Muu or Oonoki are the strongest Kages ever.

[Nikes]

you cant believe that...

What technique has a Kage used that is stronger, and can defend against Dust Release/

 

[Mante]

Well, not the strongest but one of the strongest.

 

[LolaxXx]

You're right

They are the strongest.

well, regardless, they would still lose to hashi, simple truth.

 

[Nikes]

well, regardless, they would still lose to hashi, simple truth.

Strategy can always beat the strongest. Duh, that's why I said Hashi or Minato are the best. Just not the strongest.


Read the title again, it's so easy to pull ppl into this shit.

 

[Cerox0]

Muu died to 2nd Mizukage.

Madara rofl stomped both Muu and Onoki.

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[Nikes]

Muu died to 2nd Mizukage.

Madara rofl stomped both Muu and Onoki.

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Madara said against a child.. So he was child strength buddy.

 

[Cerox0]

Madara said against a child.. So he was child strength buddy.

And Madara went easy on them?

Had they'd been stronger Madara would have simply tried. (maybe).

 

[ascension1138]

Muu and Oonoki are the strongest Kages of all time, besting Hashirama, Hiruzen and the 3rd Raikage.

Dust release and a convenient flying ability matched with superb doton puts them above the rest

Mokuton is childs play to Dust Release. Same goes for the 3rds lightning shield or w.e

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I don't even understand in the manga why the kages thought that only oonoki could deal with Muu because of his dust release. I mean it is strong and they were both ****ing powerful, but there all several ninja not even mentioning Madara who could defeat them.

 

[lol99]

muu and oonoki are one of the strongest

Madara said against a child.. So he was child strength buddy.

lol Muu seems to be an adult doesnt he? or is he a child too?

 

[Nikes]

And Madara went easy on them?

Had they'd been stronger Madara would have simply tried. (maybe).

If they were stronger who knows how that would have ended up.

muu and oonoki are one of the strongest

lol Muu seems to be an adult doesnt he? or is he a child too?

I don't know. bandages are covering mayne

 

[yellow flash94]

Dust release is one of the strongest techniques in narutoverse,yes but as itachi claimed every technique has it's own flaw and weakness.

So lets consider the Dust release's flaws:

1)It takes time to create the three-dimensional object,as evident from below:

how naruto jumped of the sand and extended his chakra arms and even then dust release could not be fired,as it takes time to create the shape-manipulation required.

2)It can be halted prematurely if one were to attack the users hand during this time,as quoted in narutopedia.

3)It is highly chakra-taxing and it can be assumed that there is an upperhand limit to the no. of times it caan be performed.


Now that's about the weakness of the technique,now lets see the ways to counter it:

1)Any sufficiently fast shinobi can get outside the reach of this technique as seen from the case when tobi saved sasuke at the 5-kage summit.

And thats even considering the sluggishness of his S-T jutsu.Hell Minato could dodge it easily,so it is assumable that so can the 3rd and 4th raikage in their lightning release armour.

Any technique that is fast enough to interfere with technique before it is complete can render it useless.


Now lets consider the fact that EMS madara had soloed both onoki and muu means that the dust had been countered effectively.ManIt isn't that they didn't have dust release at that time,it was just innefective.

So if it was not effective against EMS madara how would it work against rinnegam madra,with preta path to absorb it.
And even with the rinnegan the fact remains that madara still fears hashi.
So it is deductible that hashi is way stronger than muu and onoki.

Here's a list of kages who are stronger than muu and onoki:
1)Hashirama senju
2)Hiruzen sarutobi
3)Minato namizake
4)3rd raikage
5)maybe 4th raikage
6)gaara
and lot many non-kage shinobi.

 

[Killer B]

Minato wrecks both by using this and warping dust release on top of the user.....

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[6pathofpain]

What technique has a Kage used that is stronger, and can defend against Dust Release/

Minato will never get touched by it for obvious reasons. Neither the 3rd or 4th raikage will ever get caught in it cause there to fast. The 1st may get caught in it but lest be honest. Muu was sitting on his ass right next to oonoki when madara beat there ass without breaking a sweat or taking them seriously, not saying since madara>Muu an oonoki that 1st is. But if there gonna eat the 1st they should at least stand an chance against madara. An i believe the second master a space time jutsu aswell so he probably wont get caught either. Dont understimate him, an stop overestimating the tsuikages :sy:

 

[Stark]

I do not agree but Muu is ONE of the strongest Kages

 

[Prime Rib]

lmfao we got a troll and a fan.

sorry but there 'one" of the strongest kage, but not the strongest

 

[Rariatto]

Muu and Oonoki were strong. But you can't say they were strongest.
Muu died in battle with Second Mizukage so they were equally strong.
And we don't know who was 1.,2. Raikage, 1. Tsuchikage, 1.,3. Mizukage, 1.,2. Kazekage. What if they were stronger than Muu and Onoki?

