Nagato can easily break Tsukuyomi

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I dont know to whom youre referring as a retard, but anyway I think its flaming...
And how many times I have to repeat myself. On this manga page Itachi says that his tsukoyomi cannot be beaten. Then again, where does it say that a clansman with sharingan can break tsukoyomi? :itachi: says that a clansmen with the same blood can defeat him, but nowhere says that canbreak tsukoyomi. Itachi refers to sasuke, as he was the only one who survived, and Itachi wanted Sasuke to get the MS.And said sasuke that he can beat him only with the same eyes, the mangekyou. Though later Kakashi also awakened the mangekyou, Itachi was surprised when Kakashi referred to it, Itachi didnt expect that, though of course kakashi's MS still couldnt beat Itachi's, nor could Sasuke's normal sharingan, thats why Itachi wanted Sasuke to awaken

Then Itachi contradicted himself: once he said that his tsukoyomi cannot be beaten, then he said that every jutsu can be countered...but its not the first time that Kishi is not clear...

But it was made clear in wiki whic follows data book which is written by kishi. U need to be uchiha/ have a sharingan to dispel tsukyomi.
 

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Did you not read that chapter before Itachi had just put Kakashi under his Tsukuyomi then itachi said only a clansman with the sharingan can break it

I read the chapter and I nowhere read that a clansmen with sharingan can break tsukoyomi. Sorry, link it maybe I just skipped it...

But it was made clear in wiki whic follows data book which is written by kishi. U need to be uchiha/ have a sharingan to dispel tsukyomi.

Then Kishi contradicts himself, or he's just not clear, and as I said and you know it too, because last time you agreed with me that izanagi needs no senju dna, that Kishi later says something that seems to contradict his previous statement, he cannot write down everything in the databook, cause then we would know for example. what would happen
 

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I read the chapter and I nowhere read that a clansmen with sharingan can break tsukoyomi. Sorry, link it maybe I just skipped it...



Then Kishi contradicts himself, or he's just not clear, and as I said and you know it too, because last time you agreed with me that izanagi needs no senju dna, that Kishi later says something that seems to contradict his previous statement, he cannot write down everything in the databook, cause then we would know for example. what would happen

Do you know what clansmen mean
 

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Do you know what clansmen mean

Yeah I know, i'm not that stupid:) But I asked you to link the manga page where its said that a clansmen with sharingan can break tsukoyomi.
 

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Yeah I know, i'm not that stupid:) But I asked you to link the manga page where its said that a clansmen with sharingan can break tsukoyomi.

Itachi is apart of the Uchiha clan so everybody who is a Uchiha is a clansmen of his, if they all possess the Sharingan they have the potential to break out of his Tsukuyomi like Sasuke why because they all possess the same bloodline as him
 

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I read the chapter and I nowhere read that a clansmen with sharingan can break tsukoyomi. Sorry, link it maybe I just skipped it...



Then Kishi contradicts himself, or he's just not clear, and as I said and you know it too, because last time you agreed with me that izanagi needs no senju dna, that Kishi later says something that seems to contradict his previous statement, he cannot write down everything in the databook, cause then we would know for example. what would happen

Kishi did contradict himself
My reasons.
Do u believe tsukyomi is undefeatable?
If it is defeatable wiki made it clear what is needed to defeat it.
You said it ur self that manga page did not touch on tsukyomi only on the fact that it is undefeatable (which is wrong cuz this same itachi says that no tech is invisible )
Basically he boasted about tsukyomi
All I have said makes sense. If it is undefeatable how come he said only an uchiha with sharingan can defeat him(while tsukyomi is undefeatable)
His statement about tsukyomi in that page is invalid.
What is valid is what comes from wiki/data book the requirements to defeat tsukyomi head on. Every tech has a weakness, tsukyomi is defeat able
 
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Itachi is apart of the Uchiha clan so everybody who is a Uchiha is a clansmen of his, if they all possess the Sharingan they have the potential to break out of his Tsukuyomi like Sasuke why because they all possess the same bloodline as him

Sasuke broke out of tsukoyomi only because Itachi didnt want to kill him, so let him escape tsukoyomi. And you still havent linked me the manga page where it is said that a clansmen with sharingan can break tsukoyomi.
 

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Sasuke broke out of tsukoyomi only because Itachi didnt want to kill him, so let him escape tsukoyomi. And you still havent linked me the manga page where it is said that a clansmen with sharingan can break tsukoyomi.

