetting is that muu want just go invisible and idle around, he will go for the kill asap! he will unleash dust techs (which are shown to be pretty fast), and force itachi (with his fast reaction) to activate susanoo since it will be the only thing to save him.

so right off the back itachi has to go susanoo (by logic, muu unleashes dust techs asap from what we can see.lol). that right there will play a hugeeeeeeee toll (itachi had MS for 4+ years and was strait but on the verge of sickness and blindness, sasuke had ms for about 3-4 days and went blind because the ms techs were to much for him and he did not no how to rely on his regular powers like itachi can..), but it seems itachi hates being in susanoo (hell i would too to tell the truth.lol), and muu could use his other techs aswell...

you say itachi could create water every where (like kisame i presume?) or "creat a desert", when it hasnt been shown that he could do anything even close to that. plus if a ninja creates water, muu could either 1)fire it to create steam to really afect there visoin or 2) dust tech it to be non existant again.lol itachi and most water ninjas need a water sorce around to do good water techs. tahts why kisame keeps it with in.lol

muu is a legend that was around during the uchia era, im sure he knows not to look into an uchias eyes.lol and ameratsu im not worried abot because he could just use dust to change the battle feild to make it move or something of that nature.

one question tho! who do you have over muu besiseds hashirama, madara/tobi, kabuto, naruto, sasuke, itachi, minato, Bee, A, nagato/pain..??? i want to see just out of curiosity, because i beleive there are some ninjas that are a bad match up for him (like gaara, kisame maybe) but i want to see what rank yo have him sitting at and who you put above him..

I will not reply to the majority of your post, seeing how you have your arguments and I will only contradict them with my own based on my opinion on how this fight between Itachi and Muu will go. But that would stray off topic and also I am not assuming that my way is the only way that a fight can go. There is a good change I am right and a good chance you are right in this debate and I suggest we leave it like that as far as Itachi vs Muu goes, at least until we have some more info on Muu.

To answer your question now...My list of shinobi that have a higher than 50% chance of defeating Muu :

Hashirama
Madara/Tobi
Kabuto (only if he uses IWR though, but never in a 1vs1 fair fight in which they both start with no preparations)
Naruto
Sasuke
Minato
Itachi
Nagato
Gaara
Tsuchikage (student surpassing his master)
Tobirama (I've put him because he can sense enemies by touching the ground)
Hiruzen (said to have surpassed his previous, that's good enough for me; also knows a huge number of jutsus)
Danzo (izanagi should do the trick)
Jirayia (in sage mode, he would 1. sense Muu and 2.use sound genjutsu and Muu would be caught easily)
Kakuzu (Muu will need to avoid all elements and he would give out his position if he kills one of his hearts)

Still left with a question mark are (unsure whether they would win or lose against him):

A and B - I don't believe they can properly counter Muu, despite them being stronger and faster.
Kakashi - It's a matter of quickdraw. Invisibility vs Kamui. Also kakashi has that mist thing he learned from Zabuza and sniffing dogs. Might work.
Kisame - would the water bubble suffice ?
Sasori - Iron sand+ puppets? Depends if Muu knows about his weak spot or not.
current Mizukage - as we saw against Sasuke, she's got some tricks up her sleeves.

Honorable mentions (would do good against him, but won't win) :

Neji would do good against him just by being a byakugan user, Hizashi as well, Deidara might do some damage because he flies, but will need to self-destruct and end in a draw at best.

 

[Draegod]

I will not reply to the majority of your post, seeing how you have your arguments and I will only contradict them with my own based on my opinion on how this fight between Itachi and Muu will go. But that would stray off topic and also I am not assuming that my way is the only way that a fight can go. There is a good change I am right and a good chance you are right in this debate and I suggest we leave it like that as far as Itachi vs Muu goes, at least until we have some more info on Muu.

To answer your question now...My list of shinobi that have a higher than 50% chance of defeating Muu :

Hashirama
Madara/Tobi
Kabuto (only if he uses IWR though, but never in a 1vs1 fair fight in which they both start with no preparations)
Naruto
Sasuke
Minato
Itachi
Nagato
Gaara
Tsuchikage (student surpassing his master)
Tobirama (I've put him because he can sense enemies by touching the ground)
Hiruzen (said to have surpassed his previous, that's good enough for me; also knows a huge number of jutsus)
Danzo (izanagi should do the trick)
Jirayia (in sage mode, he would 1. sense Muu and 2.use sound genjutsu and Muu would be caught easily)
Kakuzu (Muu will need to avoid all elements and he would give out his position if he kills one of his hearts)

Still left with a question mark are (unsure whether they would win or lose against him):

A and B - I don't believe they can properly counter Muu, despite them being stronger and faster.
Kakashi - It's a matter of quickdraw. Invisibility vs Kamui. Also kakashi has that mist thing he learned from Zabuza and sniffing dogs. Might work.
Kisame - would the water bubble suffice ?
Sasori - Iron sand+ puppets? Depends if Muu knows about his weak spot or not.
current Mizukage - as we saw against Sasuke, she's got some tricks up her sleeves.