 

[Rikodu senin madara]

In this case actually,a>b>c logic does apply. Imagine kishi draw hashi bleading and half-dead at the hands of muu and onoki,who madara raped with ease.u cant say hashi's only abilities are mokuton,bijuu control and healing. Even kakashi has copied 1000jutsus and ur sayin hashi,the most powerful shinobi of his era(while muu/onoki were alive)whose clan was known to have 1000 skills has ONLY 3 ABILITIES? Its either ur trolling or u dont read.

 

[DeathByHugs]

Don't tell me... next thread will be Kisame > Muu? <3

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Imagine kishi draw hashi bleading and half-dead at the hands of muu and onoki,who madara raped with ease

he didnt rape muu with ease. he didnt even fight him. and neither muu nor onoki were at their primes. hashirama lived probably quite long after VOTE, and probably fought muu in 1st shinobi world war

Even kakashi has copied 1000jutsus

probs cos he has a magic eye that enables him to do that.

Muu was sitting on his ass right next to oonoki when madara beat there ass without breaking a sweat or taking them seriously, not saying since madara>Muu

show me a panel of muu using an ability that would suggest he was on the level at when he died. show me a panle of muu being hurt by madara

Muu died in battle with Second Mizukage so they were equally strong.

that doesnt mean they were equal by a long shot. we dont know what happened in that fight. maybe mizukage got trashed and decided to blow himself up

1)It takes time to create the three-dimensional object,as evident from below:

onokis never shown to have taken a long time to do anything regarding dust release

Here's a list of kages who are stronger than muu and onoki:
1)Hashirama senju
2)Hiruzen sarutobi
3)Minato namizake
4)3rd raikage
5)maybe 4th raikage
6)gaara

no none of them would win besides maybe gaara cos he can fly and restrain onokis arms

Muu died to 2nd Mizukage.

his rival for many years who probably knew everything about him

Madara rofl stomped both Muu and Onoki.

how do you know muu was at the power he was as when he fought the mizukage? and onoki was literally a small child

Mu does not beat Hashi

hashi cant see him, cant hit him and is too slow

Wasnt that Muu sitting on his ass next oonoki on his ass after madara kicked there ass an madara hadnt broken a sweat.

how do you know muu was at the power that he was later in life? at the time he wasnt even tsuchikage.

But Muu didnt even stand a chance against Madara

and now he does

The 5 kage represent the strongest of their generation....Edo Madara is beating them with ease

probably because hes a zombie fused with hashirama

I am sure Hashi is far stronger than Onoki and Mu together. Madara thought they were a joke BUT he admired Hashirama and admitted he could only lose to Hashirama.

madara retreated from the world long before muu ascended to hokage and gained dust release

He defeated EMS Madara, meaning he had a counter for ANY and ALL of EMS techs

or he just used kyuubi who he had just taken control of

So i think it is more than fair to say that he can own pretty much anyone other than SO6P.

no it isnt fair at all

hasirama is the strongest kage of all time

how can he beat 4th mizukage?

S Madara soloed BOTH of them AND he was merely toying with them, he wasn't even fighting seriously.I don't think this is a serious thread.

how do you know muu was serious too? maybe he didnt want to hurt his ally from konoha

Madara went easy on oonoki and muu and fought both o them at the same time and destroyed them... which still strikes fear in oonoki,

onoki was a little kid. if you were a little nerd and you had a bully beat you to near death, youd be afraid of him even later in life. also for the last time, MUU WASNT FULL POWER. many years passed between that fight and muus death

Hashirama destroyed full power EMS madara

no he didnt. how do you know madara was full power?

there most powerful attack (dust release)

is not their ONLY attack

Kishi wants Hashirama to be the strongest, so he's the strongest.

kishi is presenting character opinions. kakashi and 4th raikage have theirs. iruka has his

hiruzen strongest kage support by the manga

what in part 2 supports that?

 

[ChiefHermit]

kishi is the strongest kage of all time