Muu or Oonoki are the strongest Kages ever.

[Koibito]

Fail. If Mu was one of the strongest Kages, how comes he died battling Second Mizukage.

Lol got a point

 

[Black Adam]

Muu and Oonoki are the strongest Kages of all time, besting Hashirama, Hiruzen and the 3rd Raikage.

Dust release and a convenient flying ability matched with superb doton puts them above the rest

Mokuton is childs play to Dust Release. Same goes for the 3rds lightning shield or w.e

Agree, or disagree?​

What is with you this week Nikes?!


I don't mean to derail the thread but another one of these threads again?! ::sighs::

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[GreenV]

Well Jinton > Wood Release if you think about it.

But Hashirama's wood release is on another scale, the scale is huge.

Kishi wants Hashirama to be the strongest, so he's the strongest.

If Kishi wanted Tenten to be strongest then she is the strongest no matter abilities she has.

 

[6pathofpain]

Muu and Oonoki are the strongest Kages of all time, besting Hashirama, Hiruzen and the 3rd Raikage.

Dust release and a convenient flying ability matched with superb doton puts them above the rest

Mokuton is childs play to Dust Release. Same goes for the 3rds lightning shield or w.e

Agree, or disagree?​

niether can beat minato, there most powerful attack (dust release) will be useless against him. Muu's lack of detection will make him more difficult but he wont win...

 

[Xyrho]

Thanks bro, I appreciate it

Name Change??

 

[Kuriboh]

Madara went easy on oonoki and muu and fought both o them at the same time and destroyed them... which still strikes fear in oonoki, that was EMS madara... Hashirama destroyed full power EMS madara... and you are saying hashi is weaker than them?

usually i think A>B>C is BS but in this case its obvious

 

[juankimari]

Have you forgotten EMS Madara soloed those two, EMS Madara..

EMS Madara soloed BOTH of them AND he was merely toying with them, he wasn't even fighting seriously.I don't think this is a serious thread.

 

[Xgang uchiha]

hasirama is the strongest kage of all time

 

[Kakashi9991]

Mu could definitely beat Hashi.. with Mid difficulty. Hashi has nothing to stop dust release.

Look past the hype dude.

And get another dudes face off your sig and avatar... :|

First of all, unless you have hidden background about Hashi that nobody knows about, you cannot assume he has nothing to stop dust release. There could be techniques that he knows how to use from the Uzumaki clan. Second, you saw in the manga how Madara crushed Oonoki mentally. And he stated he wasn't even going hard (when Oonoki was young). I believe Muu was there and am sure didn't make a difference. Therefore, since Hashi st that time > than Madara, then there is a tremendously good chance Hashi > Muu or Oonoki. Could be by battle experience, seal techniques or tailed beast control. It was stated by many that Hashi and Madara were beasts and probably the strongest or strongest for a fact. Now Hashi died during war time, maybe during a battle. Just because they are powerful doesnt mean they cannot die in battle. Anything could happen in war. Like third raikage dying during war after three days of non stop battling. Gaara beat the second mizukage while protecting others too. As far I am concern Muu and the second pretty much died together during their battle. Sooo, I think I make my point clear. Odds are Hashi could beat them.

 

[juankimari]

I am sure Hashi is far stronger than Onoki and Mu together. Madara thought they were a joke BUT he admired Hashirama and admitted he could only lose to Hashirama.

To say Hashirama has nothing to counter dust release is wrong on so many levels.The man was the leader of the Senju clan --a.k.a The clan of 1000 skills-- A thousand seems a lot you think wood release was his only weapon?We have seen only a small fraction of his full power.

He defeated EMS Madara, meaning he had a counter for ANY and ALL of EMS techs(1000 skill remember?).So i think it is more than fair to say that he can own pretty much anyone other than SO6P.

 

[NinetailFox225]

So this a example of fan boyish really , u say the muz was a bad match up but when do u have a good one when ur a kage u must be prepared like hashi was with da 9 tails , are the 3rd rakiage with the 8 tails r the 10,000 soldiers lol really muu onki

 

[LolaxXx]

EDO MADARA has also been dead for some what years. He doesn't know the power of these new Ninjas.

Madara has been dead and he doesn't know any of the newer generations. Really should think for yourself..



Muu and Oonoki are MORE POWERFUL than HASHI.

Dust Release is the strongest attack ANY of the KAGE have.

Mokuton is really convenient and powerful but not stronger than Dust Release.

The 5 kage represent the strongest of their generation....Edo Madara is beating them with ease. dosent matter whether he knows their power or not, APPARENTLY. And With knowledge of Rinnigan and its powers, plus having hashirama's power, And his own EMS, Madara still believes hashi can beat him. face it

 

[Nikes]

The 5 kage represent the strongest of their generation....Edo Madara is beating them with ease. dosent matter whether he knows their power or not, APPARENTLY. And With knowledge of Rinnigan and its powers, plus having hashirama's power, And his own EMS, Madara still believes hashi can beat him. face it

Get out more.

 

[immortal sage]

Even if you say muu and mizukage was a bad matchup it doesnt matter because they both still killed each other and to be the best kage means that all other kage are weaker than you

 

[LolaxXx]

Get out more.

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oonoki and muu, not best kage

 

[Black Adam]

First of all, unless you have hidden background about Hashi that nobody knows about, you cannot assume he has nothing to stop dust release. There could be techniques that he knows how to use from the Uzumaki clan. Second, you saw in the manga how Madara crushed Oonoki mentally. And he stated he wasn't even going hard (when Oonoki was young). I believe Muu was there and am sure didn't make a difference. Therefore, since Hashi st that time > than Madara, then there is a tremendously good chance Hashi > Muu or Oonoki. Could be by battle experience, seal techniques or tailed beast control. It was stated by many that Hashi and Madara were beasts and probably the strongest or strongest for a fact. Now Hashi died during war time, maybe during a battle. Just because they are powerful doesnt mean they cannot die in battle. Anything could happen in war. Like third raikage dying during war after three days of non stop battling. Gaara beat the second mizukage while protecting others too. As far I am concern Muu and the second pretty much died together during their battle. Sooo, I think I make my point clear. Odds are Hashi could beat them.

This^^
Ok let's not include the fact that we've seen way more instances for Oonoki to display his skills in combat the Senju clan was feared as the clan with a thousand skills....so is it really beyond the realm of imagination that Hashi could've cook something up to fight Oonoki or Muu on equal footing?...is it?!

 

[6pathofpain]

Get out more.

Where did all these muu fans even come from? Wasnt that Muu sitting on his ass next oonoki on his ass after madara kicked there ass an madara hadnt broken a sweat. Im not sain cause Madara>Muu that Muu is weak. But Muu didnt even stand a chance against Madara. Now im not saying since The 1st>Madara that The 1st>Muu. But i am saying if i or anyone is to believe that Muu is even close to being stronger than The 1st he should at least give madara a good fight

 

[XxOUTZxX]

I agree dust release is most destructive among all KAGES' techniques we seen or heard of, but Mu does not beat Hashi

 

[Nikes]

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oonoki and muu, not best kage

You're right

They are the strongest.

 

[6pathofpain]

You're right

They are the strongest.

you cant believe that...