Honorable mentions (would do good against him, but won't win) :

Neji would do good against him just by being a byakugan user, Hizashi as well, Deidara might do some damage because he flies, but will need to self-destruct and end in a draw at best.

I don't agree with jman, 1) because one dust tech is instant ko! 2) muu wipes his chakra and PRESENCE from the world! As in no sniffing or sensing what so ever! But the gen song should do the trick, except 1) it takes awhile to do 2) muu has wind which is proven to best sound. Same with the mist tech..

Kisame and the others would just get destroyed by dust tech..

Danzou prob could win..

I don't see the 3rd winning at alll! 0 chance at all! Lol

Bee could just tbb the field..

Sasori could poison the air, so could hanzou..

Overall
I just want you to respect the guy, and I honestly see him in top ten. But then again it's just my opinion and yours aswell, but I respect and like to hear what you think

 

[khaydz5]

lol i been back xd

true in fact naruto did have aid from everyone else. he did get intel from jman, and 9tails did help him defeat him. but the fact is the man is DEAD now. and he does have all that power. but did he really effiecently use it correctly. remember when he had blown that bigass hole in the leaf ? there was absoultely no need for that. that was a foolish mistake on his behalf. and what may seem to got him killed. because it took a big tole on him and his chakra.

and we will see what will happen to him in the up coming chapter. because naruto with rikudo is holding his ground against him and itachi atm.

naruto is the main character. OFCOURSE he will defeat anyone! that's a no brainer there dude. you don't need to explain everything. the reason why naruto won is because he is the main character. get it

 

[Anub]

I don't agree with jman, 1) because one dust tech is instant ko! 2) muu wipes his chakra and PRESENCE from the world! As in no sniffing or sensing what so ever! But the gen song should do the trick, except 1) it takes awhile to do 2) muu has wind which is proven to best sound. Same with the mist tech..

Kisame and the others would just get destroyed by dust tech..

Danzou prob could win..

I don't see the 3rd winning at alll! 0 chance at all! Lol

Bee could just tbb the field..

Sasori could poison the air, so could hanzou..

Overall
I just want you to respect the guy, and I honestly see him in top ten. But then again it's just my opinion and yours aswell, but I respect and like to hear what you think

I do respect the guy, but as you can see I would classify him in the top20, not top10. It's good enough though.

 

[khaydz5]

dude itachi wont use genjutsu on pain bodies and how can the hunger pain absorb amaterasu which is towards deva pain the absorber guy is not that fast amaterasu is an instant attack and deva pain can't dodge it.so after deva pain is taken down then all he needs is taijustsu and his regular ninjustsu like all his firestyle.

you sir, are what you called the ultimate fanboy.

fuk off if you think one amaterasu will be enough to stop any paths of pain. 1st off draegod is right that amaterasu burns slowly and the target is not instantly incinerated. if amaterasu caught a living body, it can immobilize them with pain.. but pain's body do not feel anything, even if you burn them, they will feel nothing, any moment hungry ghost can just suck that up or god realm can even shinra tensei that away.

you're forgetting about those huge summons which itachi don't have! how can he taijutsu those monster? explain!

you're also forgetting the one that can revive the bodies of pain, that is good at taijutsu also...

how about the pain that can shoot missles and lazors.. how can itachi counter that?

the pain that can suck your soul out if got caught..

all of them will come to itachi at the same time, don't EVER think that they will attack one at a time, that will make you smell like shit!

 

[Inception]

calm down, dont get defensive over this, not worth it. I just asked u questions and told u my answers. Maybe you know its true aand thays why u got upset.

lol @ your last sentence, I'm not upset. Just find it hilarious how much bullshit you make up. Let me show you.

Just some of things i noticed I though Id put out. Theres more but no point if your gona argure facts like these.

Genjutsu and the 6 paths has already been looked in by kishi. Nagato didnt get caught in genjutsu thats how he summoned more pains to kill jiraiya. All genjutsu attacks the brain, plz stop argueing this. Your making ur self look stupid.