Sasuke broke out of Itachi Tsukuyomi whether you wanna believe it or not. In this pic Itachi said a Sharingan user with the same blood as him do the Uchiha's not have the same bloodline as Itachi? Do they not have the potential bto awaken the Sharingan?
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Sasuke broke out of Itachi Tsukuyomi whether you wanna believe it or not. In this pic Itachi said a Sharingan user with the same blood as him do the Uchiha's not have the same bloodline as Itachi? Do they not have the potential bto awaken the Sharingan?
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Here Itachi says that a clansman with sharingan can defeat him, nowhere says that a clansman can break out of tsukoyomi.
 

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Here Itachi says that a clansman with sharingan can defeat him, nowhere says that a clansman can break out of tsukoyomi.

Even tho that whole chapter was talkin about the true heir of the Sharingan and tsukuyomi let's say it wasn't. Isn't defeating Itachi doin both breaking out of strongest genjutsu and owning him? If you can't break out of his Tsukuyomi he can't defeat him
 

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Even tho that whole chapter was talkin about the true heir of the Sharingan and tsukuyomi let's say it wasn't. Isn't defeating Itachi doin both breaking out of strongest genjutsu and owning him?

No, if Itachi clearly says that his tsukoyomi cannot be beaten, and that he didnt want to kill sasuke. Even Tobi said that if Itachi was serious, Sasuke would be dead.
 

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Even tho that whole chapter was talkin about the true heir of the Sharingan and tsukuyomi let's say it wasn't. Isn't defeating Itachi doin both breaking out of strongest genjutsu and owning him? If you can't break out of his Tsukuyomi he can't defeat him

Tsukuyomi one shot yeahhhhh

Lol tell that to Kabuto and Hashirama and stop thinking your smart because your not at all
 

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No, if Itachi clearly says that his tsukoyomi cannot be beaten, and that he didnt want to kill sasuke. Even Tobi said that if Itachi was serious, Sasuke would be dead.
Ofcourse Sasuke would've been dead, Sasuke couldn't deal with his Susano'o. Itachi Tsukuyomi could be broken by a clansmen with the Sharingan

Tsukuyomi one shot yeahhhhh

Lol tell that to Kabuto and Hashirama and stop thinking your smart because your not at all

Didn't kabuto already lose to Itachi and Hashirama never got hit by his Tsukuyomi
 

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Ofcourse Sasuke would've been dead, Sasuke couldn't deal with his Susano'o. Itachi Tsukuyomi could be broken by a clansmen with the Sharingan



Didn't kabuto already lose to Itachi and Hashirama never got hit by his Tsukuyomi

Yeah with Izanami but why didnt Itachi just use Tsukuyomi on him the fight would of ended much sooner

One shot yeahhhh

Madara fought Hashirama and he should of just used his one one shot Tsukuyomi yeahhhh
 

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Ofcourse Sasuke would've been dead, Sasuke couldn't deal with his Susano'o. Itachi Tsukuyomi could be broken by a clansmen with the Sharingan

Still not proven, the manga nowhere says it as far as I know.
 

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Yeah with Izanami but why didnt Itachi just use Tsukuyomi on him the fight would of ended much sooner

One shot yeahhhh

Madara fought Hashirama and he should of just used his one one shot Tsukuyomi yeahhhh
Didn't Kabuto block his vision and where and the Manga did it say Madara Tsukuyomi could alter time like Itachi's

Still not proven, the manga nowhere says it as far as I know.

It was already proven
 

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Didn't Kabuto block his vision and where and the Manga did it say Madara Tsukuyomi could alter time like Itachi's



It was already proven

Where? When? By whom? You couldnt show me a manga page where it says that a clansman with sharingan can break tsukoyomi.
 

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Where? When? By whom? You couldnt show me a manga page where it says that a clansman with sharingan can break tsukoyomi.

Haha why do I have to keep babying you, you should read the manga and you would know anyway when Sasuke a clansmen broke out of his Tsukuyomi
 

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Didn't Kabuto block his vision and where and the Manga did it say Madara Tsukuyomi could alter time like Itachi's



It was already proven

He has the illusionary technique Tsukuyomi it shouldnt be able to be countered

Tsukuyomi one shot and its over

Hashirama must of told Madara not to use Tsukuyomi as it was unfair the kyubbi yes but Tsukuyomi unfair
 

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Haha why do I have to keep babying you, you should read the manga and you would know anyway when Sasuke a clansmen broke out of his Tsukuyomi

Yeah but he broke out only because Itachi wanted him to , and wanted him to push to his limits so that Orochimaru would come out and then Itachi could seal Oro and then awaken sasuke's mangekyou then die and Sasuke becoming a hero killing him. You should read the manga too...But yeah practically Sasuke escaped Tsukoyomi, but not because he could break it just because Itachi let him. How is it so hard to understand? And the manga page both you and I linked, nowhere says that a clansmen can break out from tsukoyomi, but it says that tsukoyomi cannot be beaten. Its a fact. Admit it please.
 
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