Nagato can easily break Tsukuyomi

[Scooby Doo]

Wiki and data book confirmed this u need both to break tsukyomi.

You mean to break tsukoyomi you need sharingan and Uchiha blood? But I just linked the manga page on which the 'precious' naruwiki and databook are based, and the manga says only that tsukoyomi is unbeatable, says nothing about a sharingan user with Uchiha blood breaking it. But it can be the translation's fault, or Kishi has to clear it up too...

 

[IzunaUchiha2]

good theory

 

[destined 2 win]

Nagato can be easily handled by Itachi.Because Itachi has sufficient time of 5 seconds to kick Nagato's ass after Nagato dodging even a single Kunai thrown at him and Itachi is best in timing attack.
Nagato can fight equally with Itachi if that 5 second interval wasn't there.

are u mad bro. nagato took impact from K.M naruto and still survive to **** naruto. and btw who dies form kunai in naruto manga these days.xd

 

[Scooby Doo]

u r wrong dude. all path of pain were affected. and jiraiya also managed to kill 3 paths that he had seen. he didnt knew there were 6 peoples. so he thought he killed all pain (3 pain path he knew) bt he didnt knew there were 6 pain . so once he thought he killed all of them he stopped the genjutus and so the rest became free to revive the dead one and attack jiraiya

How do you know at all that all 6 paths were activated and heard the genjutsu? Besides its different with sound and visual genjutsus. If sound genjutsu affects only one path, the others are not affected because their hearing/ears are not connected, but with visual genjutsu the eyes are connected , so in this case i can imagine all affected, but its debatable and those who say eventhat with dojutsu only the one(s) seeing it are affected, can be right.

 

[destined 2 win]

to all the itachi fan boy who thinks uchihaa's power cant be beaten , well dont forget every jutsu has a weakness.it would be unfair if uchihaa's power cant be countered by non uchihaa. just look at hashi vs ems madara fight. well u guys accept that if noob sasuke has grown enough to learn tsukuyomi then ems madara was even pro than itachi to use tsukuyomi for sure. hence why didnt he tusukyomi,susanoo, amatersu the hashi and pawned him in 5 sec. well opp happen which mean tsukyomi can be countered and it's for sure countered by hashi otherwise he wouldnt had won that epic fight to tell u kids his tales.

 

[destined 2 win]

How do you know at all that all 6 paths were activated and heard the genjutsu? Besides its different with sound and visual genjutsus. If sound genjutsu affects only one path, the others are not affected because their hearing/ears are not connected, but with visual genjutsu the eyes are connected , so in this case i can imagine all affected, but its debatable and those who say eventhat with dojutsu only the one(s) seeing it are affected, can be right.

i clearly remeber the fight, all path of pains that were shown at that were affected and every one's mind was ringing. and the main fact is that since all were contorolled by only nagato , hence when even one of them got trapped in genjutsu its the real nagato's mind who get affected , not the dead 6 puppets. hence hit 1 path of pain with genjutus it will affect nagato and which inturn affect all path of pain.

 

[Scooby Doo]

to all the itachi fan boy who thinks uchihaa's power cant be beaten , well dont forget every jutsu has a weakness.it would be unfair if uchihaa's power cant be countered by non uchihaa. just look at hashi vs ems madara fight. well u guys accept that if noob sasuke has grown enough to learn tsukuyomi then ems madara was even pro than itachi to use tsukuyomi for sure. hence why didnt he tusukyomi,susanoo, amatersu the hashi and pawned him in 5 sec. well opp happen which mean tsukyomi can be countered and it's for sure countered by hashi otherwise he wouldnt had won that epic fight to tell u kids his tales.

I just checked on you, and now your attitude makes sense...but just because being the member of senju/uzumaki peace squad, it doesnt mean you have to be a hater, and flaming others. But yes, Madara's tsukoyomi/amaterasu/maybe kamui is yet to be seen .

 

[destined 2 win]

I just checked on you, and now your attitude makes sense...but just because being the member of senju/uzumaki peace squad, it doesnt mean you have to be a hater, and flaming others. But yes, Madara's tsukoyomi/amaterasu/maybe kamui is yet to be seen .

omg who told u i am frm senju/uzumaki peace squad . even i didnt knew that. and by the way i hate itachi over rated and edo itachi defeating S.M kabuto. that really sucked.

 

[Scooby Doo]

omg who told u i am frm senju/uzumaki peace squad . even i didnt knew that. and by the way i hate itachi over rated and edo itachi defeating S.M kabuto. that really sucked.

Your group membership on your profile did
And Kishi had to stop the war somehow, but yeah he came up with quite a troll idea.

 

[iMicLykTyson]

You mean to break tsukoyomi you need sharingan and Uchiha blood? But I just linked the manga page on which the 'precious' naruwiki and databook are based, and the manga says only that tsukoyomi is unbeatable, says nothing about a sharingan user with Uchiha blood breaking it. But it can be the translation's fault, or Kishi has to clear it up too...

If you to treat the requirement of needing uchiha blood and sharingan as only a way to defeat itachi fine. But Wiki talks about tsukyomi (at least Itachi's tsukyomi) not itachi.

 

[LoGaL]

Ehem It's not good to compare Sasuke Tsukyomi to Itachi's one since as stated by Danzou himself Sasuke's one does not alter Time and Space perception and is therefore pathetic
Moreover bee kroke the tsukyomi due to the hachibi inside him

Depends on whether we are talking about the six paths of pain or edo-nagato: When Jiraya used the frong genjutsu to trap the 3 paths the jutsu himself evidently didn't work on the real nagato: we can assume that the tsukyomi wont work either even if nagato perceves everything every path sees, hears, smells ecc ecc
We need also to determine if the tsukyomi produced by itachi can work on multiple people at the same time like is supposed to do the mugen tsukyomi which probably requires an abnormous amount of chakra
Edo-Nagato might fall under tsukyomi influence but i highly doubt that he will allow itachi to tsukyomi 1 shot him and he could be able to break it using the rinnegan ( not confirmed!!)

 

[Scooby Doo]

If you to treat the requirement of needing uchiha blood and sharingan as only a way to defeat itachi fine. But Wiki talks about tsukyomi not itachi.

What? Sorry if i seem stupid just explain it more detailed pls. If in the manga Itachi clearly says that tsukoyomi is unbeatable, and doesnt say that a sharingan user with uchiha blood can break it, then I dont care what narutopedia says. Just because two statements follow each other, it doesnt mean the first one refers to the other, and in this case the statements are two different sentences in two different textbubbles, and one has to do almost nothing with the other, because defeating Itachi and breaking Tsukoyomi are not the same and Itachi says his tsukoyomi cannot be beaten, neither by an uchiha with sharingan.

 

[Champ]

Why are retards still arguing against the manga Itachi already said if you not a clansman of his with the Sharingan you can't break his Tsukuyomi

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[iMicLykTyson]

What? Sorry if i seem stupid just explain it more detailed pls. If in the manga Itachi clearly says that tsukoyomi is unbeatable, and doesnt say that a sharingan user with uchiha blood can break it, then I dont care what narutopedia says. Just because two statements follow each other, it doesnt mean the first one refers to the other, and in this case the statements are two different sentences in two different textbubbles, and one has to do almost nothing with the other, because defeating Itachi and breaking Tsukoyomi are not the same and Itachi says his tsukoyomi cannot be beaten, neither by an uchiha with sharingan.

It didn't say that it can't be beaten by an uchiha/sharingan he only say it can't be defeated. Any statement about how a technique can't be defeated should not be taken as canon, you said the need if sharingan/uchiha blood is needed to beat itachi which is what the manga sad right. But wiki talks about the technique tsukyomi not about itachi. Tsukyomi alone and these requirements are stated there. It would also make sense for these requirements to be able to defeat tsukyomi because sasuke was able to overcome it yet kakashi couldn't the diff between kakashi and sasuke under tsukyomi is the bloodline.

 

[FPS]

I don't think anyone can EASILY break tsukiyomi...Breaking it is one thing. It being easy is another

 

[Scooby Doo]

Why are retards still arguing against the manga Itachi already said if you not a clansman of his with the Sharingan you can't break his Tsukuyomi

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Where do you see on this manga page Itachi saying that a clansmen with sharingan can break tsukoyomi?

It didn't say that it can't be beaten by an uchiha/sharingan he only say it can't be defeated. Any statement about how a technique can't be defeated should not be taken as canon, you said the need if sharingan/uchiha blood is needed to beat itachi which is what the manga sad right. But wiki talks about the technique tsukyomi not about itachi. Tsukyomi alone and these requirements are stated there. It would also make sense for these requirements to be able to defeat tsukyomi because sasuke was able to overcome it yet kakashi couldn't the diff between kakashi and sasuke under tsukyomi is the bloodline.

And what if Itachi just let sasuke escape tsukoyomi, we know that he didnt want to kill him and Tobi also said this to Sasuke .
And I'm trying to explain you for quite a long time now to read that page properly. Itachi says :" My illusion jutsu tsukoyomi cannot be beaten" which means it cannot be broken. Then he says: "Only a sharingan user with the same blood as me can defeat me". Why do you connect these two different statements and mix the meaning of them?

 

[Champ]

Where do you see on this manga page Itachi saying that a clansmen with sharingan can break tsukoyomi?





And what if Itachi just let sasuke escape tsukoyomi, we know that he didnt want to kill him and Tobi also said this to Sasuke .
And I'm trying to explain you for quite a long time now to read that page properly. Itachi says :" My illusion jutsu tsukoyomi cannot be beaten" which means it cannot be broken. Then he says: "Only a sharingan user with the same blood as me can defeat me". Why do you connect these two different statements and mix the meaning of them?

^ the Retard I was speaking of and Itachi said only a Sharingan user with the same blood as me, do you not know every uchiha is a clansmen of Itachi

 

[iMicLykTyson]

Where do you see on this manga page Itachi saying that a clansmen with sharingan can break tsukoyomi?





And what if Itachi just let sasuke escape tsukoyomi, we know that he didnt want to kill him and Tobi also said this to Sasuke .
And I'm trying to explain you for quite a long time now to read that page properly. Itachi says :" My illusion jutsu tsukoyomi cannot be beaten" which means it cannot be broken. Then he says: "Only a sharingan user with the same blood as me can defeat me". Why do you connect these two different statements and mix the meaning of them?

Lol u say he is talking about him been defeat u need uchiha/sharigan, not that tsukyomi needs sharingan or uchiha blood. Agreed but wiki talks about the tech not about the requirements needed for defeating itachi but about requirements to dispel tsukyomi It is really easy to understand Wiki talks about tsukyomi nothing else. No requirements for defeating itachi. Only tsukyomi nothing else and on this page only tsukyomi as a tech nothing about itachi what so ever. it lists the requirement to dispel tsukyomi as uchiha bloodline/sharingan. Again it talks about only tsukyomi not itachi himself.

Tsukyomi can be defeated even itachi said that every tech has a weakness to dwell on the fact that it is undefeatable Is false no tech is undefeatable.

 

[Scooby Doo]

^ the Retard I was speaking of and Itachi said only a Sharingan user with the same blood as me, do you not know every uchiha is a clansmen of Itachi

I dont know to whom youre referring as a retard, but anyway I think its flaming...
And how many times I have to repeat myself. On this manga page Itachi says that his tsukoyomi cannot be beaten. Then again, where does it say that a clansman with sharingan can break tsukoyomi? :itachi: says that a clansmen with the same blood can defeat him, but nowhere says that canbreak tsukoyomi. Itachi refers to sasuke, as he was the only one who survived, and Itachi wanted Sasuke to get the MS.And said sasuke that he can beat him only with the same eyes, the mangekyou. Though later Kakashi also awakened the mangekyou, Itachi was surprised when Kakashi referred to it, Itachi didnt expect that, though of course kakashi's MS still couldnt beat Itachi's, nor could Sasuke's normal sharingan, thats why Itachi wanted Sasuke to awaken the mangekyou.

Lol u say he is talking about him been defeat not that tsukyomi needs sharingan or uchiha blood. Agreed but wiki talks about the tech not about the requirements needed for defeating itachi but about requirements to dispel tsukyomi It is really easy to understand Wiki talks about tsukyomi nothing else. No requirements for defeating itachi. Only tsukyomi nothing else and on this page abide only tsukyomi as a tech it lists the requirement to dispel tsukyomi as uchiha bloodline/sharingan.

Tsukyomi can be defeated even itachi said that every tech has a weakness to dwell on the fact that it is undefeatable Is false not tech is undefeatable.

Then Itachi contradicted himself: once he said that his tsukoyomi cannot be beaten, then he said that every jutsu can be countered...but its not the first time that Kishi is not clear...

 

[Champ]

I dont know to whom youre referring as a retard, but anyway I think its flaming...
And how many times I have to repeat myself. On this manga page Itachi says that his tsukoyomi cannot be beaten. Then again, where does it say that a clansman with sharingan can break tsukoyomi? :itachi: says that a clansmen with the same blood can defeat him, but nowhere says that canbreak tsukoyomi. Itachi refers to sasuke, as he was the only one who survived, and Itachi wanted Sasuke to get the MS.And said sasuke that he can beat him only with the same eyes, the mangekyou. Though later Kakashi also awakened the mangekyou, Itachi was surprised when Kakashi referred to it, Itachi didnt expect that, though of course kakashi's MS still couldnt beat Itachi's, nor could Sasuke's normal sharingan, thats why Itachi wanted Sasuke to awaken the mangekyou.

Did you not read that chapter before Itachi had just put Kakashi under his Tsukuyomi then itachi said only a clansman with the sharingan can break it