Nagato attacked AFTER Jiraiya ended the genjutsu and destroyed 3 bodies. Why? Because for the remainder of the genjutsu, Nagato was trapped. Do you not see the quote "you got me." in the manga? Furthermore, if Nagato was not stuck, he would not let 3 of his bodies get destroyed. Who's looking stupid now?

White zetsu was cluess about sassano completely but black zetsu mentioned he recogonised the legendary weapons, so therefore sassano and the legendary weapons have no relation.

The bit about the shield was just using logic, sassano takes damage and the user has to repair it using their chakra. And in itachi's state he needed to save as much chakra as possible for top level fights.

Can't believe you're this ignorant. I don't even know why you're mentioning the relations between Susano'o and the items because everyone knows that there is none. Black Zetsu KNEW what the legendary items were. Are you not able to read? The bit about the shield was just logic?? Here, I'll provide source. Please read carefully; Zetsu seems to even know that Oro was searching for it ALL HIS LIFE. Given that Zetsu did not have prior knowledge of Susano'o, he however knew what the items were exactly and it was no general knowledge, he knew the items up to the names. Stfu please.

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Shinra tensei/chiku tensei overpowers opponents, forget about the speed. They are large scale and dont need to be fast. The sharingan techs are all small scale and things like speed is important. And they can easily overpower sassano. Take it or leave.

Really? Sharingan techniques are small scale and speed is important? Last I checked, Amaterasu by sick Itachi burned the entire forest around the Uchiha base, so much for a small scale attack. Since when does Susano'o require speed? It pretty much acts like a stronger version of a summoned creature. It's fast, has almost invincible defense and great attack power. Shinra Tensei can overpower Susano'o... Well even if it did, there's no way it's getting past Yata Mirror. You do know that there's a time limit in which Nagato can cast Shinra/ Chibaku Tensei, right? He can't keep spamming it on massive scale or even keep it up continously. Also, since you're a fan, you obviously know how slow Chibaku Tensei is. It requires God Realm to stand still while being cast. Oh and let's not forget about how all of the paths are "disabled" after he casts the massive Shinra Tensei not to mention his God Realm powers.

And when u write things like kirin is stronger than shira tesei or chika tensei, its hurts you alot. Dont write things like that dude.

KIRIN IS FASTER THAN CHIBAKU TENSEI AND PROBABLY CAUSES MORE DAMAGE AS IT HITS. IT IS UNAVOIDABLE. People hype Chibaku Tensei too much. Yes Chibaku Tensei is a very powerful technique but as much as I hate Sasuke, Kirin still is the better jutsu in damage and speed. It's unavoidable.

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Madara got the rinnegan, when he already had ems. Thats not irreevalnt when it comes to someone wanting to a god and talk over the world. If sharingan was good enought madara wouldnt have gone into the trouble.

Madara used Nagato as a pawn. He has said that he is the one who gave Nagato his Rinnegan which can be true in some way. Madara was AFRAID of Itachi. Find the chapter where Zetsu says something along the lines of "now that Itachi's out of your way...". Stop using Madara as your defense, it's not working. Madara also possesses the Sharingan originally; he has been surviving and leading Akatsuki, not to mention ordering Nagato around like a lap dog, with the "not so powerful" Sharingan. If I had access to both the Sharingan and Rinnegan in a war, I would use both, that's why he took the Rinnegan. The Rinnegan is also one of the paths along with Sharingan. Please use logic.

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- Madara's fear of Itachi. There's another chapter where he's talking with Zetsu about Itachi. Find it yourself.

The rest of the stuff is just u being rude and childish. Saying I havent read this and that, my knowledge dwarfs yours if you cant even remember what zetsu said and didn't say about sassano.

I remembered what Zetsu said. Black Zetsu never said anything about Susano'o, yes, but he mentioned every detail about the 2 items.

I feel as if responding to you is a waste of time.

I already told you, Nagato cannot get through Itachi's defense. He is also weak vs. genjutsu especially due to shared vision. Nagato, however, is able to outlast Itachi because of his massive chakra unless he's killed by Tsukiyomi or sealed by Totsuka Blade.

 

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lol @ your last sentence, Nagato cannot get through Itachi's defense. He is also weak vs. genjutsu especially due to shared vision. Nagato, however, is able to outlast Itachi because of his massive chakra unless he's killed by Tsukiyomi or sealed by Totsuka Blade.

What you said about pain not being able to get through itachi defense is not true pain shinra tensai should be able to do the job.:flaw: